Technical 37 ford truck nose on a 33 coupe

Can anyone explain in detail the procedure to get a 37 truck nose on a 33 coupe. Please, no wise guys.

 

There was a how-to article in R & C about the process, I'm guessing around 1973. Jim Jacob's coupe (the car in the picture you posted) was the subject, and he probably did the article.

 

First up, you need to narrow it because stock it is too fat and chubby (if you want it to look any good)

 

From what I remember the nose on Jakes coupe came on one of the few he combined to build the yellow car. It is definitely narrowed as X38 said.

 

Gonna be cool....gotta put it on there and see what's what

 

A lot of work but sure looks cool!

 

Clark knows how to do it. Bob

 

Not to be rude, but, if you have to ask, it is beyond your capabilities. It sure is beyond mine.

 

Here,s another one

 

One more

 

^^^^^WOW! That one is shortened too. Bob

 

I really like the look of the red car where the chrome strip down the center of the grille connects with the hood hinge. I also very much like the reduction in size of the grille shell, retaining the original shape of the front of the hood side, rather than keeping the shell full size as the white car has. Beautiful job.

 

Agree...and the grill looks better being a little bit more narrow on the sides...and probably easier on the 34 hood since there isn't the dip on the hood top like the 33


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That red car is the way to do it, best example I've ever seen.
But then again it's a total rework, looks like Henry did it

 

View attachment 3478598 View attachment 3478598 View attachment 3478596 View attachment 3478596 I chopped and narrowed mine,
$50 grill had no teeth... used 5/16" flat strips... '35 truck hood sides [looks like a pregnant '34]...
trimmed off the rusted and dented grill to fender sections...
for the vertical center strip i trimmed a '36 car SS hood side trim to be 2 teeth shorter than the grill's face, top and bottom.. sorry no pix...
made a couple of '35 hoodside strips to run on top of modified '46 tail light housings... tail light trim pix.
dropped a 2 lbs spool of stainless into the mig...
carefully welded a ball to the cut end... ground the back side flat... ground / sanded a radius on the ball end to match the stock end...
when the right size and smoothed as much as possible i "polished" the ball end with the back / paper side of my 1" belt sander's belt.. good enough for a hot rod ... street rod ? ...

 

Some will tell you it takes 350 hrs if you believe them

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/do-people-really-spend-like-this.1001594/#post-11292265



There's no comparison, the red car has a better execution.
I'll bet you lunch that there were plenty telling him why bother with all the extra work too.

 

there is a thames truck grill... wish i kept it...

 

there you go, don't have to narrow it and it has the factory directionals holes...
if you still have the thames emblem... even better...

 

Not sure if it is a Thames (pronounced "tems", like the river) somewhere but it is a Fordson in New Zealand. British vehicle.

 

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Ive talk to Bob Drake about making 37 Pu Grill S/S Trim, 37 Pu Deluxe Hood 1/4 Bead S/S Trim, ask him to make S/S Rod Hood Hinges, & he Made it. Due to our 2-3 Hour chat at Good Guys S/W NATS in 1995. I Knew Bob's Dad, Bev from ole Pate Swap meet, & I Helped him Assembly of Bob's New Repo 40's Grills, While we Talk Cars. He talk about Golf , the Ben Hogan & Byron Nelson Tournament. He was a Big Fan of those Texans! I Bought my PS Kidney Bean 16 in Knock Off wheels from Phil Schnider Of P.S. Engineering Co. Purchased My Original Thicksten Heads, Head Covers, Pm-7 Dual Intake & Air Clearner for $325.00 at 1985 Chickasa, after seeing the Popularity of the 37 Pu Grill, I decide to go another Direction. Found a 1933 Lincoln Grill Shell mint $75.00 85 Chickasa meet. Found 1935 Lincoln Grill insert Mint $125.00 on eBay listed Wrong as 1937-1939,in 2015. Purchased 1933 Lincoln Grill Shell 33 & Insert $300. Mint No Rust or Damage. Hemmings, was listed 3- Months. 2004. 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Hey big D, sounds like quite the adventure, how in the heck did you remember everybody's name and the year?
Tom

 

Great, anyone have a line on a thames truck grille???

 

i hear the aussies barbaque wallabies on the darn things...
big d... street rodder did a write up on the 4 coupes jake bought in prosess of building the california coupe...

 

Google Fordson E83W to see where the grill on the red coupe came from. It's not from a Thames.

 

Looks more like a Thames 1/2 ton shell with the crank openings filled.
I have two of them...

 

Here is better pics of my car. Pretty sure the red and white car is not a 37 truck grill. Looks too flat compared to the truck grill.

 

Definitely a Fordson truck/van grille on the red coupe. (Fordson E83W in New Zealand - maybe Thames in Pommyland).

Bear

 

What's with the broken roadster beside this?

 

Shhhh! It's the style and he paid extra for it to look like that. If you try to point out it looks bad they will call you a hater.