Technical ***March 2018 Banger Meet - Equinox Time***

***NEW*** Coming Events:
April 22 - Orange County Model A Ford Club 57th Annual Pancake Breakfast 8 AM - 11 AM Pancakes, sausage, juice, & hot coffee Adults $7/Children(2- 10 years) $4 For more info contact: Frank Reese at 714-348-2507

May 19th The Jalopy Showdown
Lincoln Speedway 800 Racetrack Road Abbottstown PA contact [email protected]

June 8-10 The Race of Gentlemen
Wildwood, New Jersey

July 13 - 15 F.A.S.T.
A gathering at an unnamed ranch Fri. 13th during the day.
A "cook your Own" steak dinner at the San Luis Obispo Elks lodge Friday July 13th night..
Santa Margarita Ranch "Trials" July 14th,
"Early Ford" show in Atascadero Lake Park Sunday July 15th
Contact Old Dawg for now

Here is the banger link list:

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:

http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
and this link shows the missing image from the above post
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:

http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:

http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

Chevy Banger Stuff

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

New Banger Block in the Works
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/

 

STILL HERE...........

 

thank you

 

Checking in. Going to switch over to steel wheels to replace the 16” wires later this month or first of next month.

 

what kinda steel ? I sold my last set of wires & bought new les schaub wheels . kinda like amour wheels .

 

I like new stuff

 

Hey fellas, quick question: Is anyone reproducing the Evans 2x2 intake? With or without name, I don't care, I just like that it's cast, has rounded tubes, and lacks fins, so anything equivalent would be swell.

 

Checking in for the month. I got my new sedan running and took it around the block. Still deciding what to do with it. Make it a daily, hot rod it, or sell it and build a hot motor for the coupe. The car is in super shape and is complete.






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still here

My stock car is on the road again after a year and the speedster is down because it donated its motor to the stock car

 

Hey Binger, I vote for build a hot motor for the coupe

 

Going with 16” Vintage steel wheels. Love the artillery wheels, but not enough to switch from the 16” Excelsiors.

 

That is the direction I am leaning. I have some interest for the car here in town. I also thought I might see if I can work out some sort of trade to Bert’s model A in Denver for a hot motor. I already have a stocker roadster and a restored ‘30 Chevy sedan so I don’t really need another A or sedan. Besides my other cars need my attention too. I feel a little guilty some of them need work and haven’t been driven in years.


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you guys are fast, or is that the calendar moving fast?????

 

Beautiful coupe banger power. Tell me more about it please. Bob.................

 

Try derek at Antique Ford NZ

 

We're all here, cause we're not all there!

 

wait....isn't it leap year....or what ?

 

I’m wiring the engine and just got a battery for this car. Hope to get it running soon.


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I've been driving the stocker because everything else is still broke.

 

Polish it up, looks like a daily to me. They play with the roadster.

 

That would be this fellow?

 

gasser bob .... a daily driver . 4" dropped front axle , coil overs in rear , 1942 hyd brakes , t-5 trans , quick change rear , lots of motor mods , 3:27 rear gear . it runs 60 mph all day . thanks for asking ........ steve

 

Thank you!

 

I was there once, didn't like it ....

 

I have dealt with these people . great peps !

 

I have done a lot of searching and reading regarding various transmission options for the Model A using the original warmed up 4 banger. I have a '31 Coupe that I hope to get started working on in the next couple months. My interest is for it to cruise comfortably at 65-ish MPH. I currently have picked up a 5.2:1 compression head and a Model B centrifugal advance distributor. Other plans I have would be an increase in breathing capacity for the banger by going to some type of larger carb. Perhaps a carb from a B and either opening up the original A manifold or also changing to a B intake, or going to an aftermarket or homebuilt intake with a downflow carb. I would be quite capable of building an exhaust header too. Cam change to a B grind or perhaps one step up from Stipe would also be high on my list of modifications that are mostly non-invasive to the engine.

My biggest dilemma is in settling on transmission choice to get a synchronized transmission. I'd also like to incorporate an overdrive in the build to help reach the cruise speed goal of about 65 MPH. Either retaining the torque tube or converting to an open driveshaft is fine with me.

My first choice for an overdrive is the RTS170 3-speed with overdrive 4th is my first choice, and I've already picked up an AA bellhousing that I've seen used in several conversions/adaptations. One downside is that the RTS170 transmissions don't exactly seem to be taking up space in too many garages or salvage yards so difficulty in finding one nearby and the prices being asked have surprised me.

A potential 2nd option is a T5, that I already have, that came out of a 2WD S-10. I've seen the T5 used with open driveshaft conversions and also retaining the torque tube, as is also the case with the RTS170.

I've also seen a Volvo manual transmission swap, but I expect that the availability of it might be similar to that of the RTS170 and the most compact Volvo transmission, that looked like a good candidate, was a 3-speed, not an overdrive.

Then there's the Mitchel overdrive that installs in mid torque tube, but that alone wouldn't improve what I'll call shift quality, so that isn't a highly regarded option.

Are there other potential transmission swaps that I've not come across, forgotten or failed to mention that I should consider? I suspect there are others. As I mentioned earlier, I'm still a couple months away from getting started on the '31, so I have time to decide a direction to go. FWIW, I'm starting with a running, driving, "survivor" car that I bought from a fellow HAMB member late last Summer.

I'll say "thank you", in advance, for insight and direction from those here who can share personal experience with various transmission upgrades.

Lynn

 

Here's a pic of my 29 Roadster. I just purchased Clings Adapter to put a 39 Trans behind my A motor. Just collecting some of the pieces that don't come with the kit. Eventually I would like to run my Riley with a B motor and a Halibrand 101 Quick change!

 

lake-Harley . a daily driver . 4" dropped front axle , coil overs in rear , 1942 hyd brakes , t-5 trans , quick change rear , lots of motor mods , 3:27 rear gear . it runs 60 mph all day

 

51 merc .................. very nice roadster & a 101 quick change ... rare anymore . I have one & like it ... steve