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VIN #s' 1933 Ford - Have ?'s

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 392HEMI4SPEED, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. 392HEMI4SPEED
    Joined: May 3, 2007
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    392HEMI4SPEED
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    from Wisconsin

    First question, where should I look on my 1933 Ford 5 Window to find the VIN#. I know where to find it all over the 60's to 70's Fords but not the 33 I have here.

    Now I do not have the car stored at my house, so I cannot look at it at this time, but I do have the title. The VIN# on the title reads
    405000. Now I do not think there were 405,000 of these babies made, so do you think this is the 405th 1933 Ford 5W made?
     
  2. turdytoo
    Joined: May 14, 2007
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    I'm gonna say the 40 is for model 40 and so on such as 18- or b-.
     
  3. ...number should be on top of framerail near steering box; should be a star shaped stamp first ,then the no. then another star.
     
  4. ss34coupe
    Joined: May 13, 2007
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    ss34coupe
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    rusty 1 has it right. the VIN is stamped into the left framerail (topside) just before the cowl. At least that is the stock location. If your car has been re-registered, a number could be stamped just about anywhere.
     
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  5. 392HEMI4SPEED
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    392HEMI4SPEED
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    from Wisconsin

    The last registration was in 1991 but it was never made road worthy before or after that time. Before 1991, the guy that I bought it from had the original title from 1933, but the DMV would not let him keep it and issued him a new one in 1991. I'm curious if anyone can break down what the VIN# is. Interested in if it is, or parts of it is, a consecutive unit number.
     
  6. Randy P
    Joined: Oct 3, 2006
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    Randy P
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    from Austin, TX

    Ford started the V8 sequence of serial numbers in 1932 and carried that sequence for a number of years. The "18-" is just a prefix and designates it as a V8 chassis, the numbers after the dash are the sequential serial number. The first 1932 Ford V8 started at "18-1" and went through "18-212238". The first 1933 Ford V8 started at "18-561592". Your title with the sequential serial number of "405000", or as the frame is probably stamped "18-405000", was produced by Ford in July of 1933. As with most early Ford stuff, it wasn't always consistent and there were some '33s and '34s that were stamped with a "40-" prefix instead of the 18, to designate the 1933-34 Model 40 as opposed to the Model 18 for the Deuce V8. I'm not exactly sure when Ford eliminated the 18 prefix but it was some time after 1939 or 1940. Hope this makes sense to you. The 4 cylinder serial numbers were a whole different ballgame, as they sort of continued the Model A sequential numbers. I say sort of because there were slightly less than 5,000,000 Model A's built but the serial numbers for 1932 4 cylinders began at 5,000,000 on November 29 of 1931. Most of this information is from the book "The Early Ford V8 as Henry Built It, a Production Facts Book 1932-38" by Edward Francis and Beverly DeAngelis. They credit their source as actual Ford production records. So, it appears that your title has a correct 1933 serial number on it.
     
  7. Bruce Lancaster
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    Bruce Lancaster
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    The "18" prefix lasted as long as the 221 engine in USA production, until 1942 and presumably through the war. Starting in 1939 and then through 1948, any vehicle with a 239 got a 99 in the prefix. After 239 became standard across the lines, they added in a letter to indicate Ford, truck, or Merc chassis, and late ones got a year number. 799A would be a '47 239 Ford passenger.
    Aside from engine type and sequence of production number, there is NO other info in a Ford number except for the extra letter and number stuff used after the 239 came along. Fords after 1948 got a serial plate with the beginnings of modern type info on plant, body, etc.
     
  8. Rusty Springs
    Joined: Dec 3, 2007
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    Rusty Springs
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    from SouthTexas

    Thanks for the info Latemodel34 on serial numbers....

    Rusty
     

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