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Old 07-25-2012, 07:34 PM   #1
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Hello all,

I just acquired a 1941 Chevrolet Coupe, and excited to finally have an old car to cruise around in... I determined from reading many posts on many boards and the OE manual information that I found online that it is a Master Deluxe Business Coupe (Style# 41-1227B).

I bought the car out of California with a bill of sale only, as the previous-previous owner lost it. The VIN tag (aka body serial number) is obviously missing due to the age (and the common problem). The previous-previous owner wrote his bill of sale with the starting VIN#'s of "AA".

My question is that the online OE literature indicates the model to be an "AG"; so shouldn't the VIN# start with that?

Does anyone have an intact VIN tag for a reference point?

Thank you in advance for your information or clarification.

Project41

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Old 07-25-2012, 08:14 PM   #2
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Default Re: 1941 Chevrolet VIN question

Your correct if your saying 1941 Chevrolet did not have a VIN.
They had model number, serial numbers, and engine numbers. http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/models/index.htm
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http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com...resto/4110.htm

I can't answer the question any more specific than the above references because various States issued Vehicle Titles on various numbers. Some States used that body/model tag .... some issued title by the engine number (near your engine, passenger side, on flat part of block by the distributor & oil dipstick.)
If you bought a car without a title you should research your States requirements for titleing & licensing.
Best of luck in you research !
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:40 AM   #3
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Default Re: 1941 Chevrolet VIN question

Based on my research it should start with an "AA". I have only seen two cars with tags still attached to the floor and they were beat to death. But I have done a lot of hunting online. I wouldn't say I am an expert, but I do have a lot of time in it. My title says "AH" which I believe was the engine serial number. Can't wait to fix that!

Keep us informed on how things go at the DMV.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:19 AM   #4
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My 4i vin is 147AH09xxxx.
14 - Baltimore Assembly Plant
AH- Special Deluxe
09 - September
xxxx- x,xxx unit produced that month.
My vin tag was still attached to the rust, I mean floor. The stamped #'s are still legible if you look close, but the printed stuff is not. I had to replace my floors so, I am not sure what I am going to do if I ever get it to the point of registration/titling. When I bought it, I got a bill of sale, and an open title signed by the guy that last titled it back in 1980. It has been through a few difffernt guys before i got it. Don't use the engine #for a vin! That means you cannot ever change engines. Kick a rod out and you are done.
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:25 PM   #5
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Default Re: 1941 Chevrolet VIN question

Unless your old Chevy is spinning in a time warp vortex .... you do not have a VIN.
Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN) did not even exist till 1954, and then weren't officialised until 1981.

Like I originally said, it depends on what number the State wants as proof of title to the car.
Seems like a small point, but wait till you have to argue with some 18 year old kid at the DMV who keeps telling you that you are screwed without some paperwork showing a VIN ....
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:13 PM   #6
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Unless your old Chevy is spinning in a time warp vortex .... you do not have a VIN.
Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN) did not even exist till 1954, and then weren't officialised until 1981.

Like I originally said, it depends on what number the State wants as proof of title to the car.
Seems like a small point, but wait till you have to argue with some 18 year old kid at the DMV who keeps telling you that you are screwed without some paperwork showing a VIN ....
Here we go again with the good old VIN semantics argument. All vehicle have identification numbers, making them, technically, vehicle identification numbers(no caps). The 17 character VIN is not really a number since it contains letters. The point is, if you look at the title to any motor vehicle, in the box titled "VIN" or Vehicle Identification Number" you will find whatever number the manufacturer assigned to that vehicle. If there was a title to Ford's Quadricycle, it would probably be 1. Is it a VIN? No. Is it a v.i.n.? Yes
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:29 PM   #7
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Thank you all for your replies.

I realize that 99.5% of these cars have the body serial number lost. I was just trying to compare my VIN provided to me by the seller to an actual known VIN. Mine is 8 digits/letters starting with AA, and I have determined it was a block number at some point in its history.

In my case, it doesn't matter as the car has no motor or trans... So the number is going to change again. I have a good friend that use to work for the CA DMV and she is helping/guiding me thru the process. I will have to present the car for inspection to DMV with the motor I intend to use in it, so that I can get it transferred as a "title only" (no registration). Once I get that, I can present the CA title to OR and get it registered in my state. Ultimately, the new VIN will be what ever block I put into it...

A lot of work it seems, but worth it to have a cool piece of history, and a sweet ride some day!

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Old 07-31-2012, 04:52 PM   #8
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Here we go again with the good old VIN semantics argument. All vehicle have identification numbers, making them, technically, vehicle identification numbers(no caps). The 17 character VIN is not really a number since it contains letters. The point is, if you look at the title to any motor vehicle, in the box titled "VIN" or Vehicle Identification Number" you will find whatever number the manufacturer assigned to that vehicle. If there was a title to Ford's Quadricycle, it would probably be 1. Is it a VIN? No. Is it a v.i.n.? Yes
this should be on Dr. Phil.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:11 PM   #9
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I have a 41 chevy registered in New York with HX as the letters before the numbers.also has another number that starts with GC does any one know what the letters mean.thanks in advance joe
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:10 PM   #10
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My car is registered in NY ,on the regi it has. CGA MKPAEC. Anybody know what this stands for.Help
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