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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. Bucksnort
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  2. TMcCrea
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    Scotty

    Sorry to hear that you will have to part with the car. I know how you feel after having sold the Wheatley Brother's '55 SD. Hopefully it will find a good home and be correctly restored.
     
  3. Paul Ceasrine
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    Paul here,
    Just joined this great site.
    Great stuff from the 60's and 70's.
    Truly 'Unbelievable'..
    My background, raced with my father at Dover Drag Strip, New York.
    68' thru 75'.
    Followed the likes of Lou and Tony Centolanza, Charlie Castaldo and
    Joe 'Trick Tank' Kenney.
    Of course we hit, New York National Speedway, Lebanon Valley,
    Connecticut Dragway, Maple Grove, Island and Englishtown.
    Lots of stuff to add, and post.
    Paul,,,
     
  4. Interior is all done! Just missing the tachometer still, but I'm on it...

    -Dean
     

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  5. WagonKiller
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    See now THATS the spirit of APRIL 1st!

    :cool:
     
  6. WagonKiller
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    Dude your KILLIN me ! NICE!

    what type of tach would these of had?

    :cool:
     
  7. 57maddman
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    Let me know what the price is for Tokyo Rose I have been gathering parts to build a delivery but still need a decent body...... Thanks, Maddman
     
  8. Thanks WagonKiller! They ran a Sun and/or Stewart Warner Tach. The Sun transmitter box is still mounted on the driver's side kick panel. Sometimes they ran both tachs just to get contingency money if they won :D ...I had a lead on some rare Stahl tachometers, but I can't seem to get a hold of the guy.

    Check your pm's too about the Tokyo Rose!

    -Dean
     
  9. Paul Ceasrine
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    340,,,
    That Bill Shrewsberry E/S 340 Dart (Post #5856) is a 68' 'GTS' car.
    Besides the 68' Winternationals, I think that car also made it to the Hot Rod Magazine Drags at Riverside, California in March 68'. After that???

    The 'Car Craft' giveaway car (Post #5869) is a 69' 340 Dart 'Swinger'.
    It did run at the 69' NHRA Winternationals, in F/S.
    My mother filled out a 'Car Craft' entry blank...They never called!!

    Paul
     
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  10. P426
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    Paul,

    Hello and welcome to this forum! I've been following the Original hemi dart information thread over at that 'other' forum, that's how I know who you are!

    Best regards,

    Pete

    http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=13002
     
  11. P426
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    Ditto!

    Pete :)
     
  12. Paul Ceasrine
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    Pete,
    Thanks,
    I started gathering 68' Hemi data back in August 1968. Right after John Macey parked his 68' Hemi Cuda 'Heads Up' SS/BA next to my fathers 67' 273 Cuda J/S, at the end of the pits at Dover Drag Strip, NY
    As soon as John fired up the Hemi Cuda, the 'bug' hit me.
    You know, the Hemi is a little louder than a 273. OUCH-I-MAMA.
    Thanks again,,I follow your posts also..
    Paul
     
  13. ScottV
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    OK guys I have an opinion question for everyone.

    What would you think of a Junior Stock tribute car. Kinda like you see alot of Stock cars. Maybe one that looks like a Junior Stocker but maybe more modern drivetrain or something a little more driver friendly ???

    The reason I ask it that an acquaintance recently bought 1957 Pontiac 2 door sedan, it looks totally stock but has been upgraded underneath with late model disc brakes (power) and has a 1977 Pontiac 400(not the W72) with a TH-200 4R overdrive auto. It is a nice driver, but as he put it "It is dull and needs some pizzazz". My thinking was do a Junior Stocker makeover !

    What do you guys think ???

    Thanks, ScottV
     
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  14. Paul Ceasrine
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    Scott V,
    If you build a Junior Stock 'tribute car'.
    Then you have to put the McKellar #7 or Isky E2 Camshaft in the trunk, just like
    they did 'back-in-the-day', for dealer installation!!!
    Paul
     
  15. ScottV
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    I wouldn't be building it ... but I am encouraging him to !!!

    If I did anything like this it would be a tribute/replica of my great-uncles Buick.
     
  16. X-TECH MAN
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    I guess when you call it a "tribute" car then it should be as close to original as possable. If you want to play then build a "Clone" or "Nostalgia" Jr. stocker and race one of the nostaliga circuts such as the M.A.N.D.R.A. Just dont screw it up like most of the MANDRA cars and put a stupid hood scoop on it when the body style being used never came with one. Try to use wheels from that era (painted or maybe Cragar S/S type wheels. Go for the period correct look. Its a bracket race but that makes it affordable. If its a street ride or dual purpose care then the TH-200 4r is a good choice due to a better grear ratio spread and the approx 69% overdrive over a 700 R4. If you want to use that trans as a race unit it needs some up grading to survive some grunt. The engine modifications are wide open as long as your wallet can stand the strain....lol. Just my 2 cents on this.
     
  17. P426
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    Paul, you were a lucky kid!

    Pete
     
  18. jakethefake
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    the year is 66 or 67. Powder Puff Sunday ,at VARGO DRAGWAY ,about 8 or 10 ladies show,final run pits ANNE WORRELL ,Jacks Wife ,against ,ED BYERS lady,EDS.car is a mid 50"s PONT. JACK"s car a 50 olds 98 ,2dr.fastback.after a big handicap ,ANNE wins her one and only Trophy,she was elated .sorry to say ANNE passed away in 1995.this was over 40 yrs. ago .it is the best i can remember.i hope i did not bore anyone JAKE please excuse the spelling#
     
  19. Simon and Biebel
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    Ed Beyers car was a '56 Pontiac.....we raced at Vargo at least once.......I kind of recall that the track was not flat.....had a dip down at the end or past the end.....made for an odd view from behind the starting line....
     
  20. Paul Ceasrine
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    Pete,
    1968, 12 years old, and working in my fathers West Road Amoco gas station & Performance Center.
    Wouldn't trade that in for a Million Bucks.
    I got to ride in just about every Musclecar ever made.
    Better than any ride at 'Great Adventure':)
    Have a Great Week.
    Paul
     
  21. Tony Janes
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    Here are some pictures for early Pontiac lovers. The earliest is a picture of Alan Mandella's 1955 Pontiac E gas car which was raced at Pomona in 1963. The others are pictures os Alan's 1958 Pontiac wagon which was raced at the 1968 and 1969 Winternationals. There is also a picture of Lindy Lindholm 1956 Pontiac Formula 5 F/SA which was raced on the AHRA circuit ins southern California and Arizona. Lindy ran the same class as my yellow 57 Ford which produced many grudge races.
     

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  22. Bob Bender
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    Thanks Tony they are great pics..............love wagons
     
  23. bob shirley
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    Mecum has a 1957 2 door pontiac going on the block this coming saturday.triple carb'd
    nice car
     
  24. Simon and Biebel
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    Cool pictures Tony.......I was in love with Pontiacs even though we raced a Chevy! I had a '58 Chieftain.....raced it a few times and went in the 14's street driven....

    We had a '58 Pontiac wagon as a tow car for a while and that one was a real boat and burned oil at an alarming rate!

    I had a '67 GTO at one time very similar to one that sold at Mecum's over the past weekend......Damn I wish I had that car back now! Was a beauty and my wife drove it usually but was always hitting curbs with my wide tires and Cragers! I don't wish I had her back...just the car!! LOL
     
  25. 55chieftain
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    Awesome stuff Tony
     
  26. YORK NOSTALGIA REUNION

    We are going to close entry acceptance at the end of April.
    If there is anyone still planning to bring a junior stocker now is the time to enter.

    Dom
     
  27. Can't wait Dom! There's going to be a lot of all-nighters in the garage soon to get this thing ready! :D
    -Dean
     
  28. Paul Ceasrine
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    Not sure of what post # it was.
    But the Chevy Wagon,,'Hatch's All-American' was based right up the street from my fathers shop, on Washington Street, Peekskill, NY.
    An N/SA and O/SA 'dynamo',,,owned by Gary ?? 283/220HP.
    Ran damn near right on the record in 70'/71'.
    A 'Nice Car'
    Paul
     
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  29. P426
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    Paul, I was 10 in 1968 and like you, already into cars. Seems like every service station that you rode past had at least one supercar on its premesis and/or a drag car. To a young kid who just started building model cars the year before, seeing and hearing these full-scale versions of hot rodded cars and brand new supercars was and still is, in retrospect, an indescribable thrill! You had to experience it (and you did).

    Yes indeed, money can not buy all those great memories. I just wish our minds had perfect recollection or a "rewind" button to relive all those great times. :D

    Best regards,

    Pete
     
  30. X-TECH MAN
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    Is that it? No more "Lies and Rumors" to read? Did everyone just die after 308 pages?
     

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