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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dmarv, Sep 8, 2006.

  1. dmarv
    Joined: Oct 10, 2005
    Posts: 977

    dmarv
    Alliance Vendor
    from Exeter, CA

    Here is a of brake part numbers for 1939-1948 Ford cars that can be found at your local auto parts store. No more blank stares when you ask for these parts. Just give the guy/gal/pimpled face kid, behind the counter the part number!

    1939-1948 Left rear wheel cylinder CarQuest/EIS # EW156002
    1939-1948 Right rear wheel cylinder CarQuest/EIS # EW156003
    1942-1948 Left front wheel cylinder CarQuest/EIS # EW156000
    1942-1948 Right front wheel cylinder CarQuest/EIS # EW156001
    1939-1941 Front wheel cylinder repair kit CarQuest/EIS # C552
    1942-1948 Front wheel cylinder repair kit CarQuest/EIS # C568
    1939-1948 Rear wheel cylinder repair kit CarQuest/EIS # C554
    1939-1948 Front brake hose CarQuest/EIS # SP296
    1939-1948 New brake master cylinder CarQuest/EIS # E1050
    1939-1948 Brake master cylinder repair kit CarQuest/EIS # M16
    1939-1942 Front and rear brake shoes Raybestos # 38PG(premium quality) or 38RP(Standard quality)
    1946-1948 Front and rear brake shoes Raybestos # 37PG(premium quality) or 37RP(standard quality)

    That's all I found for now. I'm still trying to match up springs and other items for part numbers. Let me know if you need any help.

    Dan Marvin, Owner
    Exeter Auto Supply
     
  2. thanks saved this for future reference. good to have.
     
  3. 53chevy
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
    Posts: 1,570

    53chevy
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    Anything for the 39/40 merc? or are they the same (not sure, though it seems alot of the parts are not compatible). Or for the merc side of the house with the years listed. Thanks

    Ken
     
  4. 81ttopcoupe
    Joined: Feb 10, 2005
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    81ttopcoupe
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    from Cedar Park

    Awesome. Have you checked availability or prices on these yet? Thank You for looking up the numbers.
     

  5. touchdowntodd
    Joined: Jan 15, 2005
    Posts: 4,068

    touchdowntodd
    Member

    i love you!!! hjahahahhaa... now just toss up some F-1 brake part numbers so i can actually use em, LOL!!!
     
  6. 327-365hp
    Joined: Feb 5, 2006
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    327-365hp
    Member
    from Mass

    Saved to my tech folder. Thanks DMarv that's a huge help for everyone.
     
  7. does anyone know the differences in brake shoes between the years given? 39 to 48. i got stupid looks all day long, and mostly from stupid looking people. im going tru the brakes on a bucket-t with 39 - 48 juice brakes. rebuilt the cylinders, shoes are good all but one wheel. the mounting holes on the bottom are kindof a double-d with an adapter to a round stud. whit
     
  8. MIKE47
    Joined: Aug 19, 2005
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    MIKE47
    Member
    from new jersey

    Thanks Dan!
     
  9. You have 46/48 brakes.They have a cam that self centers the shoe. 39/42 have a bolt with a locknut on the lower outside of the backing plate that you adjust to center the shoe. By the way, this is done when instaling new shoes and never touched again. The only adjusting needed from there on is the upper spring loaded bolt (3/4 in.) to adjust shoe clearence for wear.
     
  10. 35ratbstr
    Joined: Feb 18, 2006
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    35ratbstr
    Member
    from Colorado

    dmarv gets a Atta-boy from me!

    Thanks for sharing the info. It couldnt have come at a better time.
     

  11. thanks man. whit
     
  12. dmarv
    Joined: Oct 10, 2005
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    dmarv
    Alliance Vendor
    from Exeter, CA

    I've checked availability on all items. Wheel cylinders, kits, and master cylinders are no problem to get. Brake shoes are hit and miss with Raybestos. Sometimes they have them and sometimes they don't. It really depends on cores available to them to reline. Prices vary on the items. Wheel cylinders and master cylinder seem pricey to me, but I haven't checked with Kanters, Sac Vintage, or other specialty parts houses on their prices. I do know that all of the CarQuest parts are made in the USA, which may increase prices. Also, in the traditional parts houses, movement of the item also plays a part in pricing. Since these parts are not "hot" movers the price can be higher from the manufacturer to the warehouse distributors. Pricing margains should be the same from WD to Jobber and from Jobber to customer (from most stores), some stores use velocity pricing which would increase the price of slow moving numbers. Since the initial cost is higher at the manufacturer, everyone down the line would be higher.

    Dan Marvin, Owner
    Exeter Auto Supply
     
  13. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    Bruce Lancaster
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    Good stuff needs more time at the top!
     
  14. Petejoe
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    Petejoe
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    from Zoar, Ohio

    Thanks for taking the time to share this!
    Good work!
     
  15. hey dan did you come up with the spring numbers. and how a bout the bearings for the same front ends?

    thanks in advance sko
     
  16. dmarv
    Joined: Oct 10, 2005
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    dmarv
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    from Exeter, CA

    Here you go!

    1928-1948 Front outer bearing BCA/Bower #09074
    1928-1948 Front outer race BCA/Bower #09196
    1928-1948 Front inner bearing BCA/Bower #15118
    1928-1948 Front inner race BCA/Bower #15250X
    1935-1948 Front wheel seal National Seal #5796
    1934-1950 Rear wheel outer bearing BCA/Bower #462
    1928-1937 Rear wheel seal National Seal #450096
    1938-1948 Rear wheel seal National Seal #5877

    These listings are for passenger car and 1/2 ton trucks, they may work for some 3/4 ton trucks.
     
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  17. de-fenders
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    de-fenders
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    Thanks Dan, that's info that i will be saving back for the next project.Good of you to share it with all of us.Greg:cool:
     
  18. Lucky77
    Joined: Mar 27, 2006
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    Lucky77
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    A million thanks!!!!
     
  19. hey dan you kick ass
     
  20. Kustomman#1
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    Kustomman#1
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    The Car Quest #'s work in Canada I have all the parts I need for the 40 and 41 Merc's on order I will have them on Monday!
     
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  21. Stu
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
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    Stu
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    bringing this back up-thanks for the info
     
  22. Flatman
    Joined: Dec 20, 2005
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    Flatman
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    Timken has all the front wheel bearing and races listed on their website. They use the old Ford part numbers for their part numbers:D

    Flatman
     
  23. OK I must be dumb! I am building a model a bla bla bla. I bought 1928-48 Ford Forged Spindles from Speedway Motors and now I am looking for a brake combo that is affordable, is there such a thing? I have looked for disk set up but cant seem to find any that fit, and the drum kits seem to be very pricey? any help would be great.
     
  24. Screw the discs, you can get a '40 Ford drum setup used for under $200, speedway sells the adapter rings and spacers for like $20, and a little welding and drilling, you're all set. Here's some info from the Tech Archive.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124112
    Another way of doing it:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215720&highlight=richardd
    If you really want to be a badass, get some Lincolns, or some Buick finned aluminum drums.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=166339
     
  25. I would like to use the Lincolns or the Buick, but too much for my broke ass
     
  26. Thanks Dan, your post means no more looking and no more two-wheeled braking for my 31.
     
  27. Shaggy
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    Shaggy
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    from Sultan, WA

  28. revkev6
    Joined: Jun 13, 2006
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    revkev6
    Member
    from ma

    Actually I think it's the other way around. every ford front end I've taken apart had timken bearings in it. I think that's what came in em.
     
  29. pasadenahotrod
    Joined: Feb 13, 2007
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    pasadenahotrod
    Member
    from Texas

    39-41 Ford Passenger & Pickup and Mercury Passenger cars share the same brake parts. The 39-41 Brake shoes have a round hole in the brake shoes.

    42-48 Ford and Mercury Passenger and 42-47 Ford Pickup share the same brake parts. The 42-48 Pass & 42-47 Pickup brake shoes have a hole with two flat sides and 2 round sides.

    Fords and Mercurys used Timken bearings as OEM equipment, BUT original bearing have Ford part numbers on them. Replacements have Timken numbers.
     
  30. Chris Casny
    Joined: Mar 13, 2006
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    Chris Casny
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    Does anybody have parts numbers for the springs, etc (all the small stuff that wasnt listed above)???
     

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