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Projects Lincoln Cosmopolitan Sport Coupe 1952

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Dean66, Jan 2, 2017.

  1. drtrcrV-8
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    Don't even think about "welding this one"!!! Advertise for someone else's used piston(or possibly set?) first!! Welding Aluminum castings in "non-stressed" service is rough enough, but in "stressed" applications, the loss of strength(unless properly heat-treated as part of the process) & having the same loads that 'broke-it' in the first place applied to it is a recipe for disaster!! The welding/heat treating will be way more than the cost of a set of pistons!! Try a commercial truck parts supplier for TRW cast replacements. Maybe look in a salvage yard for another Lincoln/Ford Commercial engine for a set of used pistons? Advertise on E-bay or here on the HAMB, or among the local antique car clubs (especially those 'into' American vehicles)?
     
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  2. Dean66
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    While fighting against this piston issue, i managed to install new brake lines. One step forward :)

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  3. El Caballo
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    We have an old saying, "Pay me now, or pay me later." Meaning, you are going to pay anyway, and usually later means paying more. I'd get a set of pistons and call it getting off cheap.
     
  4. gnichols
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    I saw this car last weekend... in HOK Tangelo Pearl with a Caddy pearl white roof. If you're starting to consider colors, this look was fantastic. Gary
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  5. Jalopy Joker
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    using copper for brake lines?
     
  6. prez
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    that sure doesn't look like a 55 steering box
    but I would like to know what it came from ????
     
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  7. I owned a '53 Convertible up until about 5 years ago. I loved it.
    Yes, parts availability is a challenge..
    Try contacting CORNERINFOOL here on the HAMB. He is a wealth of parts and knowledge.
     
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  8. Finnrodder
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    I think thats cunifer,thats what we use in here...
    Keep it up,Dean!
     
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  9. cornerinfool helped me immensely on locating a power steering box, some emblems and trim. Great guy.
     
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  10. Dean66
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    i think it came out from -56 Linc from eBay.
     
  11. El Caballo
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    Holy shit, that does look like copper, I do hope it is cunifer.
     
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  12. Dean66
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  13. Dean66
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    Built originally by GM, rebuilt by my friend. Hyrdamatic.
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  14. Dean66
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    i finally find enough dollars to be able to get full set of pistons. engine back on pieces and start everything allover again =) welcome to my hell? well, this is just a hobby and i love it :p

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  15. Dean66
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    Talking about luck! Just found a full package of Lincoln power! This sure will help me with my piston problem! My friend is just bringing it to my garage. This was removed from daily driver (well, here in Finland, just during summertime) last summer.

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  16. drtrcrV-8
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    GOOD SCORE!! '55 or newer(looks '56 or '57), so it's at least 341" (probably/hopefully 368"), making an improvement in power, plus you now have the dual exhaust manifolds needed to change over the '52 to duals, & a 4 bbl carb! If the donor car is still around, ask if the exhaust pipes from the manifolds to under the car might be available, as having them makes routing the exhaust system easier to figure out(if they are not useable, at least they can be used as models to make new ones). Also, again from the donor car, if the brake drums, backing plates, & wheels are available, GRAB THEM : they would give you 12" brakes "on the cheap" that are almost as good as the best modern disc brakes!! (& they are direct 'bolt-ins'!) Actually, anything mechanical that is still available is worth 'grabbing', including the radiator(it's slightly larger, but only minor modifications are needed to make it fit, & it even appears original). I make these suggestions because some people think they're "improving on the original" by changing the front suspension for a newer one, often with a different bolt pattern for the wheels, which means changing the rear axle to make the wheel patterns match. If these parts haven't been 'scrapped', GRAB THEM, : they are 'upgrades' for our early cars! IT's sad that these people just don't realize that this car's suspension was the first of the "modern" suspensions,& one of the strongest/most durable ever made! Sorry about my 'rant': I get carried away! LOL!!
     
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  17. coolbreeze1340
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    Nice start and a great find!
     
  18. Finnrodder
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    Looks like you bought that engine from a friend of mine.I guess that pic is taken at our clubhouse,those skidmarks on the floor looks like familiar too..
    Well,good to hear that engine found a new home!
     
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  19. Dean66
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    most likely. i heard this from a friend and he had time and money to get this from other side of Fin =)

    not sure, what all is usable here, but hopefully something =) strange carb is sitting at the top of it... stromberg aeroquad... never heard of such...
     
  20. Finnrodder
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    Yeah,he almost sold the aeroquad separately,but i think its a good thing its together with the motor.
    I think there's nothing bigger issues on that motor,but by checking it out you'll be sure.
     
  21. Dean66
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    quick wash and result was amazing. like new! =)
     
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  22. Dean66
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    well. pics also =) WP_20170319_17_36_25_Pro.jpg WP_20170319_17_36_51_Pro.jpg
     
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  23. drtrcrV-8
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    Check your numbers on that engine, but, judging by the driver side exhaust manifold, I would guess '55 & 341cu in. If it was '56/'57 the driver side exhaust manifold would "match" the passenger side (both pointing down & to the rear.)
     
  24. Dean66
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    true, '55 341cid. EBJ can be seen in block.

    i wonder, what kind of exhaust pipe is that original really has been?! manifold output points to quite strange direction! well, i have no pipes yet, must figure those out later =)
     
  25. drtrcrV-8
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    May I suggest finding either a pair of '56/'57 exhaust manifolds(or at least one 'left' side), as it will make your 'plumbing' problems MUCH easier!
     
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  26. Dean66
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    thanks! so it is safe to buy 368cid manifold, it will fit here? mots likely at least from ebay those are available, but shipping costs (and of course tax and VAT... argh) become quite high, if purchased there. and would like to be sure about fitting before order =) same 368 was also used in some Mercurys? need to start search. Thanks, Your help is appreciated! :)
     
  27. drtrcrV-8
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    This motor family was from Ford commercial & used in Lincolns('52 to '57), Mercury('57 Turnpike Cruiser), &(in various cid) Ford Commercial('52 to '64), as long as it's the "look-alike" (ECU & various) the parts will work.. The 368cid was the largest production motor in that 'family', & most of the differences were in bore & stroke. Just avoid the smaller Y-block Ford passenger(239/272/292/312 cid) engines. Lincoln type have the intake ports 'side by side'(Conventional), while the Y-block have a unique 'over/under' ports in pairs arrangement(very easy to spot). So, the short answer is Yes, 368 manifolds will fit.
     
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  28. coolbreeze1340
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    Wasn't the Capri a loaded out Cosmo? From my understanding the Capri was the top of line model in 1952,,,
     
  29. drtrcrV-8
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    Cosmopolitan was the base model : 2 door hardtop & 4 door sedan/ Capri was same 2 base cars, with the addition of a 2 door convertible. THE ONLY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO LINES WAS IN THE "TRIM": ALL the other body & running gear parts interchange within the same model year. '52 was a 2bbl carburetor/ '53&'54 had 4bbl carburetor, as well as power steering & power brakes as optional. '52&'53 had 11" brakes/'54 through'57 had 12" brakes( '52/'53 wheels only fit '52&'53, while '54 through '57 wheels will fit all '52 through '57 cars) All were 15" rims. Front end mechanical parts interchange '52/'57, as well as rear axles & springs. '52/'54 hydramatic transmissions are close enough to interchange, as well as steering boxes. The '55/'57 steering boxes & transmissions I've never worked with, so I'm not sure about them. With slight modifications to the radiator support, the '56/'57 radiator can be installed into the '52/'54 cars for increased cooling. PLEASE REMEMBER: I'M PULLING THIS INFO OUT OF ROUGHLY 40/50YRS AGO, SO MY RECOLLECTIONS MAY NOT BE TOTALLY CORRECT, BUT THEY'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO "BASELINE" FROM.
     
  30. Dean66
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    Just testing.... Almost perfect =)

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