Technical Marching forward 1-2-4-3, Banger time...

Link to previous month: Feb 2023 Banger Meet Thread

Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
Stay safe.

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
email: [email protected]
phone: 951-695-7313.

A few links to speed equipment companies there may be more
https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts

Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:
http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
and this link shows the missing image from the above post
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:
http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:
http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

Chevy Banger Stuff
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

New Banger Block in the Works
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/

Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm

 

Been progressing my Burtz build over at my friend Craig’s workshop - RKE, that make the Rotoshim shocks.



Took it home at the weekend and treated it to a dusting of paint.




He’s been a bit busy himself.
A friend of his who normally builds phenomenally quick drag bikes (he has a twin supercharged twin triumph engined bike in build at the moment) was let loose with his polishing mops…





They’ve whittled some mains caps whilst they were at it and Craig is currently building tooling in readiness to line bore the block for shells. Guess I’ll queue up a pair of B blocks behind that one.

 

I pulled the old lump. Now loading the cam in the Burtz. Won't be long.

 

Are those Philidas nuts on the studs? I wished I'd gone that route instead of the supplied castle nuts but there were none in stock around here.

 

Finally made a timing pointer and put a light on it, I am getting 8 to 10 degree advance out of this Mallory dizy... So total advance was 14 to 15... Just seems not enough to me.... Guess I need to send this thing out to get it recurved, I hate to do it cause I normally curve all my own distributors by charts and not a machine but This Mallory uses different springs than my MSD ones etc, and I cant find springs etc...

So what are ya'll running for total timing on a warmed up motor?

 

Hotrodfil, what material did they make the main caps from?

 

Sent Ryan info and photos for the beta testing of his HAMB Auction to include the Zipper.

 

Man that polished crank looks great!

 

First time checking into the banger threads, I just picked up this T with a supposedly rebuilt engine and a bunch of other parts. In looking around quickly it seems that most talk is about A and B motors, does anyone do anything with T motors? I'm not sure what my plans are for this yet, build it up using the T frame, axles, motor, etc. Or I also have enough parts to build an A chassis and just drop the body on that. Either way, it will be a while, I've already got a bunch of other projects that need finishing first. I probably shouldn't have bought it, but it was close to home and the price was right, so why not. I guess I could always flip it if I decide to not build it. Time will tell I suppose.

 

Checking in, not much progress on my banger as of yet.
Working on making some new parts though!

 

By all accounts he used EN16T because he had some, but would have used EN3B if he'd had to buy it...

 

Here!!
just working on SOHC drive stuff.....

J

 

Burtz block Cragar OHV back together and in the Vicky about 150 miles on it....

 

Have you fitted an external filter? Any pictures of that side?

This is the bolt I’ve had made to fit the side cam gear cover. 1/2” UNC, 5/8” hex with a 1/4” BSP female thread and an 8mm reamed hole down the centre to feed the oil gallery.

 

Checking in. I was considering a scat crank for my B motor but with all the posts of broken cranks it has me questioning that idea. Would I be better off having my B crank drilled?

 

Stupid question. Would putting a B cam in an A block with A lifters make things not work correctly?

 

Yes, externally, but I replaced the two rear main studs and the #2 & #4 main studs with Milidon studs and all of the nuts are ARP

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Probably.

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I have not finalized my filter system yet. My plan is to use the same bolt set up you have. I will be incorporating a Scat oil filter bracket with the external pressure bypass. That is my next action item.

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I've done it. It is easier with adjustable lifters. You might also think about putting some spacers under the springs to increase the seat pressure.

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I do have adjustable lifters in it. This is an engine I bought "rebuilt" swapped the cam in, and never got to fire. Working my way backwards to try and figure out what is going on. I think I may pull it down and double check everything and reassemble. Then try and start it with a known good carb and distributor. I kinda think maybe I can't get it spinning fast enough to fire on 6 volt. But I'm not really sure or it would already be running.

 

Similar. I have a Mocal filter bracket that I’m figuring out where to hang. The pressure relief is built into the pump I’ll be testing for RKE. I’m fitting an early sump so I’ll be able to drop it out the bottom when the want to check it over.

 

Thanks. Dave D not that it maters but I like the look of a T better then an A. But I don't fit in a T.

 

Looks like you’ve got a nice collection of As. The truck is probably really nice with the 5 speed.

 

Good looking high rad body there Dave. Better than I started with.
I've been piecing together another '24T roadster for a while. Trying to solve the problem of not fitting by dropping the centre X member I added to pick up the wishbone mount and give me some footroom.

 

Checking in here, nothing to report, though there are a growing number of bangers going together in town!

 

In case you haven't seen an adjustable cam gear and John Neilson's oil pump.

 

My engines have different oil fill tubes. One of them is 1 1/2” in diameter and needs a cap the other is about
2 3/8” in diameter. Are they for different years?
Should I buy a cap or a different fill tube and cap?

 

They look like very nice pieces. I assume the cam gear is used to degree the cam. Do you find the cams are right on? Do you advance the cam a bit?

 

The smaller tube is Model A. The larger is Model B. I have found no advantages to either one.

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