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Technical ***December 2017 Banger Meet - Little Saint Nick Banger Powered?***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
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    Here is the banger link list:

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.fordgarage.com/

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/
     
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  2. Here, patienly awaiting parts being shipped... :confused:
     
  3. bobo1
    Joined: Dec 18, 2008
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    from France

  4. Anyone know a source for this spring. It is on a winfield choke. I have a second butterfly missing the spring IMG_4043.JPG
     

  5. Andrew Mccann
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    from Bristol UK

    Santa dropped things off early to me. Oldsmobile 3 port.

    9585E62D-0246-4BBA-A306-884615D687A9.jpeg
     
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  6. Bluto
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    NOT MANY SHOPPING DAYS LEFT GUYS......
     
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  7. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    I bought everything for this year at last years after Christmas sale
    by the way, I'm getting you the same thing I got you last year if that works
     
  8. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    from Colorado

    Checking in.....even though my A powered hot rod has a fake QC, fiberglass replica E&J headlights and a number on the door!
     
  9. hardtimesainit
    Joined: Jan 24, 2009
    Posts: 625

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    Hey bobol,
    Nice improvement !
    Is that a new alum Tod head ? Looks to be 7:1, eh ?
     
  10. bobo1
    Joined: Dec 18, 2008
    Posts: 504

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    from France

  11. waxhead
    Joined: May 11, 2013
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    from West Oz

    Checking in.
     
  12. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    Wow, December already?

    Antique Nats 2013 10.jpg
     
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  13. I hope I can ask this so you understand. I am using a Model B distributor and as you know the base mounts in the head with a pin and set screw. The distributor cam is adjustable to locate number 1 cylinder.
    I am changing to a Mallory Ya 11A. The problem is there is a set screw indent on the housing and if I line this up in the head the rotor is between 1 and 2. I assume that since the Mallory distributor cam is fixed I could rotate the distributor to fire on number 1. My question is can the oil pump/ distributor drive gear be lifted and turned one or two teeth to relocate the rotor or is it in a fixed location? If I can do this I know I need to turn the oil pump so that it all lines up. Can this be done without dropping the pan? Thanks.
     
  14. Crazydaddyo
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    Yes, the oil pump is driven off of a tang on the bottom of the distributor drive. I've used a long flat blade screwdriver to turn the oil pump drive shaft. There is a lead on the tang and on the mouth of the slot to help line them up if you are close.

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  15. hardtimesainit
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    Answer: An optimist would say...anything is possible.
    In this case , I say no, as I've tried such maneuver.
    That said, I've used Mallory distributors (not your model) where Mallory provided a SCREW on the lower plate that is accessible thru a hole in the upper plate. Maybe your model has similar arrangement ?? Loosening this screw lets goal be accomplished, but then have to reset points/timing, etc....Let us know if there IS a different answer than mine.
     
  16. hardtimesainit
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    Hey Dan,
    So, you saying that you use the screw driver to align the pump slot, with the pump drive(tang) gear (helical) with cam installed ?
     
  17. Crazydaddyo
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  18. Thanks, I now know what needs done.
     
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  19. Crazydaddyo
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  20. Crazydaddyo
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    It is a little tricky, and it takes some fineness. Be patient and think it through. You are a smart guy, you'll get it. ;)

    Sent from my SM-J320P using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  21. Took another look at the distributor, Hardtimes is correct in that there are two screws beside the cam that if loosen let you rotate the rotor to any position. So simple but it had me stumped. Thanks to both of you, learned something today.
     
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  22. hardtimesainit
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    Your welcome and...Thanks to you and your question also ! I learned , via Dan, that what I thought should work, but could not geterdone...will work. Guess that I was a bit impatient. However, I was trying to realign Magneto instead of a distributor. Same/same I guess. Thanks Dan for confirmation !
    BTW...those Mallory distributors....are the best !!
     
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  23. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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    IT depends on what magneto you have. Most don't care which position #1. NOT VERTEX #1 ON THE CAP SHOULD ALWAYS BE #1! I trusted my mags to this guy for over 35 years.

    I have also though the thread updates were now fixed..... NOPE Sorry to say.
     
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  24. V4F
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    from middle ca.

    jimski , you still not getting updates ?
     
  25. Bluto
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    I thought I was till this month ... hey I got this one..... maybe it will take :)

    A very Merry Christmas to you all.
     
  26. V4F
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    from middle ca.

    I hope so as very frustrating
     
  27. hardtimesainit
    Joined: Jan 24, 2009
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    Yup, true words, as it's a Scintilla/Vertex. I use the Vertex Company back east. Great guys to deal with and reasonable $.
     
  28. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
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    from wyoming

    Checking in for the month! I just purchased a 30' Ford 2 Door Sedan. got it for a great price. Barn fresh. I will post a few pictures when I get it home.
     
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  29. winduptoy
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    waiting for pictures and story
     
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