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Its Mine if I Want It...But What Is It???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Slick Willy, May 10, 2010.

  1. Slick Willy
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    :D:D Soooo...I finally get the wake up call we all dream of..."Hey, Willy, Im rehabbing my mothers basement and I got this gangster car body i gotta get outta here! I think its a ford but Im not sure...If you want it, take it!!"
    Well, I went and took a look...it isnt a ford (at least not one ive seen) and its in decent shape for being under a barn for decades. So i agreed to save it from the demise of a sawzall and I will be bringing it home later but now for the fun part!!
    What the heck is this??
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  2. Greezy
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    Sorry but that looks like patch material for another project.
     
  3. Slick Willy
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    Weeellll...in New England if its that old and still here its a "complete" vehicle!!:D:rolleyes::D
     

  4. jimbobb
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    from Oakdale Mn

    So one made a pick-up so want you got is the leftovers. Look around the farm for the rest of it. The frame may now be a haywagon.
     
  5. F&J
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    Willy; take a look up inside the front windshield header where a normal car has a rear view mirror.... there should be an aftermarket body builder tag right in the center.

    What your "cellar find" is... a "California hardtop" conversion for a touring car IMO

    Also called an All Weather Top.

    Very rarely ever seen. One popular maker was REX C-Dan also REX Auto Top.

    It would have had side curtains stored up inside the headliner for summer rains. They also came with winter door tops/windows made of wood. Maybe those are around the cellar?
     
  6. Slick Willy
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    nope the frame was wood and is now back in the earth...
     
  7. Squablow
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    Those curved pillars are wild looking. I want to see it outside in some clear pictures. Is there a firewall/cowl or is it just the back panel?
     
  8. smarg
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    The question is what was it.
     
  9. Slick Willy
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    I didnt see a tag but i will look again, there was some sort of mirror mount there. the header rail is wood with a metal lower wrap on it. but it appears that its all "one piece"...doesnt seem like an add-on top, Would the coach maker go the extra mile to make it like that?
    Also the building was a funeral home at the turn of the century and this could be left from then...mourning limo, perhaps??
     
  10. snelson57
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    Dont know what it is...

    Could make an interesting start to an extended cab pickup, though.
     
  11. pasadenahotrod
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    That IS what it is! Only one I've ever seen in person was a mid-20s Studebaker Phaeton(Touring Car) with a California Top at an estate auction at a funeral home in Campwood TX. Neat piece, find the rest of the toruing car or get another one but don't lose that top!
     
  12. Slick Willy
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    Sorry bout the pics...cell phone, in a cellar...just the rear panel and roof and rear fenders
     
  13. F&J
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    The inside pic you put up shows typical Touring car framing in the lower body. The back window is a ringer for a Rex top I had.

    But you are probably right about it being a fancy funeral conversion. Those top conversions were spendy.
     
  14. F&J
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    some pics of a REX top insides; shows the compartment for summer curtains in the headliner.

    and a pic of what the winter doors and front looked like.....
     

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  15. Moondog13
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    I don't know what it is, but I'd be looking for a touring body to throw that kick ass roof on!!!

    I'll be watching this!!! :D
     
  16. F&J
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    ..another REX but made for a big roadster. Look and compare the back window shape to yours
     

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  17. Heo
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    Thats the subframe for the body
    under that there was a steelframe
    no car that size and age had a wood-
    frame and that have been a big car
     
  18. Slick Willy
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    Ahh, very true! There is nothing else there visible short of an archaeological expedition!!
     
  19. Franklins had a wood frame.
     
  20. dmw56
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    Ever hear of a Franklin?
     
  21. F&J
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    Hey...it was a funeral home...the diggin' in the cellar may turn up something else..:eek:
     
  22. junk yard kid
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    id probably dig around in there
     
  23. With reference to the comment about wood frames, I just found this on the HH Franklin Owners Club web site.
    1925 - 1929 DeCausse Styled Hood

    Mid 1925-26 11A 21" tires, round headlight bar
    1927 11B 20" tires, flat headlight bar
    1928 12A 4 wheel brakes, some fender mirrors, rounded corners on hood front
    1928 12B Like 12A, longer wheelbase cars have steel frame
    1929 13 Most have Ryan lights, vertical hood louvers, all cars have steel frame.
    Beginning of deluxe series cars
     
  24. dmw56
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    Yes, but until 1928 most had wood frames.
     
  25. Heo
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    Then if that car had a wooden frame the mystery is solved
     
  26. kookee
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    F&J looks like he nailed it. Looks like a touring body with a custom top. As for the make, there are much more knowledgable folks here than me.

    My only question is, did you get it yet? If nothing else, that would make a really neat template for the top. Although, that rear section doesn't look to be in bad shape.
     
  27. redlinetoys
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    from Midwest

    This started out as just an oddball back half body that someone had hacked off of something, but possibly is ending up as a rare accessory. More than interesting. I am staying tuned.
     
  28. My book shows a 25 Studebaker Duplex as being very close to that design.
     
  29. Here is one....
     

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