Does anyone have any idea about the possible colors of this Barney Oldfield Fiat adn the lettering on it. This photo is from the 1913? Santa Monica Road Race. It has been suggested the Fiat color is green... but I've also heard that the beer company Maier Brewery also used green in those days... could not be green on green... the Select Beer also used red... red on green would look good. Anyone?
Harry, i'm pretty sure I have read an article describing Ralph De Palma's crash in the Mercedes at the 1912 American Grand Prize and being overtaken by the big green Fiat S74 driven by Oldfield. I just can't remember where i saw it. The Maier Brewing Company colors of 1935 were green background with red on beige lettering.
Thanks guys.. LOVE the HAMB. The brewing company seems to have had ALL sorts of colors in the early years... I've seen white cans with red lettering, white with green, green with silver... they were all over the place... this site has LOTS of pics of the cans / labels but I can not finds any reference to SELECT KID... http://www.ebeercans.com/Maier-Select-Beer/856/ So far the green Fiat seems right... guess we'll look for a complimentary color for the lettering.
LOL - I wish! That would be amazing. No in fact I am making a documentary film on race history in Los Angeles and I am having different artists (kindly donating time) creating poster art. One of them is working on something based on the Santa Monica Road Races which featured the above car & Barney. The artists site: http://www.car-a-day.blogspot.com/ More about the film: www.wheretheyraced.com
If you haven't ask there yet, ask on the auto racing 1894-1944 thread. There's a pretty dedicated group that follows that thread. Please keep us informed about your film.
There are photos here: if you want to try to get the,-not sure what you will find, though. http://btjunkie.org/torrent/1910-am.../30708b55572da26ca67e72c6addf300b938bf815b289
Will do. There is a thread on the film here: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548965 I'll update there.
Trying to download the file now... looks like a TREASURE TROVE - even if they are all blk & wht not much help for figuring out the colors... I'm not really torrent savvy... the download seems to keep crashing - any tips? Do you have the file? maybe you can FTP it to me? or yousendit.com do you have other links to giant folders full of cool old pics? Thanks - I'll keep trying.
I own the Ex. Teddy Tetzlaff S-74. I only know of early F.I.A.T.s racing in dark red. When I restored the car there was blood red paint all over the cracks and rivets of the chassis. My car is green, because when it was re-engined for the 1915 race season it was painted "Italian Racing Green" by Bert Dingley, at least thats what the papers called it. The Oldfield car was the same one he drove at the Milwaukee race. Bruce Brown was killed in practice in a different car.<O></O>
Nice! Thanks for the info. What state is Teddy's car in? Do you know its full history - ie where & when it raced? Do you have photos / films? Love to talk.