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  1. 33-Chevy
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    The first paved street of this type in the U.S.A. exists in Portland, Oregon and is called "Macadam Avenue".
     
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    That's keen! Any idea what year the street was done by those city fathers and what type of pavement it replaced?
     
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    "Biddle Motor Car Company

    Open from 1882-1930, Biddle started with making complete cars. They ended just making the outer bodies of cars. They were master's of making sleek designs and many of their contracts were with the Hudson Motor Company.They were based in Amesbury, Massachusetts."

    http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Ghosts-of-Autos-Past

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    "A Biddle advertisement, appearing in Life Magazine in 1917 confirms that the car was ‘assembled’ from parts produced by others, including a top-quality Duesenberg motor, and that it reflected European styling. The roadster shown in the ad closely resembles a contemporaneous Mercedes Benz sport model, with its deeply V-ed radiator, cycle fenders, wire wheels and step plates. From its dramatic prow, the long hood-line sweeps back to a raked windshield spanning an aeronautical cowl, then drops to the rakish line of its cut-down doors and finally flows into a streamlined tail."

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    http://realclassicads.com/carads/biddle.html
     
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    1925 FLA

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    Undated photo. Early rail car?
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    President Hoover 1929

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    Anyone else got photos of the insides of old garages? Thanx, Gary
     
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    Fascinating photograph! The early tyre changer; tyre buffing machine; water trough for puncture detection; vulcanising machine; photo of Lincoln on the wall ( why?); what we would call a typical American wall clock; the poor english in that are the tubes sold after 30 days or after repair??; that the price of petrol ( gas ) obviously fluctuates daily and it's priced in cents! ( petrol here in the UK is around £1.30 a LITRE! - you guys over there don't know you're born!)....and what does the sign LADIES relate to?
     
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    MrFire, I enjoyed the material you posted in #6761, especially the sales piece showing a real Biddle, made in Philadelphia. I have had a ton of trouble finding a verifiable photo or artist's rendering of a Biddle, so this is great.

    But the photo shown first is a source of confusion for me -- and, I get the impression, for a lot of people. I don't think it's the Biddle marque; I believe it is a Hudson with a body built by the house of Biddle & Smart of Amesbury, Massachusetts. B&S built auto bodies for a number of companies, including some very, very fancy ones.

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    Hudson?

    This photo has appeared a number of places on the 'net, identified as a Biddle. But the Hudson radiator emblem seems to say Hudson. So I think maybe folks have misidentified this car. Hudson was, for many years, Biddle & Smart's biggest customer. When Hudson rather suddenly began making its own bodies in Detroit (instead of having them shipped by rail all the way from Amesbury) Biddle & Smart collapsed in 1930.

    American-Automobiles.com indicates that the Biddle Motor Car Co. operated in Philadelphia, PA, 1915-1923. Coachbuilt.com puts the coachbuilder Biddle & Smart in Amesbury, MA, operating 1882-1930. I don't know that there was any association between thee two companies, other than sharing a name within the context of their corporate names.

    So, for me, that's a mystery. And last week, we touched upon the related mystery as to whether there was some link between the Biddle and the Argonne makes. We had a car that different folks seem to have ID'd either as a Biddle or as an Argonne. I still don't know the definitive answer, especially since both cars used Falls and Duesenberg fours.

    Maybe someone in HAMBland is familiar with details than can resolve one or both of the mysteries. So far, I surely haven't -- LOL!
     
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    LOOK! A Buffalo wire wheel for a Model T Ford speedster or race car!!!!!!!!!![​IMG]
     
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    The MERCER Raceabout people will not be happy seeing this. [​IMG]
     
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    The Stanley Hotel in Estes Park was owned by the Stanley Bros. They used their steamers to pick up guests at the train station in Loveland and transport them to the hotel.
     
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    Yes, the Stanley Mountain Wagon got its start there, the 30HP 12-15 passenger station wagon of the time.
     
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    I don't know much more. It could be a Biddle or a Hudson or a Biddle&Smart.
    As you say, there is someone in HAMBland who probably has the answer. :).

    http://www.electronic.districsides.com/early-american-automobiles-amesbury-body-makers

    <TABLE border=1 width="87%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="16%"></TD><TD width="73%">

    <BIG><BIG><BIG>Early American Automobiles</BIG></BIG></BIG>
    <BIG><BIG>Amesbury, Massachusetts Body Builders</BIG></BIG>
    <BIG>The most definitive history of automobiles and bodies built in Amesbury with photos and a short history each builder</BIG>​
    From 1895 to 1932, Amesbury had the most body manufacturers than any city in America. The quantity and quality was recognized world wide, just as their carriage building. Frank and Charles Duryea of Chicopee, MA are recognized as making the first successful gasoline driven automobile in the United States in 1893. In 1895, they were ready to place their car into production. They called on an old friend John Currier, a partner of Currier, Cameron, & Co. Carriage Company to build the bodies for the first production car in America. Currier, Cameron, & Co. continued building Duryea bodies throughout their existence. In the meantime, they also built some Duryea chaisses.
    From 1896 to 1912, Currier, Cameron, & Co. Carriage Company made bodies for more automobiles than any other body maker in the world, including Fisher Body of Detroit. A very big statement for such a small company. At least seventy-five were counted during the research for this web site.
    This was the beginning of the body building industry in Amesbury that lasted until 1932 when Walker had to stop making bodies for the Franklin automobile. During this time, there were at least thirty Amesbury manufacturers who were making bodies and at least twenty companies that were making parts.
    Not until the early 1920's, the body builder was able to have the name on the body of the automobile. Not until 1923 would Hudson Automobile Company reveal that Biddle and Smart made their bodies and then after being questioned from their dealers. This being the case, unless records were kept by the builder, there was no way one would be able to identify the body builder. There were a very few exceptions to this. A lot of research that has been done to publish this page came from such company records published in books and on the internet. There was tremendous amount of information that has been gathered that had never been recorded anywhere. Luckily, after spending one year and going through thousands of web sites, reading hundreds of digitized automobile related material, some several times, and following every lead that was available was this information put together. Every bit has been carefully verified before being written. Because of the internet, information has been found that was impossible to find before. Nothing is written in stone​
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    http://www.electronic.districsides....arlyamericanautomobiles.com/amesburyautos.htm

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    I'll just post the link to a couple of articles in photo form:

    http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/1764757-0-1200.jpg

    http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/1764758-0-1200.jpg

    http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/06/page/3/

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    http://www.amesburycity.com/
     
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