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56 Dodge Hemi in a 51 Shoebox

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 51fordor, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. 51fordor
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    I am in the process of putting together a 51 ford and had purchased the jamco sbf adapter kit. Well now a buddy pretty much just put a running 56 Dodge 331 hemi in my lap and was wondering what all would be required work wise to get it in the car? Will I be able to modify the jamco kit, or will I need a totally different mount setup? Anyone else have pics of a hemi in a shoebox? Thanks so much in advance guys.
     
  2. George
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    A buddy had a '55 331 in a 50 or 51 Ford. Chassis Engineering upper mount & I think he made his own lowers with an upright bolt & buscuit rubber. Fit in well.
     
  3. 51fordor
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    Sweet thanks George. I just think it would look so much better than a SBF in the car. I researched the hamb and only can find everyone talking about a old article from a mag in the 50's called teachers pet where they put a hemi in a 50 ford. Trying to find the pics from the article online now.
     
  4. porknbeaner
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    Hemi in a shoe box. Hell yes.

    No nothing from your SBF kit is going to have anything to do with a Hemi. Sell it and go from there.

    But hell yes jam the piece of pig iron in there.
     
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  5. George
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    Put Hemi tech index in search & start reading, if you haven't already!
     
  6. 51fordor
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    Just searched the index and holly crap. Awesome thanks man. Looks like this is going to be the patch I go with the car.
     
  7. scootermcrad
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    Yeah, you have a 331 Dodge truck motor, probably. It's actually a Chrysler inserted into the Dodge truck. Cool motors! I think the 331 truck motor might have been '56 only. I think the rest might have been 354 Truck motors. Not 100% sure, though. I have the same engine. Slightly different than a normal 331. It's basically a 354.

    Yep! Have fun reading! :)
     
  8. 51fordor
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    I actually am getting a whole 56 Desoto 4 door car that runs. It has a firedome Hemi in it that I am told is a 331. The car is said to have less than 70,000 miles on it. He owes me $800.00 and is offering me this to shut me up. Title included. The car itself is pretty bad off being a NC car sitting out under pine trees, but problly fixable.
     
  9. scootermcrad
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    Oh... Nope! FireDome was a 330. You threw me off there because there WAS a 331 put in a Dodge truck in 1956. So yeah, you'll be getting a 330 DeSoto hemi and they are GREAT engines!
     
  10. 51fordor
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    Thanks scooter for the clear up. They just look bitchin. Excited to see it on my frame rails!
     
  11. George
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    A 330 DeSoto for 800 is a good price & easier to fit in than the bigger Chrysler. DeSoto is different than the Dodge & Chrysler hemis parts wise, a lot of knowledge is transferable.
     
  12. scootermcrad
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    Example A: DeSoto FireDome 330 in Mark Ford's Model A Coupe :D

    [​IMG]
     
  13. fbama73
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    SBF is a great engine. Hell, I have one that gets me everywhere I need to go. It would be dependable as hell in your shoebox. There's a ton of great reasons to go that way. But it has a coolness factor of about zero. Do the Hemi, you'll be so glad you did.

    If someone dropped one in my lap, I guarantee it would end up in my Chevy.
     
  14. 'Mo
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    This one is courtesy of lleger66 here on the HAMB. Big Chrysler!

    [​IMG]
     
  15. 51fordor
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    Thanks guys for all the input. If anyone out there has pics of the way they mounted it in a shoebox it would be helpful. Also I was wondering if the oil pan will be a problem with clearance. Anyone need a jamco sbf mount kit for a shoebox? LOL
     
  16. George
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    My buddys had the standard rear sump pan on it. So if your DeSoto has rear sump you should be fine.
     
  17. Finnrodder
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    This is something else than the usual SBC/SBF engine swap for shoeboxes.I think its really interesting.I want to see some progress pics,i guess i am not the only one..
     

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