Technical *** August 2015 Banger Meet - August? Already? ***

Here is the banger link list .

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:

http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=6

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://www.centuryperformance.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:

http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:

http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


Chevy Banger Stuff

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/The-High-Speed-Internal-Combustion-Engine-Ricardo-1931

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

 

Getting the Zipper ready for Georgetown. Adjusted the valves and ditched the A-Ford-Able oil filter valve cover. Replacement valve cover came and it was for the early engines. Waiting for the correct one. One and four exhaust valves were not opening all the way. Set number four at .015" and number one at .013" to compensate for water flow.

 

Got the new body on my A and the first coat of paint down.

 

Denis could you post a photo please

 

Pulled the coupe out for a look while I cleaned inside the shop. Looking forward to the hill climb.


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August is here, All dressed up and no Speedweek at Bonneville to go ..........

 

Image by RoddyB34 posted Aug 2, 2015 at 6:58 PM

Image by RoddyB34 posted Aug 2, 2015 at 6:58 PM

Finally getting there with our 3 speed Toploader conversion ,,,just waiting for the shortened drive shaft and torque tube to come back from the machinist,,,so I can assemble the rear end and reinstall it ,,,

 

x2

 

As you can see in the upper left of the photo, the oil return tube is too long. My engine was built in May of 1931 and is considered a later model according to Steve at Bert's Model A.

 

denis4x4 I didn't realize there was a difference. Good information to know. Hope you get the part so you can make Georgetown.

 

There must be a shorter tube avaliable. Bring it over and I can shorten the tube if you run out of time before Georgetown.

 

Denis there are 2 different set up for oil return 28/29 has the oil return outlet higher and forward and uses the shorter return pipe
and 30/31 has the outlet lower and rearward and longer return pipe
the 30/31 engine also had revised oil dams in the valve chamber
I prefer to use the 28/28 valve cover and return pipe as it holds just that little bit more oil in the valve chamber for oil supply to main bearings
I have also just blocked off the 2 outlets without any problems

 

Has anyone received their July SOSS magazine?? Mine hasn't arrived yet.

 

Just got an email from Steve at Bert's and the correct valve cover is on its way

 

Are there official rules for what can run at TROG? I know you have to be invited, but was looking for guidelines. Didn't see any on their web site.

 

yes different tubes were made . just find the shorter one ..........

 

V4F
Member
from ca


I do realize this has been beatened to death , but not by me . has some here actually put a flat V8 in a model A coupe ?? I would like to talk to someone that has done it ..............
[email protected] ................. thank you ... steve

 

Started making a hood for the new Coupe. Hopefully get back on with the engine to go beneath it next month.

 

great car . what year ? are those ford wires ? .......... steve

 

One word ..... Elrod
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/elrod-model-a-coupe-thrash-flathead-v8-time.671975/

 

thanks . worked with him b 4

 

Yes mine came a couple of weeks ago. Charlies VW speedster is the main topic.

 

pistons survived over the bearings atleast!

 

anyone have good/bad experience with these?
https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/main-bearing-set-4022

 

Thanks 62pan, mine finally arrived today

 

I haven't used the Snyders bearings. However I think that if you are going to convert to shell bearings you need to consider that you will also need to buy thrust bearings, pay for machining for both, and in my opinion you need to convert to full pressure oil system and filter system... which involved drilling the crank and making oil tubes etc...
Poured babbitt bearings are soft and will absorb hard pieces of metal or carbon , but the shell bearings have much less bearing material backed with a steel shell which stops the debris from embedding below the bearing surface , the bigger pieces will hurt the crank .
I think it is much more economical to repair a Model A motor with a high quality Babbitt... and remember to change the oil regularly, and drive within rev limits etc... unless you are building an all out race motor.

 

all of the things you said here is on the list of things to do, this will be a touring motor for now that wil get a overheadvalve head later on, so its a race motor in street mode. so i need to know if the snyders bearings are any good or if i have to find somthing else

 

I know There are tons of aftermarket and repop options..... But what air cleaners originally came on a stock Stromberg 81?

 

an ugly one...oil bath...

 

I bought a set to put in my latest B engine. Unfortunately I haven't ben able to use them - it seems the block was originally line bored slightly askew and there's not enough material to machine out to match the shell back. The machining size for the one piece bearings is slightly less than the slant 4 Vauxhall big end shells. However I can't use those either despite having a set of those as well, so it's back to white metal on this block.