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  1. Essex Iron
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    Excellent maybe we can do away with wetting agent :D
    The blow torch perhaps will be cheaper and cleaner than using wetting agent.
     
  2. sudzhis
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    I think With AG sensitizer will need to use wetting agent too, because AG sensitizer is weak, but much much easyer wet surface will be 1000%
     
  3. nicamarvin
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    thats correct, you will need to apply the wetting agent before the AG sensitizer, and yes the AG sensitizer is the "Weak" link in this process, I said that many pages ago
     
  4. sudzhis
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    Nicamarvin- try fire trick! It works! Maybe it will not be so good for AG sensitizer, but it will be much much better and easyer to wet the surface!
    I know the formula of good sensitizer thats same like Alsa or spectrachrome! I work on it! If i get the best way to use i think I will write formula there - MAYBE :)
     
  5. nicamarvin
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    I´ve done the fire trick, this "Trick" is nothing new to me, it goes back years ago, why I dont use it? first I dont play with fire and my customer´s plastic pieces and second I´m able to get a good wet surface with the AG wetting agent and so far nothing has peeled off. its all on the cleaning of the surface
     
  6. sudzhis
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    Hi for all!
    today i make TDS measurements of my destilled water! My result is 002-003. I read somewhere that DL water TDS must be 000. Do someone have some idea? I made myself DL water!
     
  7. nicamarvin
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    I dont test my Di water, I buy it from the store and I spray chrome away... there are other things to worry about.. as long as the water pas my eye test thats good enough for me. whats the eye test? easy. pour a drop of Silver nitrate in the water to be used and IF it gives you a faint cloudy effect, then its not good to use. IF the water remains clear then its good to go
     
  8. sudzhis
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    For start i buy water in shop, but it is almost 4$ for 5 liters! And 5 liters is nothing! For now i made by my self Di water and purity is thats same!

    p.s. i get my new toy- double spray gun! For now i have not time to test it, but gun looks Ok!
     
  9. Essex Iron
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    Have you tested your DI water with your chrome spray yet Sudzhis?
     
  10. sudzhis
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    Yes it is ok! silver nitrate not make clouds and and TDS is 003 (drinking water is 400-600). this weekend no test, because i will fly to France! Will start again next week
     
  11. nicamarvin
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    I pay 2$ for 5 liters, and again compressed air is not too good for spray on chrome
     
  12. sudzhis
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    I`m back from Paris! Tired like wolf after hunting :)

    Yes Nicamarvin compressed air is not the best thing for spray silver, but it is mad job to silver that same petrol tank from hand sprayer! I have some bigger part too!

    Last week I get double hand pump sprayer from some UK company! Will try it tomorrow too!
     
  13. sudzhis
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    I`m back from Paris! Tired like wolf after hunting :)

    Yes Nicamarvin compressed air is not the best thing for spray silver, but it is mad job to silver that same petrol tank from hand sprayer! I have some bigger part too!

    Last week I get double hand pump sprayer from some UK company! Will try it tomorrow too!
     
  14. nicamarvin
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    use two hand sprayers.. I have done much larger jobs this way..

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  15. sudzhis
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    And how u after silvering blow of water from surface?
     
  16. nicamarvin
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    how do I blow the water off? with heat gun or pressured air.
     
  17. sudzhis
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    Hi!
    Today was a garage day! Im tired like tractor! Lot lot lot lot experiments!

    My formula is working for 90%! For now i cant get a right balance with A and B solutions! There is over burn or dust on surface some times, but i will get it right!

    I make some experiments with candies- i wanted red, but get pink ha ha ha ha! Other helmet is fcking yellow tone again, but i searching for water based clear coat!

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  18. nicamarvin
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    Awesome Job. I love the color. and I love working with Helmets.

    this is me with a gold tinted Helmet I did a few months ago
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  19. sudzhis
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    The red one is good, but other not!
    On red helmet is good that, that it is impossible to see yellow tone + damages from solvent!
    Other helmet with tinted clear coat is good if u look from 1m or photo it!
    I know for 99%,. that yellow tone give solvent
    what is in clear coat!
    I cant find in my country water based clear coat!

    Nicamarvin, maybe in Your country u can?
     
  20. sudzhis
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  21. Essex Iron
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  22. nicamarvin
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    the Only water based clear coating we have so far are made for floors and they have a yellow tone to them.
     
  23. sudzhis
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    I will try to get crystal or ceramic clear coat! I know that yellowing problem is in solvent! If more expensive cleaer coat, then less solvent inside- its true! In ceramic clear coat is less solvent than in usual clear coat. I think in water based clear coat solvent isnt inside or it is different !
     
  24. nicamarvin
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    Sudzhis even if you were to solved the "Yellowing" of the pieces. Silver jut dont have the same color hue of chrome. take a silvered piece that has not been clear coat it and compared it to a real chrome piece. do it on the sun and you will see what I´m talking about.
     
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  26. sudzhis
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    Yes I know it Nicamarvin, but this yellowing problem makes silver darker than it actually is, even clear coat is tinted!
     
  27. ngocdong2001
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    Amazing work sudzhis! I'm waiting for the next shipment from angel gilding, that a lot of money!
     
  28. nicamarvin
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    something else is making the silvere piece darker, not the solvents
     
  29. sudzhis
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    Thanks god, i get right all my problems with silvering! For now with guns and silver all is perfect!

    With colored clear coat isnt problems too!

    Nicamarvin do u know what is that, what makes it darker?

    U use only Alsa clear coat?
     
  30. sudzhis
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    With AG chemicals all was Ok! For now I working on my own chemicals!
     
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