***read this before importing cars to australia***

well we have a work around....Why yes it's ALL stock...just like it came from the factory...see....

 

That really sucks , it benefits who ??? it's a crock of shit & more proof of government gone mad , I really hope you guys get this sorted out .Good luck I think you are going to need it.

 

I was reading all the misspells in the refusal letter from the public office and I think I know who is responsible,,,
The KO Kippers wrote and enforce the reg!
Earlier in the movie they said they promised their mum on her deathbed they wouldn't fight with each other.
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this is shitty news, especailly when our hobby in the tradtional sense is blossoming and our au dollar for u.s dollar matching is at its highest in years. keep us all in the loop Ryan. - Rhys

 

That truly is a pisser ! Highly unfortunate ! Has importing the vehicals been on the rise and they decided to stop or causing you all to pay even more taxes! Or are the driving laws similiar to california? Like our e.p.a. ?

 

No basis in sense, fu#*in' idiots! It's not like were all trying to pass off a 'glass car with no component more than two years old as a '32 model (or what ever).

 

asrf are against imports,and real hotrods,they said it! 100% if its not billet and shiney ya cant have it,apparentley.anyway whos going to be the judge when the container is busted open and say yer l think thats modified????????
Dutch Pete

yer and they can bash it up there arse too

 

Sounds like you guys need to organise and fight this kind of nonsense. I remember hearing that Sweden had some kind of similar law back in the 1970s relating to imports of modified vehicles.

When NZ brought in its original rules for LHD permits back in the 1980s it took into account the needs of car enthusiasts and had a 20-year rule that allowed the sale of a car that age or older to be sold without a RHD conversion.

Since then we've got a Low Volume Vehicle certification programme that looks very straightforward - Amaverick is right when he suggests you look at what we've done over here, successfully.

I can only wish you the best of luck in fighting the legislation.

 

I'm not up with all the Aussie regs, I'm wondering (might sound stupid) is there any problem if the car is modified and has been converted to right hand drive?
I'd like to build something different I was thinking rhd which would be different but legal here and allow it to be legal there. maybe when it's done I could swap for a falcon 351c (or 460 ) xbgt to fix up like a John Goss special which is my dream car (second to my 71 firebird) I like the Goss special more than the Mad Max version most people think of.

 

I am keeping a close eye on all this as im heading over in August. I am not intending to buy a car but you never know. If this shit is still going on i will not be buying and risk not being able to import it. Keep us imformed Ryan and let us know if we can help.

 

Here's the link to the LVVTA
http://lvvta.org.nz/
Scotty

 

Over this bullshit nanny state mentality.....problem I feel is that in time, wherever you go, its gonna be the same.

You'd think we have enough probs in this country to contend with without some new laws to regulate what are generally LAW ABIDING people. I can't help but feel this stinks more of the beginnings of a push to get us off the road - you read it here first. And you guys Stateside, don't think it's not gonna affect you, where theres a buck to be made you can bet these pricks will have a hand in it.

Crims have more rights in this country than we do....enough's enough.

I wrote a nice letter to the minister....not that it'll do much good. But hey, I exercised my "democratic" right to protest over the changes. Kinda like when Howie brought in the new gun laws, right?

Our country is being run by neo socialist obesessed, politically correctness fueled, nanny state mentality, revenue driven asshole bureacrats who are selling us OUT, ....I for one have had enough.

Rant over.

Rat

 

When you find that country, can you let us know? I want to be there too.

-KK

 

Sounds like a return to the good old days when cars had to come here in CKD form!! It is completely arbitrary for them to say that the cars cannot be imported in a modified state yet can be modified legally once here. Even a modified hot rod is still able to be registered as the original production year!

The issue demonstrates the fact that rodders are completely voiceless when it comes to Canberra. A lot of work has been put in to developing national street rod guidelines -has there ever been any propper dialogue on this issue with dotars?

The worst part of this mess is that these "Laws" are not even passed by Parliament! They are just Rules made up by the department- makes intervention to change them even harder.

Is writing to my local MP the best idea or is it best to write to the relevant roads minister?

Adam F

 

thats bad news.off topic in tas some ass wipe has floated a .15 pedestrian limit
its only gunna get worse.

 

Someone really pissed off DOTARs for finally enforcing regulations that had been in force for a number of years. All it takes is one jerkoff to spoil it for the rest of us.

 

Strength in numbers guys!!
Lets all get behind Ryan and try and acheive a positive result for OUR sport-hobby.
Does anyone out there have any idea how we could maybe start our own sanctioned body to give us some kind of voice?
If we can get some thing started,I would be more than happy to be involved!

We cannot let this happen guys and gals!!
El-Richo.

 

talk to these guys, hopefully someone can help.

http://www.the-ace.org.uk/


same the world over unfortunatly !


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its not quite that easy, read technical bulletin 33, and you can only have one category A left hand drive permit in a two year period, it only aplies to coupes convertables and sedans, wagons and pic ups/ ute have to be converted to rhd

 

thats funny as.... but a reminder of how many stupid people there out there

 

Have a friend in the process of selling a highly modified
pulling tractor to Australia, already has a deposit. Anyone
have a opinion, would this be a problem?

 

possibly. He will find out soon, if it's not allowed he won't even get approval to ship it. -Ryan Ford

 

Yes, were trying to do something about it.

The NCC approved an action plan a couple of weeks ago, and authorised the ACT DC to run with it (since we are local) ...so I guess that puts my TAC head and I in the hot seats

We have been into the department for an initial meeting, and now have a much better picture of what is motivating them.

I have details of a handfull of cars caught up in this, but NEED other people having dramas to contact me.

We have a few of the importers fired up, and they are starting a paralel campaign.

We have strategies in place that will help people with cars caught on the wharf, and a few cars have already been freed up.....so talk to me before giving up and shipping them back out....especially if you are beeing hit with demurage costs

I can also provide some ideas on how to proceed if you have a car caught up in a holding yard stateside, or already on the water.

My details are on the ASRF website, or pm me here

Mark Saunders
ACT State Director
Australian Street Rod Federation

 

Please correct me if i am wrong, but i don't really understand the point of this.

Even if a car is imported in modified condition it can't be driven on the road until it is inspected and approved for registration. So safety is not a concern.

If a car is imported in original condition it still has to pass the same inspections. It's not like people are buying cars from the states or where-ever and driving them straight off the boat to menace society.

I recently imported 2 cars in un-restored original condition and had to pay taxes on the value of the car. If the car is modified the value would be significantly higher, so it seems to me all they are doing is missing out on a lot of tax $$.

What concerns me is if they reject import approval for modified cars what is stopping them from saying "This is all getting to hard, no imported vehicles at all"

 

THIS HAPPENED OVERNIGHT WITH NO NOTICE WHEN GUYS HAD CARS ON THE WATER! UPON ARRIVAL WERE HELD IN STORAGE COSTING THOUSANDS
AND THEN REJECTED. TWO OPTIONS WERE GIVEN, THE CRUSHER OR SHIPPED BACK ALL AT THE OWNERS COST. NOW WHO'S GOING TO GET BEHIND A CLASS ACTION AGAINST THIS!! PM ME IF YOUR ON BOARD.- RYAN FORD[/QUOTE]

Really?

A government dept. cannot act arbitarily, if the importers of vehicles had Dotars approval to import, then that Import Approval Document is valid and cannot be invalidated unless a serious breach of the documents conditions has been reported.

In rescinding a permit the dept. must have regard to the consequences for the importer and the Dept. The dept. must advise the importer at the earliest opportunity of the dept's intensions, in order that the importer may take the necessary actions to avoid potential loss or inconveniance to the importer.

The importers have a case to take to the Administrate Appeals Tribunal.
If any of the importers need more info on how to proceed, just PM me.

Don't be intimidated, you have a powerful case, and above all you have rights in law. A dept. cannot act arbitralily, they must follow procedures and guidelines, if they act outside of these the Tribunal will take action to remedy the situation.

Let's hear from some of the guys who were affected, anyone know who they are?

 

THIS HAPPENED OVERNIGHT WITH NO NOTICE WHEN GUYS HAD CARS ON THE WATER! UPON ARRIVAL WERE HELD IN STORAGE COSTING THOUSANDS
AND THEN REJECTED. TWO OPTIONS WERE GIVEN, THE CRUSHER OR SHIPPED BACK ALL AT THE OWNERS COST. NOW WHO'S GOING TO GET BEHIND A CLASS ACTION AGAINST THIS!! PM ME IF YOUR ON BOARD.- RYAN FORD[/QUOTE]

Really?

A government dept. cannot act arbitarily, if the importers of vehicles had Dotars approval to import, then that Import Approval Document is valid and cannot be invalidated unless a serious breach of the documents conditions has been reported.

In rescinding a permit the dept. must have regard to the consequences for the importer and the Dept. The dept. must advise the importer at the earliest opportunity of the dept's intensions, in order that the importer may take the necessary actions to avoid potential loss or inconveniance to the importer.

The importers have a case to take to the Administrate Appeals Tribunal.
If any of the importers need more info on how to proceed, just PM me.

Don't be intimidated, you have a powerful case, and above all you have rights in law. A dept. cannot act arbitralily, they must follow procedures and guidelines, if they act outside of these the Tribunal will take action to remedy the situation.

Let's hear from some of the guys who were affected, anyone know who they are?

 

Phil Hart was caught out when they landed, last i heard he was going them on grounds of no notice. -Ryan Ford

 

me either but I did hear rumblings about fiberglass/repro cars being sneaked in as real (you know what I mean) spose someone got a bee in their bonnett.... but it is pretty dumb, bring in whatever you like cause you wont get it on the road unless its can pass engineering/rego anyways and if its for competition use only it just seems really dull.
So I suppose seeing as the ASRF is on the case youll all step up and back them?
Roger