How many of these are left in this condition? This guy approached me at a car show about a year and half ago and said he had the perfect motor for my 58 Plymouth. After that day, he was hard to get a hold of, details he gave me over the phone didn't make sense, like it being a 1954 354 Hemi (which from my research doesn't exist from the factory anyway) etc and on and on. Well, I hung in there talking to him like every four months or so, finally he invited me to come to where he had the motor. Man, was I glad I did. Turns out the reason he had some of the details wrong is that it was his Fathers motor, he and his Father pulled it out of a low mileage, excellent running 1954 Chrysler back in 1982. They covered it up in the garage, his Father had several projects going and would rotate the motor over every once in a while, he has since passed away. This thing appears to be absolutely untouched and never taken apart, and everything is there. Starter, generator, trans, all linkages to the trans, carb, power steering filter, trans cooler etc. From the numbers on the block it is a 1954 331, and the bellhousing is NOT cast into the block. Anyway, just wanted to share with you all, I am pretty excited about this find!!!!!!!!! I plan for this motor to either go into my 58 Plymouth which currently has the factory flat head six, or into a 30/31 model A coupe down the road when I can afford to buy one. Thanks for reading, Buckle
That is cool as hell Persistence pays off, sometimes known as being a pain in the ass. Keep us updated on the progress, I think it would really be tits in the Plymouth. BB
Oil it up and crank it every so often. You may be able to use it as-is without spending any $$$... nice!
Did I just learn something new here? In the last 50 years,I havent ever heard of a 331 without the cast in bellhousing.Or could this actually be a 354?
The '55 & '54 4 bbl (not 54 2 bbl) 331s are short tail blocks. To put it in the Plym you'll need a center sump pan.
I've dropped a '55 331 into my current project, a '60 Plym. Needed a center sump pan & a 30 deg(stock OEM angle) oil filter adaptor, down doesn't work because of the torsion bars. At www.forwardlook.net in thier hot rod section on the second page is a article on putting a 331 into a 55-56 Plym.
The information I found is that mid year 54 bell housings were not cast into the block anymore and that 4 barrel engines made up only 10% of the early Hemis produced. I am no Hemi expert at all, I just know what I found during research and from talking to the older guys that have been into it for a while. I don't believe the 354 came until 1956. Hothemiheads.com has lots of info on early Hemis. I am planning a trip to the Chrysler museum in Auburn Hills sometime soon in hopes of learning more about these early monsters. Buckle
Thanks guys, you guys have seen my Plymouth so you can probably visualize what I am thinking here. I did feel like a bit of a pain, and I started wondering if this would be another disappointment once I finally got over there as he was hard to deal with on the phone and seemed to get angry everytime I questioned deeper about the motor, he wanted a commitment sight unseen. I told him that I am not buying anything that I haven't seen, no offense, but I don't know you kind of thing. It was everything he said it was though, for sure and he took the time to help me strap it down safely, etc. Turns out his Father was a stuntman performing rollovers at fairs and stuff back in the sixties and seventies. I think the early Hemis were his weapon of choice and usually built his stunt cars with one in it. This is one that never got used apparantely. Interesting story from this guy. Buckle That would look great in the Plymouth. Nice score. <!-- / message --> Roadstar
The 4 bl engines went into '54 Imperials & New Yorker Deluxe. The standard New Yorker got the long tail 2 bl engine.
Ok, so you are saying my 54 NY deluxe has a short tail 331, even though the car is an early 54? I will have to look at this. I guess the powerflites of that year ( and late 53) had a short bell housing to fit the long tail 331's, and the short tail 331's used a long bell housing powerflite.
That was Ma Mopar's plan. With Mopar & thier do what the customer wants special orders there is always a possibility of someone ordering a 2 bl engine, or someone dropping one in or doing a mix-n-match later. If it is a OEM 4 bl installation, it is a short tail.
Man, sounds like you know these things pretty good. I've always found the early hemis interesting, thanks for sharing the info! I'm going to look for some reading material on the subject. Buckle
look at scootermcrad's hemi tech index here on on the hamb. also tex smith's hemi book by ron ceridono. forum at www.hothemiheads.com www.thehemi.com
Well I think it's junk, and it's just taking up too much space in your little garage. Who needs such a big ass boat anchor like that sitting around anyway. You might as well let me take it now, so you don't get depressed on all that floor space wasted. I've been thinking about it, since you want to sit on it for a while, you should clean it up like Dearborn Aaron does, not go crazy, but a piece at a time clean it. Something to do over this long cold winter....
My 51 still had crosshatching in the cylinders, no serial #'s, it was a 54 recall replacement block, got it from the original owners nephew
Ooh you lucky ducky! Nice find! Might want to consider a different rear end if ya throw her in the Plymouth. The one designed for that teeny flat six might not hold a hemi. I'm swapping rear ends in the Desoto for the same reason, although I've only got a 318. Congrats on your acquisition!
I wish they were chrome, they are down to the raw metal if you look at the first picture. And no, NY and Imps were same ol' painted valve covers, no chrome to be had! But they sure look good chromed.