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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kurtis, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. 28dreyer
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    IMGP5665.JPG IMGP5667.JPG IMGP5671.JPG
    yes my ex-midget, pre-WWII. Lots of 1/4 ellipticals front and rear in that era from the Benz pictured to Miller, Dreyer, and others.

    Front is tube axle, cross spring with Shilala mounting. No left shackle and pivoting mounts on both ends. Also left front radius rod has pivot at the axle. There are two steering arms because it has a duplex steering gear, two pitman arms and two drag links, no tie rod.

    Note shock link in first picture is mounted on the spherically turned or ball head of the specially made radius rod pivot bolt
     
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  2. motoklas
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    Thank you on interesting photos and detailed explanation!
    Obiously that any system if carefully designed, constructed and tested (redesigned and developed in process), could be succesful!
    Have a lot of experience with smaller European cars that were good for "pensioner-style" driving, but quite dangerous above that. However, when properly modified, they were excellent in every kind of competition...

    Zoran
     
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  3. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    At least yours has friction shocks.
     
  4. Six Ball
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    "pensioner-style" driving, ??? At what age are we no longer suitable to drive in your company?
     
  5. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Generally, When you leave your left turn signal on while driving down the road - its time.
     
  6. banjeaux bob
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    This goes with post #10390.... 18157076_10155479143094267_6512785704242268176_n.jpg
     
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  7. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I love all the lightening holes.
    On the front suspension I see those "band brake" shock absorber dealies, but I still don't see any damping mechanisms for the rear end. Am I missing something?
     
  8. 64 DODGE 440
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    So if we leave the right turn signal on we're OK?o_O
     
  9. Bill Rinaldi
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    My guess would Dodge Bros. Fenders not quite the same as a T. Bill
     
  10. banjeaux bob
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  11. Six Ball
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    I love that one!
     
  12. WillyNilly
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    [​IMG]
    I found it!
    Overland tourer. See the edging on the fenders and the running boards.

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. WillyNilly
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    Apologies for the non racing post, but I did kick this thread back to life after a month and a half of nothing. :)
     
  14. Loose Ctrl
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    I'd drive it like I stole it.:D
     
  15. Six Ball
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    There was one of those sitting in a row of old cars, trucks, and tractors at a ranch my friend live on back in high school. We fired it up! Of course it wasn't as old back then. :rolleyes:
     
  16. Nope. Fenders on the car in question are not curved on the way down to the running boards. They are flat. There is also no "bill" on the fenders on the car in question.
     
  17. banjeaux bob
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  18. Kume
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    cool trailer - thought the car was underslung for a second there.
     
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  19. The37Kid
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    Yes, notice that the trailer wheels are also the Daytons that go on the race car, Model A Ford wheels strapped to the car are for the A towing it. Bob
     
  20. banjeaux bob
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  21. Vitesse
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    I wonder which Grand Prix? Guess it could be either the GP de Provence or maybe the GP du MC de Marseille - both 1925. In which case, it's presumably Orello, who drove an Amilcar in both events. The only other Amilcar entry is Toto Roche in the Marseille race. Given the hats and coats, probably the GP de Provence, as it was run in March!
     
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  22. Michael Ferner
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    It's André Morel himself, GP de Provence in 1926 (March 28).
     
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  23. Vitesse
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    :oops: *polishes glasses*
     
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  24. Bluto
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    An old friend raced outlaw big cars before WW2 .... We talk about it often. He told me that if he didn't show up with a painted and pretty car he might not get his "show-up" money
     
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  25. drtrcrV-8
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    Just goes to prove that Racing , from early on , IS "Show Biz", & always will be, especially with the expense involved; if the paying fans didn't show up, it would be impossible to continue, & with few exceptions, has always been that way!!
     
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  26. banjeaux bob
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  27. Jim Scammell
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    Ah ha SB !,
    I was attempting to point you at this thread after I found your Essex Four engine thread.
    It's good eh ?
    Cheers
    Jim
     
  28. Bluto
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    Show biz?
    Check this banger out



    and



     
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  29. drtrcrV-8
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    One of my favorite racing movies! Yes Bluto : Most definitely SHOW BUSINESS! & in some of the most basic form : Winner vs Losers. How often have you heard : "Second place is First Loser!"?
     
  30. Six Ball
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    Yes Jim, This thread is one of my favorites. I am not knowledgable on this subject but am learning a lot and I never get tired on looking at the pictures.
     

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