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Technical Mallory or MSD?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 612DOR, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. 612DOR
    Joined: Jan 22, 2017
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    612DOR

    I am in need of a mechanical advance dizzy for my 51 Flattie. I have a line on a Mallory 275E but it is about $400. Should I go this route or "modernize"? Engine is dead stock except for dual 97's and it will have headers.

    Thanks!!
     
  2. Call Bubba's hot rod shop.Best deal going,in the HAMB-ODEX.
     
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  3. fullhouse296
    Joined: Jan 30, 2009
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    Try a pertronix drop in do_dad . they replace the points and work fine .roundeybout 160 clams .
     
  4. Ditto on the PerTronix (but then again I work for a division on them LOL)

    I want to see more pics of your Falcon!
     
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  5. flatford39
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    I am going the mallory route. It just looks so much better in there than the alternatives. Hope I can get it to work. But that's hot rodding isn't it.
     
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  6. Atwater Mike
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    I use Mallory, but I've got a lot of 'em... Call Bubba. He's right there in Mallory, probably half price of what you were 'quoted'.
     
  7. gimpyshotrods
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    Just be aware, Mallory no longer exists.

    That's not to say you cannot get parts, but it might affect your ability to get them in the future.

    MSD (who acquired the rights to the brand) appears to be supporting some products, for now.

    Make sure you can get the parts that you need, and stock up, if you can.
     
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  8. car doctor
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    I put a pertronix in mine and it works great, real easy to install.
     
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  9. And since Holley bought MSD, who knows what that future may be
     
  10. gimpyshotrods
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    The Great Brand Consolidation presses on. There is no telling what will disappear next.
     
  11. I am pro-MSD. But with a disclaimer My stuff is 18 years old on one car and the other is 1 year old.
     
  12. Atwater Mike
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    Just hope the Hoffman Group doesn't get ahold of it!:eek:
    @Gimpy, I'm aware of that...it gets worse by the day.

    My son uses MSD, I've worked on friends' stuff with Pertronics. Good stuff when it performs.
    MSD is similar to the BMW electronics I was familiar with...but a spike wreaks havoc on the MSD. (more than a few experiences...)
    "When it is good it is very, very good;
    But when it is bad...it is horrid!"
    Some things you just never forget:

    When I was very young, an older woman 'had her way' with me...I never had the chance to thank her.:p
     
  13. saltflats
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    What is wrong with points?
     
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  14. Atwater Mike
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    Nothing! The crux here is, "Can you still get 'em?" Mallory parts are harder to find lately. The main source (Mallory Electric Corp.) has been bought and sold, and the last 'owners' have been less than enthused about mfg. obsolete stock.
    Some former dealers have parts left, but they are disappearing...
     
  15. jimmy six
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    What's wrong with the points ends up being the condenser as long as you can get an NOS or NOS replacement from someone like Blue Point. The ones available now are Chinese junk. It's why many of use have gone to the Pertronix which at least for me have been foolproof and everything looks stock if that's the look you want. Good luck.
     
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  16. Go with the Pertronix unit, I've got it in my 53 IH R130 and it works like a charm. I also have a half a dozen of them in my tractors on the farm. Beats the heck out of points. Try the Brillman Company for the Pertronix units. I paid less than $100 for each of mine.


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  17. 61Tudor
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    Lots of advice to go with Pertronix. I need to get away from the loadmatic as I am running dual carbs. I need the mechanical advance so must change the whole unit. I have been to Bubbas site and while I have only heard good things, I don't really want a Chev unit powering my Ford. As far a the Mallory stuff goes, I just saw a 4004 cap on Ebay for stupid money. $169!!! That will be a problem down the road. I am using a Crane optical trigger in my Cleveland which works very well, but it's all tucked in the original distributor. I still need mechanical advance!!
     
  18. 61Tudor
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    Attached Files:

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  19. 61Tudor
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    It's a 61, 351C4V, T5, 8.8, 3:73 L!
     
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  20. NICE!
     
  21. 612DOR
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    612DOR

    Thanks!!
     
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  22. alchemy
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    Around here you can buy SBC two-piece cap Mallorys, even with a tach drive if you want, for $50 at most swap meets. Send it to Bubba for machining and recurving, and you will have the best of both worlds. Old looks and good old parts, not new Chinese stuff. Then pick up a couple more SBC Mallorys for spare parts at the next swap meet.
     
  23. Reminds me of one that was in Peterson's Complete Ford Book back in 1973. Sorry about the crappy scan, didn't fit in the scanner very well ;)
    Boss 351 Falcon.JPG
     
  24. 612DOR
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    612DOR

    I have that very article in an engine swapping book!
     
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  25. Atwater Mike
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    Good stuff makes the rounds...
     
  26. gimpyshotrods
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    Um, where are the vent windows on that?
     
  27. Petejoe
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    Something I've learned that most do not know.
    There is actually one 97 that has Venturi ported vacuum.
    There is a later version of the 97 that has a port for venturi vacuum. It reads Elmira NY on bowl and usually has a blank circle, ie no 97.
    These were made for stromberg at Elmira.
     
  28. One piece window conversions are nothing new .....
     
  29. gimpyshotrods
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    Oh sure, I have just never seen them on a Falcon.

    Of course, now I want it.
     
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  30. That white Falcon from the magazine is a big part of why I decided to build one! I've been drooling over that build since '73
     

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