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Hot Rods The No Frame Model A Modified

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  1. great engineering and fab work here. What an inspiration.
     
  2. dentisaurus
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    Lot more space in the foot well than I would have thought. Very neat solution


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  3. rottenleonard
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    Thanks!
    That it the beauty of the space frame construction, to get this low with a channel job you loose all of your leg room.
     
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  4. rottenleonard
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    Also the powdercoaters called yesterday, wheels were done.
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  5. looking good,
    Is the gas pedal going on top of the clutch linkage somehow?
     
  6. This car is awesome! Lots of skill here!
     
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  7. AHotRod
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    I Love the build, design and creativity.
     
  8. jerseyboy
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    You got fab skills man! Cool solutions too.
     
  9. Looks like the first "bird cage" model A. Those IIItalians got nuthin on you.
     
  10. MMM1693
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    Just one hell of job ! Great work all around!
     
  11. rottenleonard
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    Over it anyhow
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  12. gnichols
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    Hate to ask... but is their any doubt in your mind that that old flattie will hold up as a stressed member? Gary
     
  13. rottenleonard
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    Really not too worried if you look at something like an 8N ford tractor which has a B motor, the engine is the frame, we did A LOT, of stupid stuff in those and we broke lots of other things like wheels and axles but never a block. v75.jpg
     
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  14. very cool and innovative
    reminds me of European sports cars
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  15. gnichols
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    I see, said the blind man. I'd still get in line for a ride some day if I could. Gary
     
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  16. fiftyv8
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    I'm on board with this project, but after following progress, have just started to wonder how difficult it might be to remove a tranny or engine should the need arise.
    Have you been making build decisions that will help make that easy???
     
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  17. gnichols
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    ^ My guess is that it would be easier! Gary
     
  18. rottenleonard
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    I have been pretty careful to make everything removable, granted the engine will have to come out in order to remove the transmission. I don't believe that will be that big of a job in the grand scheme of things. But when we blow it apart for powder coat I guess we will find out haha.
     
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  19. rottenleonard
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    I worked on the exhaust, intake, and front spring hangers yesterday. 20171101_105321.jpg 20171101_111052.jpg 20171103_083532.jpg 20171103_094609.jpg 20171103_162108.jpg 20171103_162054.jpg 20171103_161823.jpg 20171103_162118.jpg
     
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  20. rottenleonard
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  21. rottenleonard
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    I also machined up another pair of Harley wheels for Model A spindles, if anybody would like a set they are ready to go. $700 for the pair 20171102_140450.jpg
     
  22. captainjunk#2
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    that s a pretty awesome build ,
     
  23. rottenleonard
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    I knocked the topps off thr king pins, required a little filler and lathe work
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    Then reworked the brake brackets a little
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    Getting the coolig system to flow without an air lock was going to require a little modification
    20171113_154629.jpg stock upper water neck
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    Cut off and milled flat
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    Bored a hole in the front for 1.5" tube and tig'd it together with silicone bronze.
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    That should let the air out and the water past.
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  24. 2NDCHANCE
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    awesome fab work, you won't want to re-sell that car very quickly. Great job. gary
     
  25. rottenleonard
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    I got back on the no frame model A last week, first order of business was gusseting the front subframe and also tieing it back into the bottom of the block at two more points.
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    Trying to reuse as many Model A Parts as possible this spring spacer needed to be repurposed as a spring locator. So I spun up a sleeve and Tig welded it in. 20180327_113459.jpg

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    While the car was together my guess at ride height was about an inch and a half too low. The solution was to section out the front spring Mount to bring it up so I have just a little drop front to rear.
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  26. MAD Skills! Love the execution!
     
  27. BJR
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    This is sooooooo far beyond my limited skill set, it is just a pleasure to see it being created. Please keep posting to the finish. Brian
     
  28. Nostrebor
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    I'm here to critique this build...

    I've got nothin.:D

    Well ok, I do suddenly want to sell off all of my stuff and build one of these. I'm not really happy about that. Otherwise, the build is off the charts! Please continue.
     
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  29. 49ratfink
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