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  1. motoklas
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    ... should somebody make a replica of it, even something smaller and more modest, cheaper, too?
    Ciao,
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    51852481_10156325372427987_6701809338807222272_n.jpg 51797905_10156325382522987_185627185158029312_n.jpg 1942 Breguet Type A@ Electrique. Rick F. pic. ....
     
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    Love the face of the guy driving past. They are photographing this nice cyclecar not his big fancy car.
     
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    Tojeiro-JAP.jpg
    Tojeiro-JAP, c.1951.
     
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    Just the thing for the morning commute. w8z1feyk6rp11.jpg
     
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    Hello, there!
    It looks to me as the photo from the great old film "La Strada" - "The Street" (or "The Road"), about travelling micro-circus "Zampano"...



    Most of such around the Second World War combinations in Italy and around were three-wheelers on the base of old Moto-Guzzi 500 single-cylinder... I remember them in Belgrade until the late sixties, used as freight-carrying taxies, mostly illegal.

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    However, for this one in the film - it seems that it could be Vincent motorcycle used as a base.
    Quite strange choice for Italian film?

    Ciao,
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    Oh, Nino Rota's music and Giulietta Masina's eyes!
     
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  13. SR100
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    Zoran,
    There are two different bikes here. In the pic in front of the stone wall, the cylinder is 45 degrees forward, and likely the front cylinder of an American V-twin. In the scene w/ the trumpet, the cylinder is vertical, probably a parallel twin, and certainly not American, but I don't recognize it.
     
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    Give that film an Oscar
     
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    Hello, Rolf!
    All three photos are magnificent, whenever G.N. is shown, especially in its greatest, original period.
    The second and the third are quite dynamic, showing the daredevil-style of driving those small beasts.

    I prefer such old black/white photos with character and spirit, to the new in colour, from museums or shows. New photos from racing of classic sport/racing cars from the vintage era are also attractive and informative.

    The second photo I saw for the first time - and it looks quite original in spite of too steep ground!
    Comparing level with boards on the fence and figures of people from the public - there are not any of photo-tricks, often use. Could angle be near 45° ~ almost 100 %?
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    NO - after some rough geometrical calculation - the angle of the road could be around 30° - but, that is still very high 58 %!

    As I remember, in old Yugoslavia, all percents from 8-12% consider as high (there where sings by the road) and the highest was in some passes over mountains in Bosnia and Herzegovina, going up-and-down. There could be even more in Monte Negro on some local and regional roads, but nobody care to put such information on signs as a warning...

    Ciao, Zoran
     
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    Hard to tell the actual angle of the hill, although if you look at the angle of the people on the hill it appears that the camera may have been tilted a bit to make it look steeper than it actually was.

    The part that caught my eye was the front tire that appears to be about to leave the rim.
     
  19. JackdaRabbit
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    I just caught that film on Turner Classic Movies here in the States. It did win for best foreign language film in 1956. It was released in Europe in `54.
    In the film, Zampano (Anthony Quinn) says "it's American and never broke down". He's seen operating a tank shifter in one scene. Could be a conglomeration motorcycle or it went through various incarnations during shooting.

    Yes, Giulieta (Mrs Fellini) Masina's eyes rivaled all the dialog for expression.
     
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    I love it, sign me up for one, a cycle car with a 50 Cal i'm all in for this one
     
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    Even children like it
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    A new knee joint is the reason to have so a lot of time to make some contribution 38C662AF-C4DF-4631-9FEB-6A303E66AA05.jpeg
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    The last one for today I have to go to the Physiotherapie
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    SR100 - I've seen several of your posts, and have meant to ask if "SR100" was taken from the model name of the Byers FRP sports car body of the late fifties or early sixties? Arguably the best looking 'glass bodies ever; I just read someplace that it is going to be produced again.

    I usually think of "cyclecars" as very light cars, with tall, skinny wire wheels, but as defined in the initial post in this thread (MC powered), I have a couple of qualifiers. One is a rear-engined 1/2 midget that I bought a few decades ago, and has been collecting dust ever since. Two years ago I finally got around to determining specifically what the engine is, by corresponding with a BSA authority in England. Discovered that it is a first-year (1938) 500cc "Goldstar", which I'm told is of a fair value.

    The second car is an engineless full midget, procured around the same time frame. This was originally built with two Harley knuckleheads, arranged in tandem, to form essentially a V4. Being Harley illiterate, I assumed I could pickup two engines for a couple of grand. Then reality hit me, as I learned they were 10-15 thou a piece! I recently found a rebuilt shovelhead for a small fraction of that, am looking for a duplicate.

    I noted that you've posted some in the go kart thread, and had mentioned the Formula 4 class. I remember a beautiful, essentially scaled-down F1 car of maybe 50 years ago, named the Johnny Walker (pics attached). These had 650cc Triumph twins. Ever heard of them?
     

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  27. 64 DODGE 440
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    Gotta love the running in the snow video. Running sideways and barking exhaust. It doesn't get much better than that.
     
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    53169361_10218643179699601_6030844836246978560_n.jpg 1927 Bol D' or from Marc and Isabelle
     
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  29. motoklas
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    Hello, Desmodromic!
    In both approaches you are right!
    Original cyclecars could be defined as you wrote that.
    In the same time, this long thread was started about the building of "modern cyclecar".

    Some of the cyclecars, especially before The Great War (The First World War was it - nothing great in it) had modest, even pathetic engines, sometimes two-stroke single cylinder, with unknown but low performances.

    However, the good ones had the best and the most powerful motorcycle engines or special engines based on them - from their period.
    So, modern DIY cyclecars should have similar engines from modern times!
    (not necessary Hayabusa or similar monsters)

    Quite daredevil motorized road vehicles on 3 or 4 wheels would they be?
    Some projects were shown here, from time to time, but not one finished as I know...
    If you finish what you describe, that would be interestign for a lot of us and tribute to the starter of this long thread!

    Ciao,
    Zoran
     
  30. Rolfzoller
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    That could be a reason to visit Europe
     
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