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Discussion in 'HA/GR' started by Third DodgeBrother, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. Third DodgeBrother
    Joined: Apr 18, 2009
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    I don't usually do build logs until I'm done, because my builds have a tendancy to wander off into left field and fade away. Counting on you guys to keep me straight, and help through the rough spots. A kick in the rear, or a pat on the head as needed.

    Where I'm at:

    Got the stone axe [300 Ford six] unloaded and undressed

    Shaved the brackets on the S10 posi rear

    Ordered a stick of 1 1/2" x 3" x 3/16" tube. Steel yard looking for 6" pipe drops for driveshaft loops and gonad guard.

    Axle, spindles, split wishbones: due Weds, spring shipped.

    Tin seat, fuel cell, and vega steering box ready

    NHRA rulebook on order

    Pictures to follow
     
  2. Old6rodder
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    Cool, another one under way. :cool:

    Don't forget to send me some specifics and a picture when you're ready, so I can add yours to the photo & info thread.
    Yes, parts piles & intentions do qualify for the thread. :D
     
  3. Old28
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    Glad to see that we have another SDRA car being built. As I have said many time on my thread, I do pictures better than writing ;) so the more the better. Are you going to run a C-4, C-6 or a glide for a trans?

    One of the group in the Pacific Northwest cars is running a 300 Ford. If I recall he was running 11.50 - 11.75 with pie cut nostalgia slicks. Would love to see what it would run on 6" street tires.

    Remember "Pictures, Pictures, Pictures" :):):)
     
  4. Third DodgeBrother
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    Pictures as promised
     

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  5. Old28
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    Looks like a good start on parts. I like those mid 30's wide five spindles and wheel. :)

    Are you going to modify that intake and run 6 one barrels?:D

    Keep us all in the loop as we love to see a build move forward.
     
  6. Third DodgeBrother
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    I thought I was going to run a C6, unfortunately I couldn't tell the difference between C6 and E4OD. I can now! I'll have to see how the guys in Tulsa feel about stand-alone tranny-control computers.

    I'd love to go with stacked fuel injection on this motor, but ... that isn't quite within the rules either. Seems like a natural spot for a homemade box plenum type manifold. I've got a pair of Holly/Weber progressive two barrels that might be legal. I'm not sure what four barrel I could use.

    The wheel is swap meet '39, on a modern JFZ wide five hub, borrowed for mock up from Miss Enid (my avatar). I've been looking forever for the adapter snouts to Ford spindles, without any luck. Plan B is empty Ford wide five hubs and drums, like Marty Strode used.
     

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  7. ThingyM
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    I got a set of those..
     
  8. CrkInsp
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    DodgeBrother, Wish I could say you could run that trany, BUT sorry, no computors.
    Yes, you can run those carbs. Most any 4bbl. carb is ok. I think a vac. sec. carb has a lot of advantages in launching the car to prevent wheel spin. Thanks for asking your questions as they help other people wanting to build these cars.
     
  9. Third DodgeBrother
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    ThingyM : PM sent.

    Plan C is repop Ford hubs with space saver spares!

    Anyone need an E4OD?
     
  10. Third DodgeBrother
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    Axle arrived. Stone axe on dolly. Off to Goodguys Lonestar. Hopefully will be able to steal some ideas, and score some swap meet treasure.
     

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  11. Kenneth S
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    Run a 1972-78 C4 that was behind a 302, or 351W, the C4 eats less HP than a C6, or E4OD
     
  12. Third DodgeBrother
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    The Seven Point Frame Program

    -Get stick of 1 1/2" x 3" x 3/16" tube ($74.00) Check
    -Cut in half Check
    -Add cross members
    -Cage mock-up, order hoops
    -Weld hoops
    -Fab and install brackets
    -Leave on the last yellow

    The Acme gas rail kit
     

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  13. 64 DODGE 440
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    The tubing looks good sitting on the roll cage like that.:p
     
  14. Third DodgeBrother
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    Amen, brother. Do you ever get tempted, to section out the center third of your bucket, and just forget all about tinwork?
     

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  15. Joe Hamby
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    How old are you? The first two Dodge Brothers both died in 1920. We have a 27 Dodge coupe sitting in my friends shop, with a 53 Chrysler hemi in it. the owner died last summer. It is for sale by his wife, I think it is or was on Craigs list (Tulsa). We hope that you will race with us in Tulsa.

    If I had your E-Mail, I could send pictures. not trying to sell, just thought that you might like to see them. Joe
     
  16. Third DodgeBrother
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    I'm 61. I only feel old enough to have died in 1920! I plan on racing in Tulsa, but then, at my age, I'm too old to plan buying green bananas!
     
  17. 64 DODGE 440
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    Damn Kids! I'll be 66 in April. You are only old if you make your mind up to be old. I may be growing older, but I damn well refuse to grow UP! Keep at the build, it will help keep you young.:D
     
  18. ThingyM
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    Sh--t You guys are still kiddies,, I'll be 77 in a few months. But 47 at heart..Still thinking as to what I should put in my chassis for an engine,, But it will be SDRA allowed engine and trans..
     
  19. Old6rodder
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    Yeah, I still have a hard time keeping the snot wiped off my nose. :p

    Thingy, I'm glad you're keeping the car. The SDRA guys out here can use another racer, and you're a good one. I'm looking forward to lining up with you again.

    3DB, your parts pile's looking like it might just become a car. :cool:

    Gentlemen (and you too, Thingy :D), every HAMBster built (whether HA/GR or SDRA) helps both classes. :cool:
     
  20. 64 DODGE 440
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    You have the right attitude Dick, Peter Pan is a good role model. Find the engine and trans you want and get back at it. Racing keeps us young!
     
  21. bobw
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    Nice to see the young guys getting interested in these cars. You're off to a good start.

    Keep the pics coming, eh?
     
  22. Third DodgeBrother
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    Picked up a C4, which turned out to be a C5(E2)! WTF! Chilton and HPbooks and Haynes don't agree on terminology, so why should we. C5 is supposed to have stronger case and better oiling.. But it also has lock-up converter. One rebuilder's slogan is "C5 tough with C4 stuff!"

    Goodguys Lonestar was a disappointment! Nothing of interest in the swap meet, and not much in the show area. Numbers: Last year 300+ pictures, this year 61, and most of them cars I had seen before. I guess I'm just not much interested in stuff "circa me" (1966+). I don't think I'll attend another GG, UNLESS Miss Enid gets ready for a run through the cones.

    C4/C5 vs C6/E4OD
     

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  23. Old28
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    Your collecting parts a rocket speed, you will have this baby running in no time. In a few years you won't see anything but "Rice Burners" at a GG show and the old cars will be early 2000 model.

    We love pictures!!!!!
     
  24. Kenneth S
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    It looks like you have a C4 (the dipstick tube goes into the trans case), while the dipstick tube on a C5 screws into the side of the oil pan.
     
  25. ThingyM
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    You are correct Kenneth,, I run a C4 in my altered. Art Carr says it's good for 1000 hp. And I believe it..God only knows how many runs on it, No breakage...
     
  26. Third DodgeBrother
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    Yes you're right: It doesn't have the pan-fill dipstick tube, so it is not the '75 built C5 with C5 casting number.

    No you're wrong: It has the E2 casting number, which makes it the C5 of '82 through '86.

    I've seen horsepower ratings from 450 to 1000: I don't anticipate any problems, with this motor, at least, without turbo and nitrous!

    On the Tulsa spec tire: What is the Coker part number? What is the height of an L78-15 mounted on six inch rim?
     
  27. Old28
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    There is no spec tire in the SDRA Tulsa Rules. You can run the Coker L78 Bias tire that is 29" high on 6"rim or you can run a radial tire that has a 6" wide tread, I am going to run Cooper 235R-15 radials that are 28 1/2" high. I think you will find the Coker L-78 are about $100 more than a good radial that should hook better. Its your choice as long as they are 6" wide. Only HA/GR cars have to run a bias tire and most are Coker L-78.
    No cheater slicks.
     
  28. bobw
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    I use G78-15 bias tires that have a 6" wide tread. They came off a restored Chevy truck that the guy was upgrading. Point is, there's some options regarding tires.
     
  29. Third DodgeBrother
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    Honest, I wasn't trying to restart the tire debate, just looking for a measurement for mock-up. Actually, running out of Texarkana, I'd deserve to be shot, if I ran anything other than Cooper!
     
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  30. Old28
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    Third DodgeBrother --We new you were just asking but some times we give to much information. Some call it rattling on.:D
     

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