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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 57snrf, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. 57snrf
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    Those European guys got this deuce thing down dam good!
     
  3. 57snrf
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    From Denmark, a channeled Tudor
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    European Tudor (France) & American Tudor (Buellton, California)
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  7. 57snrf
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    It’s HERE! After 83 years in France, this is the first picture (sorry, not the best!) of my sedan in California, patiently waiting at the freight forwarder. Car travelled well. More info in a few days
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    LUCKY DEVIL
     
  10. chrisp
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    I was wondering is there any other Euro 32 in the US or yours is the only one?
     
  11. 57snrf
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    Not sure, Chris. Another (4-cylinder '32 B) sold a few years ago. I talked to the seller today (totally by accident!) and he isn't sure what happened to it. I don't know about any others.
     
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    Yesterday, picked up the ‘32 at the freight forwarder and dropped it off at Vintage V8 Restoration in Orange, CA where Charles Franklin will handle the chassis work. (Here is the car next to his shop in good company).
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    What's the plan Stan?
     
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  14. 57snrf
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    The plan? Rebuilt/repositioned steering box, '39 Ford gearbox (instead of '34), Lincoln front brakes, steel '40s Ford wheels, modified seat... A few little things!
     
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  16. 57snrf
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    Bare metal Tudor from France
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    From Sweden - The evolution of Stefan Sigfridsson's Tudor over the decades
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  21. DDDenny
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    Considering that I see myself as a card carrying hot rodder with little interest in restored cars, I look at photos of original Euro versions and think of all the possibilities.
    I'll be giving 57snrf a mental "thumbs up" every time I open this thread, as he has added a whole new dimension to the Deuce world that some of us never knew existed.
    Makes me want to hear some Jeff Beck.
     
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  22. clem
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    That visor and chop sure changes the overall look of that
    car, ... For the better!
     
  23. Gabalus
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    57snrf, my father has the same unrestored 32 Ford Tudor than you, but with a Model B engine. It runs great.
    I bought a disassembled 32 Fordor with the 40hp model BF engine and a 4.55: 1 rear axle.
    Also, I bought a Model B engine. I can read on it Ford and H near the water inlet. It have an aluminum oil pan, crankshaft counterweight, WWII German tag on the flywheel housing (army color all over :confused: ) ... BUT dippers on the rods.
    Could you help me? (Model? Year? Country? Spec? ...)
    Thank you.
     
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  24. Gabalus
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    I saw the same truck few years ago and I read on the Firewall tag : "AA4 Long".

     
  25. 57snrf
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    Thanks Dddenny! Just thought this topic might help a few.
    Gabalus: I honestly could not help... If you're on Facebook, please post on EURO DEUCES. I imagine some people might be able to help.
    Do you have pictures of you Model B!?
     
  26. 57snrf
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  27. 57snrf
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    From Germany. (Source: EURO DEUCES on Facebook)
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    Barn find in Germany
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    From the UK, Gary Kybert's Tudor
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  30. Bruce Lancaster
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    "Also, I bought a Model B engine. I can read on it Ford and H near the water inlet. It have an aluminum oil pan, crankshaft counterweight, WWII German tag on the flywheel housing (army color all over :confused: ) ... BUT dippers on the rods.
    Could you help me? (Model? Year? Country? Spec? ...)
    Just some guesses. The German B that has pressurized rods was the G28T, which translates as German (German Ford stuff was always labeled German rather than Deutsch even in Nazi era, because I think of Germany being used as the standard export marking for german goods) 1942 200 inch 4 cylinder. Most wartime german stuff, including v8's, used the 1942 revisions of the motors.
    Probably any parts carrying a number will show the G prefix.
    Ford Germany started making BB's in 1932, of course, and soon thereafter beacme a full factory making everything rather than assembling imported parts. Certainly by 1935 at least. BB's of the '32 type were made up to 1940 at least, and the engines were used ater the war in basically 1940-1942 trucks just like Wehrmacht and also in farm machines.
    Obviously the German B's started out just like USA and GB ones with dippers. There was at leat one series of B's carrying new german designation befoer the 1942 changes...I ran into that number in a wartime parts catalog. I need to go look, can't remember it, but I think it indicated a late 1930's revision...something like G98T. I will try to find that tonight. So at least two versions of german B's existed before the G28T, and I have no idea what the 1930's revision involved yet! I'd love to see pictures as your engine comes apart.
    Look for any numbers in castings, and possible stamped date codes on things like generator and starter.

    The "H" on the block...cast or stamped? I wonder if it might designate Heer for a military engine?? I have heard of serials stamped with prefixes possibly marked with miltary designations. What is stamped in the serial pad right above the water hole??
     
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