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Technical ***July 2017 Banger Meet - A Midsummers Dream of Bangers***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. The37Kid
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    Here is a semi finished B cam I've had for about 40 years now, note the protective radiator hose on the distributor oil pump gear. I remember reading about Raymond Mays hand filing 16 valve Bugatti cams by hand, time must have been real cheap in the old days. NOTE this is the car loosing a wheel in blgitn's avatar! Bob DSCF9078.JPG DSCF9079.JPG
     
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  2. The37Kid
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    Four dip pan, must be a future race motor.:rolleyes: Bob
     
  3. fur biscuit
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    Less weights, more speeds!

    The heels on those lobes might need a touch of finish grinding...


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  4. blgitn
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    It has a big oil fill but looks like an A block (oil return and no fuel pump). Could it still have a counter balanced crank?
     
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  5. Crazydaddyo
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    I'm partial to red engines, they go fastest just before they break.


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  6. deffinately has the diamond. Other than that, who knows
     
  7. CDO,
    The last pic of rear main section looks like it has a groove in the journal, for oil?
    Was this a Babbit motor? and the groove added to feed the rod?
    Still impressed with "Pop's" Yellow Pickup, what happened, I was sure to see it at the Antique Nationals.

    J
     
  8. V4F
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    a little behind again ........... HAPPY FORTH TO ALL
     
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  9. blgitn
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    I thought chrome made them faster.
     
  10. noboD
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    Just drove by there yesterday. Wish I would have known. The wife and I did 5060 miles in 17 days. I saw two yellow engines at Speedy Bill's museum, one had a FEW Ford parts on them.
     
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  11. Crazydaddyo
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    John,
    The crank in the last two pictures was a B crank set up for Pontiac rods with inserts of some sort. The Pontiac rods are narrower then Ford rods. Whoever built this engine ground the throws that way to provide thrust support for the narrower rods. We bought that engine to get the Rutherford head. It was out of a dirt track car that was supposed to be "fresh" and ready to run. The pistons were Chevy I think.

    As far as the Antique Nats go, I was tuning the carb and ignition set up in the PU. I installed a wide band O2 sensor in the exhaust and after a couple of weeks of mounting a pertronics kit in the distributor and re jetting the carbs, it went from running OK to a striped ape!!!!!!!! It was ready for the race with weeks to spare. I took it out for a Sunday cruise and the crank let go.

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  12. V4F
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    ill match you & raise with aluminum & no bluing
     
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  13. I think the dipstick in my 'Banger" is original Ford!
     
  14. RussTee
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    The joys of building headers when you are left hand drive
     
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  15. The only Dipstick in my car sits behind steering wheel.
     
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  16. V4F
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    a not for sale items . trying to help someone .
    curved trunk/rumble latch with key ........... free

    that is all folks ........................ steve
     
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  17. Andrew Mccann
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  18. Bluto
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    Once again I get no updates. Sorry Guys...........

    I am back againo_O

     
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  19. RichFox
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    Sounds pretty odd. Wonder what's up with that?
     
  20. V4F
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    jim , I wonder why you don't get updates ? maybe RYAN can explain or fix it .
     
  21. Bluto
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    Steve

    Got that one

    THANK YOU
     
  22. BCCHOPIT
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  23. The37Kid
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes it is! There is something special about the look of a 3 or 4 1/2 liter Bentley, that one has very nice looking fenders. Bob
     
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  25. The37Kid
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    Yes, but the Speed Six Bentley had the overhead cam driven by three connecting rods, worth the Google search. Bob

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  26. V4F
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    cool car for sure
     
  27. The Triple Con-rod drive has been around a long time, I think it was used in motorcycles also.
    I like the Bentley vert shaft, it makes sense to also pick up the mag or dist drive there.

    I had to look closely to the pics, there is a Buick straight 8 that looks similar, another example of Beauty.

    John
     
  28. Bluto
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    An old friend asked me about 3ltr Bentley. Told him to cut the top off his IHC Travel-all and he'd be better off.......... A couple weeks later he called me saying the crank broke. :rolleyes:

     
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  29. The37Kid
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    I'd rather look at a broken 3 liter Bentley than a running Corn Binder. o_OBob
     
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  30. Boy! Do I REALLY resemble that remark! But, in this case, I'm just sitting on a wheel!
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