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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by raven, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. I am also interested in the coilovers and their configuration....
     
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  2. Atwater Mike
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    Hey! I have a 'glass '23 with turtledeck...up on the mezzanine! And another Model A frame, and lots of engines & trannies...
     
  3. raven
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    Swap meet purchase...
    Now wouldn’t that be funny to find out if I had mounted them upside down...argh!
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  4. raven
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    Well, what are you waiting for?
    “You men have work to do, snap to it”

    Anyone know what that line is from?
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  5. flamedabone
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    You're a wuss if you don't drive it to the HAMB Drags this August.....

    -Abone.
     
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  6. lake_harley
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    I'm not saying you have them upside down, but generally the body of the shock goes to the bottom, and the shaft points up. Some shocks work OK upside down (typical circle track installation), but I'm not sure all shocks do their best that way.

    Lynn
     
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  7. raven
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    Oh trying to stir things up are you?
    Pork and I have already talked about how to hook up a trailer of race fuel to it and run a flexible hose to the car so we can drive to MoKan.... but at 6-7 dollars a gallon, I’d go broke making the drive.
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  8. raven
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    No idea...
    Any way of telling up or down by looking at it?
    I honestly don’t know.
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  9. lake_harley
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    The mount on the shock itself appears to be a single stud mount on the end of the shaft. Typically that part goes up when installed, not that there aren't bottom-stud mount shocks, but the body of the shock is most times at the bottom. You have them installed with the body at the top and the shaft of the shock at the bottom. The bottom mount appears to be a homebuilt "adapter" of sorts to provide the shock's stud a place to go, and also serve as a spring perch.

    Lynn
     
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  10. raven
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    [​IMG]

    Ok, Olds people, stupid question time.
    Tab on the front motor mount, does it go towards the front or back of the engine?
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  12. raven
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    Thanks
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  13. raven
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    Ok, following lake_harley’s advice, I pulled the coil overs and took them apart to check for any indication of direction on them. Observing no arrow pointing up or down, I went by the orientation of the text I found stamped into the body.
    Going by that, Einstein had them upside down.
    I’d fire him but then who would do the crappy dirty jobs?
    I like the end result a lot better.
    r
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  14. raven
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    [​IMG][​IMG]

    Had to edit these two because my phone wants to take pictures upside down...
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  15. alchemy
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    Since things are still in flux, can you move the coilovers outward? Looks like you got at least an inch or more on each side. It would add stability. Especially on hard launches when that big Olds winds up.
     
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  16. raven
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    My original intention was to mount them straight up and down but angled them to make it more ‘street’ friendly. Since I need to move the ladder bars more parallel to the frame to clear the body, I might revisit the coil over mounts more towards me original intent.
    And that is why I’m just tacking it together for now.
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  17. raven
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    Oh, to answer your question, there really isn’t enough room to move the top mount out since there is little clearance between the coil and the bottom of the frame.
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  18. junkyjunkie
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    I like what you're doing here. Looking to get started on my '26 Roadster this winter and using a T frame. Subscribed.
     
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  19. raven
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    If you’re going to use a T frame and run any V-8, you will find that widening the frame will make thing a lot easier.
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  20. bchctybob
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    This project is awesome, Raven. I’m doing an Olds/Hydro deal myself so I’m kinda biased.
    I think you and Atwater Mike should do an East vs West build-off - “The Great H.A.M.B. Leftovers Build-off”


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  21. Corn Fed
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    Can you put some small dimples on the inner edges of the lower rails to gain some clearance to allow for moving the coilovers outward?
     
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  22. This is an awesome build, and it's pretty incredible that you're accomplishing it with spare parts. Good on you for actually building a solid car, instead of just throwing something together for a quick sale.
     
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  23. raven
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    If I do anything I will just run them vertically. It will depend on where the ladder bars end up after I move them to clear the body.
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  24. raven
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    I can’t help but overbuild, it’s my nature. I’m fighting myself thinking that I need more bracing for the upper coil over mounts, but I have to remind myself that it’s going to be a light car.
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    Lol. I'm such a dork. I had to go back and look at this. First time through I thought it was a piece of cinder block sitting there for mock up purposes.
     
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  26. Nice build. I'm digging it.
     
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  27. raven
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    Still working on it. Not much done since it’s been a busy week.
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    Just some teaser shots.
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  28. Corn Fed
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    I love the front motor mount crossmember! Cool way to keep the Model T-ness of the frame.
    You need to get another one for the trans cross mount.
    Man that drive shaft is gonna be short.
     
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  29. raven
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    Yeah, when I was thinking about the cross members and trying to lighten the work load, the ‘bright’ idea came to me to reuse as much as possible. I mean why not. It’s already there and strong enough. I would love to have another one for the transmission mount, but I don’t have any.
    Anyone have one to get rid of?
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  30. raven
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    Guesstimate of the driveshaft length is about 21”.
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