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Tech Tip 309... Rusty Screw Removal Made Easy

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by SamIyam, Dec 11, 2003.

  1. Toymont
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    I have been trying to remove the hinge screws on my Stude truck cab with no luck when Chaz sent me the link to this thread. Stude trucks have a large fine thread slot head screw in the hinges
     

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  2. Toymont
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    The head on these screws is 5/8 inches wide. well I thought, why not just grind the chisle bit for my air chisle down to fit the screw? I also had no welder to attach a handle to the bit, plus the fact that I did not think a fixed handle would work in a tight space.
    My solution was to use some vise grips on the bit to turn it
     

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  3. Toymont
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    This worked to a point on the top hinge but I found with the vibration that the vise grips slipped and you need a steady turn to loosen these things.
    I then ground flat spots on four sides of the bit shaft to get a better grip,
    This worked for awhile, then I discovered that the flat sides I made fit a 5/8 open end wrench perfectly, this gave me steady turning pressure.
    Believe me these things were stubborn, but with steady pressure plus the ratt a tatting of the impact they eventually turned loose. The other thing neat about this is that if the bit starts to slip a little just use the chissleing action without turning to reset the bit into the head of the screw
     

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  4. Toymont
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    correction the open end wrench that fit the shaft was 7/16 not 5/8

    Also the bottom hinge on Stude trucks has a 90 in it and the last screw mounts verticle thru the step. This is the only one that is still giving me trouble cause it seems they are not captured nuts, so it seemed like they were loose but the whole thing was turning,. There is a hole to reach these with a socket, so I think if I get someone to hold the socket we can either get these loose or just break them off. Overall this system worked great and /i thank Sam for posting it and Dodgerodder for bringin it back to the top to be found. This place is just amazing
     

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  5. rev383
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    This is easily tip number 1 in my book.... it works too well. THANKS!!!!!
     
  6. 40Standard
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    great tip!! thanks
     
  7. What timing! I just broke a few tips removing screws from rear drums on an old Spitfire roadster. {It will be sold to pay for some machine tools} That tool may have saved a bunch of time. Guess I'll build one soon.
    Thanks, Sam!
     
  8. rev383
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    I was rummageing around Home Depot last night and found a set of three 3/8 extensions with a positive retention feature on the end. I'll machine the end down to fit in my air hammer and attach a handle. Will look and work a little more pro. My 5 minute fab job will look good hanging on my tool wall and still get used.

    http://www.mcmaster.com/ has various bits for most types of screws, along with every kind of screw, nut, bushing, assorted hardware, tools and equipment we could need. I buy tons of stuff for work and usually have what I ordered the next day. They define customer service. I'm ordering clutch tips tonight to start on those screws next.

    Thank for wisdom and kicking this off!!! Cross pollination across various industries is great.
     
  9. huh..

    hmm..

    I'll be damned..

    Awesome idea! I have a lotta spare air hammer shit, I'm gonna have to make one of these asap.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. AHotRod
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    Great idea, got to make me one.
     
  11. 50shoe
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    I have to bump this thread up. I was fighting my shoebox door hinge screws on weds night, 2 screws removed in 2 hours with the old impact driver. :(

    came inside, pissed off and found this thread.

    $25 air hammer and a $10 at the depot this am and in 2 hours I had my tool welded up and 16 screws removed, I can not believe how well this works!!!!!!!

    anybody used it on hed bolts/nuts? just weld a 3/8 socket adapter in place of the 3/8 of 5/16 socket?

    any how now I can adjust my doors!!!!

    viva la HAMB!

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  12. Circus Bear
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    Damn I wish I had seen this earlier this week.
     
  13. Haywood
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    What's the chances this would work on clutch-head screws???

    I HATE those bastards!!!!:rolleyes:
     
  14. Toymont
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    It will probably work just as well, you will just have to make the bit, nice thing about it is you can put alot of pressure on i.
     
  15. 1927Tudor
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    great idea.. makin' one tonite.... another old trick for stuck fasteners of all description is to put some (not a lot) of heat to the head, remove heat, apply paraffin wax... the liquid wax will flow down the fastener and work as a lubricant when you attempt to remove... :D
     
  16. Corn Fed
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    Weird that this thread popped up again. Last week I again used the tool that I made after Sam 1st posted it. And just this week I was trying to explain to another Hamber over the phone what the tool looked like.

    Still one of the best tricks I've seen on the HAMB.
     
  17. Jalopy Joker
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    great info-Thanks
     
  18. Flatheaded
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    I made one too and used it on 3 sets of hinges so far. Works slicker than shit. Excellent tech!
     
  19. greaser57
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    Works slicker than sheeeeeeeet........Rich
     
  20. redlinetoys
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    Great tip. THANKS!!!
     
  21. 18n57
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    I had never seen this thread, but I'm gonna go home and make one...!!! Thanks jalopy Joker..!!
     
  22. bobkatrods
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    Those things have been around the aircraft industry since i started working on aircraft in 1970, you should have got one 999 screws ago.
     
  23. Made one on Saturday, using a 1/2" socket adapter on the end and a piece of a ubolt for the handle. Now I can swap tips and the bend in the handle is nice and comfy on my girlyman hands :D

    Worked like a freakin' charm...

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  24. pardner
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    Awesome tip! Thanks for all of the modifications and suggestions as well.
     
  25. spooler41
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    I built one of these about 5 years ago,used a 1/4" extension so I could 1/4" socket to run
    1/4' screw driver bits. this bad boy saved my butt many,many times. I also did the same a 1/2'' drive extension, and it works as well as the small one.

    ..................Jack
     
  26. norms30a
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    Here's mine.Stumbled across the thread about 6 months ago.
     

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  28. rschilp
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    Made one yesterday to remove some huge flathead screws from a Jaguar e-type conv left outside for numerous years.

    Wow what a great tool
     
  29. Moes49f1
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    Thanks for the tip... I will be making one in the next day or two...
     

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