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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by worn shoes, Aug 15, 2015.

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  1. With the pre-flared lines, you can make bigger loops and otherwise get creative with the routing of them. For my Ford, I bought longer lengths, cut them down so I only had to do the flare on one end.
     
  2. olscrounger
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    bobss396--I did the same
     
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  3. worn shoes
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    Bought a 40" line pre made and went on perfect on the rear pass. side. Got a 20" pre made and just need to trim and flare the one side. Great minds think alike :) almost done. Going to take a break and pick up my little one from kinder. Thanks again guys!
     
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  4. Your patience is something I don't possess, I am envious.
    Shotty work followed up with attitude, great combination for business failure 101
    Good luck!
     
  5. Jimmy2car
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    Patiently waiting for the final result. I'm sure it'll all work out fine
     
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  6. worn shoes
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    Today I spent $90 at McMaster Carr for a flare tool and tubbing cutter. I spent 5 hours outside at $95 an hour for $475. I charge for my wheelchair fee $5 each time I have to go up and down onto the floor. 14 times = $70 bucks. I needed the help of my wife to bleed the brake for a 1/2 hour so $47.50 for the hired help. So we have a total of $682.50 for today. Yesterday and today equals a total of $1013.50 smackers! I still have the car up and the skirts off to check for leaks in a while. Crossing my fingers. Thanks to all who opended this thread and decided to chime in. Made this experience easier to handle :) BTW the blue anodized crap is what I took off.
     
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  7. alchemy
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    Don't forget to charge for the fluid! :)
     
  8. worn shoes
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    SHIT! That was like $4 bucks. New total $1017.50. Thanks for the heads up. Might also have a disposal fee :(
     
  9. DDDenny
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    Your lucky that your not a union shop, or it would be double that.:eek:
     
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  10. I have an old school flaring tool, but borrowed a hydraulic kit from my friend's shop to do my Ford. A little practice on some old line and I was good to go. I cut the line square, deburred it inside & out before doing the flares. After that, the flares needed a little dress up with a file... no leaks when I was done.
     
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  11. trollst
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    If the master is on the firewall, just open a bleed screw and wait, it'll bleed all the air out itself through the magic of...gravity.
     
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    The magic of gravity
     
  13. dirtracer06
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    Hell, I had one ass here in town charge me for fluid i supplied...
     
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  14. worn shoes
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    haha and I thought I had it bad :)
     
  15. Hackerbilt
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    Maybe its just me, but I MUCH prefer the look of the parts on the left compared to the "high-tech" parts on the right.
    I just don't see a need for half the stuff people think make up a quality Hot Rod.
    The parts on the left just...belong...ya know!?!?
    Hope everything goes well for you Worn shoes! ;)
     
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    If those parts would've worked they could've stayed. But when you do look at the standard parts they have a nice and simple appeal. I hope it worked. Going outside in a few to see if I find anything wet.
     
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  17. blazedogs
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    Flaring brake line
    Off the subject a bit. I did all the brake lines on my 40, bought a quality flaring tool, asked a lot of questions,practiced on old pieces and ended up half leaked.. Was a disaster. Flaring takes a lot of practice if you are going to do it yourself have a quality flaring tool... Like body work it takes PRACTICE Gene
     
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  18. rfraze
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    The only obvious clue to the leak is on the left side of the T. Something is really wrong there. Looks like tube nut on backwards, then whatever is going on to the left of that. How about taking it apart, so everyone can learn what the problems were. Then you might send a link to this thread to Steve.
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  19. worn shoes
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    Went outside to check my work from yesterday. To be honest, I was hoping I would find something. No leaks, moisture, glimmer of wetness, I found nothing at all but a job well done :) when I took apart the AN fittings I found what I assume was the problem. It had a slight hairline but also a V rip at the tip of the flare. It must have also grooved the one side. I could feel it with my nail on the blue anodized male part. The other side had no groove as pictured. This could be seen with the naked eye. I used nothing but my 20/20 vision.
     
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  20. worn shoes
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    That other female nut is from the wheel cylinder. It slid back that's my fault with the pic. But the leak was from the left side. When he used the brass T it was from the rubber hose and that left side stainless line. That's when Mr. Jb weld was used.
     
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  21. 2OLD2FAST
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    Why would anyone , & I mean anyone consider using aluminum fittings for brakes ???
    dave
     
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  22. Rusty O'Toole
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    Congratulations on a good job well done. The Limeworks got outdone by a guy in a wheelchair. Hell from the looks of his work he could have been outdone by Stevie Wonder.

    Now you can drive with confidence knowing your brakes are not going to let you down.
     
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  23. worn shoes
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    Stevie="Rusty O'Toole, post: 11129378, member: 19893"]Congratulations on a good job well done. The Limeworks got outdone by a guy in a wheelchair. Hell from the looks of his work he could have been outdone by Stevie Wonder.

    Now you can drive with confidence knowing your brakes are not going to let you down.[/QUOTE]
    Stevie is on the HAMB too. He sent me a PM and it stated that if he wasn't on tour he would've stopped by to lend a hand.
     
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  24. Rusty O'Toole
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    Would be interesting to see your actual cost for parts to do the job RIGHT vs the bill from the Swiss watch maker.

    My guess would be right around $200 including the flaring tool.
     
  25. daddio211
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    To which I hope you replied "No thank you!"
     
  26. Just read the whole thread - I kept seeing it and wondered, how does someone get 9 pages of brake line advice?

    Looks like you're getting it back to what it should have been in the first place. It also looks like Steve@Slimejerks has a few left-over AN fittings, and the willingness to use them in the wrong application.

    I checked their website looking for the "buy 2 rolls of teflon tape, get a pack of JB weld for free" deal, but they were all sold out.
     
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  27. I worked for one of the largest brake parts manufacturer in the world for over 20 years as a sales rep. Teflon tape, aluminum fittings, JB Weld and poor workmanship are not part of any brake job under any circumstances. Glad you are getting it fixed. Trick of the week parts are not my style. Your back to basics approach is the best route in my opinion.
     
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  28. Good on YOU!!!!!
     
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  29. worn shoes
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    StevieE="daddio211, post: 11129398, member: 62453"]To which I hope you replied "No thank you!"[/QUOTE]
    Stevie Wonder who I was talking :) the blind dude that jams!
     
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  30. worn shoes
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    It was under $200 with tool and materials.
     
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