Technical ***January 2023 Banger Meet Thread Another trip around the sun***

Link to previous month: December 2022 Banger Meet Thread

Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
December 25th - Little Saint Nick visits
Stay safe.

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
email: [email protected]
phone: 951-695-7313.

A few links to speed equipment companies there may be more
https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts

Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:
http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
and this link shows the missing image from the above post
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:
http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:
http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

Chevy Banger Stuff
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

New Banger Block in the Works
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/

Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm

 

Time to sober up and get to work.

 

Another new year already.

 

Another Monday.

 

Checking in
Thanks Jiminy
So finished up coop rear
Now need the time to install

 

John,
Is that a ring gear "snubber" on the axle housing? Does that center section not have a pinion shaft support bearing?.

The assembly looks great.



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Slow progress.

 

Hey Dan,

This is a 201 Halibrand (V8) with the straddle mount bearing and yes that is a snubber.
Since these are '35 housings with the smaller bearing the snubber will take some of the load if I get too frisky with it.

Can't wait to get it in and finish the new motor.

Happy New Year All, J

 

Checking in

 

Checking in .........made new head studs and nuts this week for my Thomas head on the B engine -anyone give advice on going "V 8 water pump conversion"? cheers

 

Dan,
Looking good...
I'm back into mine after about 2700 miles (serial #140) the rear main started leaking. I had used a 'Detroit Diesel' silicone seal, not removing the lip spring like the assembly guide recommends... bad idea in my mind.
The seal was leaking at the bottom of the main cap, between the seal and the cap surface. On close inspection you could see where the cutting tool had made an ever so slight impression in the finish cut...I missed it on the initial assembly. It was at 6:00, right at the 'bottom' of the cap. I also did not use any sealant on the seal as I assembled it, as it has the factory coating to do that. I have re-installed a new seal and placed Loctite 5699 sealant on the backside of the seal, and drove it all the way into the back of the bore to form a seal against those surfaces.
I had torn down the engine entirely and the only thing that I noticed was that the main bearing shells were showing copper from wear thru at the tabs....I had critically looked at these on initial assembly and had cleaned them up...but I guess, not aggressively enough. The remainder of the bearing surfaces looked good enough I reused them as is.
You may or may not have the same situation with your engine, but it's a bitch to be pulling it right away for a rear main leak out of a "modern" seal.
Good luck

 

Checking in for the new year

Advice
I ran one previously with a new aluminum head and new radiator. It never overheated without a fan. Wasn’t really a parade car though.
The guy who wrote this article sent it to me a while back. I don’t remember if he posts on here or not.
If you want to run a fan, could be worse options.


I have a V8 pump for my recently acquired B engine.
I plan to use it considering I need a pump and the new leakless model A ones have been out of stock for a long time now.
we’ll see how it goes on my 2nd try.
I’m a long way from running this engine though..

 

I'm here nothing to report.

 

I’m still here, still accumulating parts for a single seater but no actual progress as our house is on the market and the new hip is still a bit green.

 

My latest purchases.

Just need a lhd brake cross-shaft to replace the multi-pieced unit, and its funky clamshell

 

THANK YOU....now I have an idea of whats required I can progress forward .

 

Owner says 9N ford Willy jeep ?And forklift from a US aircraft carrier ? Not that i know but varies from what i expect of either 9N or ford willys jeep. We know over the years stories and information get mixed up. residing in a clark forklift at present. My pick is continental , Did see a 52 Kaiser on the weekend which from memory had the distributor in the head also . .

 

Checking in for a summer of fun, hopefully.

 

@Midnight Rider hey mate, you should show us some of your treasures

 

looks good john

 

Thanks for the info. I'll make sure I address that at assembly.

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Had my town sedan out for 10 days over my Christmas break, I've recently changed from a Stromberg 97 to a late larger 94 from a 272 yblock, I'm quite happy with the results, seems to be better on juice and it's low/part throttle response is way better i don't think it has made any difference power wise though

 

Time for winter projects.......

 

Dennis Gray caught these two shots of our car coming into; and out of the "Corkscrew" at last October's Velocity Invitational, Laguna Seca Raceway.

 

Winter project #1 kohler brothers axle and roto flo shocks.

 

Took mine out for a Boxing Day spin in the cold stuff! It was a blast and ran really well I’m the -10c temps although I did block off 2/3 of the rad to keep it warm

 

another finding from the tear down on the Burtz engine. The crank snout is just about .006 longer than the length of the front pulley so it doesn't seat tight against the crank timing gear. It was loose, front to back, in addition to being a loose fit in diameter. Repop parts on repop parts. Looks like I need to re look at the crank key size too....

 

Did you remember to put the tin oil slinger washer on before the pulley?

 

Happy 2023 everbody, It hit -37 here at Christmas, haven't seen that in a while! Got a '31 project pickup, cleaned up the engine -found out it's a 1938 A diamond block, so pretty happy about that...

 

Yes, and yes I will again but thanks for checking