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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. 69tincanfairlane
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  2. Paul Ceasrine
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    Fact or Fiction;
    Did Oldsmobile make a 1970 Cutlass called 'Rallye'.
    With a 350/310 HP engine.
    Had a big-flap rear spoiler on the trunk deck-lid.
    pc
     
  3. 69tincanfairlane
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    This one was at Mecum auction last January.

    -Joe

    Lot F249 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass Rallye 350 Coupe
    350/310 HP, Automatic

    DESCRIPTION

    Available only in brilliant Sebring Yellow and offered for only one year, the Rallye 350 is one of the most readily identifiable and rarest of all performance-oriented Oldsmobiles. The numbers-matching example offered here has been expertly restored to original delivery condition. Like all Rallye 350s, it is powered by Oldsmobile’s torquey 350/310 HP engine fed by twin fresh-air scoops, here backed by a 350 Turbo automatic.
    The car's Sebring Yellow paint correctly covers the bumpers and wheels and is trimmed with matte Black accent striping and "Rallye 350" graphics, while the typically luxurious Olds interior is fitted with bucket seats and console, four-spoke Sport steering wheel, burled wood trim and air conditioning. Dr. Oldsmobile would be very pleased!

    Highlights:

    - Numbers matching 350/310 HP engine
    - Original owner's manual and Protect-O-Plate
    - Fully restored to original delivery condition
    - Power steering
    - Power brakes
    - Factory air conditioning
    - Bucket seats with floor console
    - Very rare Rally 350 coupe
    - Magnificent Sebring Yellow with matching Yellow wheels
    - Automatic transmission
     
  4. 67 W-30
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    Affectionaltely known as a "Tweety-Bird" car!! a rare "bird" indeed!!
     
  5. 69tincanfairlane
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    That's funny... this color Olds is one of my first memories of American muscle cars. The summer of 1980, a guy owned one a few doors down from where I lived. He was always working/tuning it in his garage... I was five years old at the time and all I remember is that striking yellow paint, the spoiler, and those distinctive chrome "spout" exhaust tips. Oh, and the growl that came out of them.

    Jeez... must of made a lasting impression on me to remember that!:D

    O.K. Now back to the stockers!:D

    -Joe
     
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  6. JrFuel
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    Joe Dude,
    I think it's awesome that you even have an interest in these cars / classes... keep your questions coming...

    It gives us old farts an excuse to think back to the "good old days" and how it used to be. :D

    Larry
     
  7. Paul Ceasrine
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    Thanks for posting that info on the 1970 Oldsmobile "Rallye 350".

    I see it came through with the #L-74 350/310 HP engine,
    and not the W-31.
    Mr. Colesy, I would agree, that car is 'Kinda' "tartered up'
    pc
     
  8. 69tincanfairlane
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    Thanks Larry!

    I'll keep 'em coming and here are a few.:D

    I'm building my 1969 Fairlane as if it were to be raced in the 1970 season. Yeah, probably not the perfect candidate for a Junior Stock build but, I'm not made of $, and I work with what I have. I'm trying to get this car to be authentic and correct as possible... (I've always "sweat the details" in my builds!)

    First, the car is a 1969 Ford Fairlane, 351w/290 H.P. 2dr Fastback, automatic. Shipping weight I believe to be 3350 lbs. 11.55 would put me in H-stock class for the 1969 or '70 seasons? I tried to figure this out a while ago, but that was with limited year and class knowledge and tid bits from this thread.

    Secondly, did the rules change drastically from season to season as far as raising the front end of a stocker? The second two pictures I have posted are of the NHRA 1969 rule book. Clearly states no lifting! But the last pic I have posted is from a 1966 Hot Rod magazine article featuring the Casler/Cossey car. Clearly using spring spacers and raising the front end for weight transfer.:confused: It's just strange to me that NHRA got more strict on front end lift rules 3 years later.

    I currently have 2.5" ball joint spacers installed along with the coil spring spacers pictured for a 3" total lift. I installed these parts about 3 years ago to resolve tall front tire clearance issues and before my car went in the "Junior Stock" direction. I'm not considering removing these parts even if "not correct" because they give the car a killer stance. I'll overlook the details on this one.;)

    Lastly, were ball joint spacers of any height ever allowed in any year Junior Stock competition? Aluminum or iron?

    Thanks guys!

    -Joe
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2010
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    Joe. I ran ball joint spacers in my 55, along with 90/10 front shocks.
     
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    Thanks Kentuckian and Cosley for the reminder of Rick Jones. I traveled with him from about the spring of 74 when he was campaigning the 66 for a couple of years on his own, building the engines himself and still setting records. He later went on to run a SS (67) Camaro and then a SS 55 Chev. Henry.
     
  12. Eracer
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    Joe, I live real close, Jackson, WI. My Dad had this 69 in 1974 -76. 428CJ car that set the G/SA record in 1974. This car won a bunch of races in what was the United Stockers Assoc.

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    Jackson huh? Close indeed.

    There's nothing like a great running FE engine!:D I'm assuming the red conv't top car in the later posted pics is formerly known as NEMESIS? Awesome car!

    Thanks for adding the pics. I love that "Just in Time" car. I'm partial to fastbacks.:D

    Just for S&G's... when did the Amber Green Dragway close?

    -Joe
     
  24. 69tincanfairlane
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    Okay... since we're on a Ford Fairlane kick...

    I have a Junior Stock tribute car. Work in progress.

    The engine is currently getting "Junior Stocked"! Stock spec camshaft and 290 hp 351 Windsor engine will be installed this February. Other plans are a Hughes 2500 stall converter, comp shift kit, and 4.56:1 rear gears also next spring. Hopefully back on the road by mid May.

    Keep you posted!

    -Joe
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2010
  25. I ran these on my '62 406/405hp sedan. A friend ran Firestone Butyliers (sp?) on all four corners of his '63 327/300hp, 4-speed Impala so they would not be conspicuous to opponents on the street. They wore-out extremely fast though. These Butyl tires were the "poor man's" slick, but they were a lot better than any street tires at the time.
    As I recall,Atlas and Firestone made these for street use with the claim that they didn't screech and squeal when cornering as other tires did. As usual, "hotrodders" found alternative use for them.:D
     
  26. Eracer
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    Not closed Joe, Just converted to Rock Falls Raceway. Al Corda bought it in the the early 80's?
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  27. 69tincanfairlane
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    Great to know!

    I just saved their website to my favorites.:)

    I'll have to go see the action next season.

    -Joe
     
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  28. JrFuel
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    I'm back to looking at wheels for my project...

    It seems that American Racing (now Wheel Pros) is having issues (their words) in making some of their standard sizes (back spacing is critical)....

    What do you guys think of these Radirs?

    Joe (Allread) had a pair of Fenton Hawks (?) on the front of the wagon during construction,
    the Radirs are kinda like those...

    I'll still be going with 15x4 fronts and 15x7 rear....

    already got my tires...

    7.10 BFGoodrich - fronts & M&H Jr.Stocker 7" Cheater Slicks - rears

    (i really like the looks on this hi-po galaxie post).

    Larry
     

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  29. twotoejoe
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    I love your Radirs. I've had them on the front of my 65 GTO for a couple of years now. Same size, 15x4.
     

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  30. 69tincanfairlane
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    Bummer on the American Racing TTO idea Larry. Those wheels are very similar looking to the ones that were on the Joe Allread stocker.:(

    The Radirs are cool and they do have "the look". I have considered them for past projects, but I always thought they were just too pricey.

    Have you seen these E-T Classic 5's from Team III Wheels? Maybe their offsets will work for you.:)

    Here's a link. http://www.etwheels.com

    -Joe
     
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