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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pennafxu, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. pennafxu
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    So caster is measured from the top of the kingpin?

    The stops were in reference to the side arc... not up and down...


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  2. manyolcars
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    no, I measure off of the kingpins before mounting the spindle
     
  3. pennafxu
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    Ok I'm confused... What is this in reference to?


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  4. alchemy
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    Caster can be set by piecutting the wishbone if the back end of the wishbone would hang too low otherwise.
     
  5. pennafxu
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    Which I believe I have done... Correct?
     
  6. pennafxu
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    Got the new front spring in... ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422153576.126354.jpg
    Hooked up front end ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422153605.344678.jpg teflon ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422153630.165696.jpg
     
  7. pennafxu
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    Rear suspension ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422153708.286406.jpg ever other spring out ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422153733.056686.jpg
    Rear end still sitting a little low in my estimation... ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422153792.496359.jpg will putting the other springs in raise the rear end?
     
  8. pennafxu
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    Back to the panhard ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154107.547409.jpg double shear mount... ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154213.257325.jpg tacking ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154234.092236.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154256.129496.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154280.262506.jpg
     
  9. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154373.420338.jpg lower tack ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154406.739418.jpg other side ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154428.662134.jpg tabs ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154517.751070.jpg
     
  10. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154861.211967.jpg bar ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154894.114190.jpg end ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422154972.870977.jpg mount ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422155022.944466.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422155056.027898.jpg position of ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422155056.027898.jpg bar
     
  12. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422156439.806919.jpg
    Will bend this 40-45deg
     
  14. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422156490.694787.jpg
    In the vice ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422156509.227891.jpg inner drift ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422156525.328907.jpg pipe...
    Will heat and bend this
     
  15. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422156633.457537.jpg will notch the frame... To accept this structural support ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422156684.859303.jpg
     
  16. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422223460.040949.jpg popped in the DL ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422223548.088117.jpg trans ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422223688.120042.jpg side ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422223702.071391.jpg chassis ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422223716.074919.jpg
     
  17. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422224221.809989.jpg sitting even ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422224234.444627.jpg front ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422224251.546165.jpg mounts
     
  18. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422224540.945320.jpg will mount these more aft
     
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  20. alchemy
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    I would advise against that front mount configuration. They will be too close together, and the engine will rock a LOT. Build some small brackets off the water pumps that place the biscuits at the outside frame rails. Or, trade those water pumps for some with the mounting legs on the sides and the no small brackets required. There are TONS of pics on the HAMB of similar mounts.
     
  21. pennafxu
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    Ok fair enough... I have seen other mounts similar to these up front?? Are they also wrong?
     
  22. alchemy
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    A stock Model A (and '32-34 four cylinders) has similar mounts, but it also has mounts at the sides of the bellhousing to keep the engine from rocking. Same deal on a '55 Chevy. Unless you are gonna build side mounts on your bellhousing, you need a wider stance on the front.
     
  23. pennafxu
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    Like mounting ears on the housing? Ps do u have any links to those pics as I searched until I was blue in the face... And came up with this style as a last resort of sorts...
     
  24. alchemy
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    Here's some pics in this thread of the style pumps you should buy, and the mount you should make.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/8ba-flathead-question-help-bruce.69604/#post-850454

    The other alternative is to make a small tab (maybe 1.5" by 5" with 1/4" thickness) with a 45 degree bend in it that will bolt to the bottom of the pumps you have, and then come up to the sides and rest on top of the biscuits. I had seen a thread somewhere on the HAMB within the last year, but can't find it now.
     
  25. pennafxu
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    Thank you for your input! And advice (with a legit reason behind your reasoning) I will follow your advice and go with door #2... 1/4" is thick enough in your opinion?
     
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  26. alchemy
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    Could always go with 3/8 if you like.

    You know what I'd do, I'd borrow a pair of old pumps with the leg already on them, and make my tab match that location. So if you ever wear the current pumps out, you can replace them with the pumps that have built-in legs. Less parts = less clutter. Less clutter = more better.
     
  27. pennafxu
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    Rough sketch of my mount idea... ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422464362.858192.jpg
    Will strengthen 45deg angles with a brace also...
     
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  28. volvobrynk
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    Looks beautiful and a little to the complicated side.
     
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  29. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465007.803940.jpg chopped some stock ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465029.222698.jpg punched ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465046.023740.jpg drilling ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465063.259823.jpg basic holes ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465086.311444.jpg stepped up to 7/16" ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465110.962802.jpg
     
  30. pennafxu
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465274.195856.jpg the bolt fits for the biscuit mount... ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465317.064330.jpg quick fit to the pumps ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465351.901678.jpg need 45deg back bends here ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465381.402878.jpg quick reference ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465406.754686.jpg back cut and bent with precision... Makes a good V groove for weld ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465449.058862.jpg in situ.. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465464.559908.jpg side view ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465489.613049.jpg front ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422465515.914715.jpg
     

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