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Old 07-19-2012, 02:33 PM   #1
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Default cutting torch pops

I'm having trouble with my new Harris cutting torch. Whenever I try to fine tune the tip to begin a cut, the torch begins to pop. The closer I get to having the cones nice and sharp, the faster the pops become until it finally blows the torch out. If I add just a light pressure on the lever with my thumb I can get the popping to stop. I've got the acetylene set at 5-7lbs and the oxygen at 40lbs. The tip has 6290-0 stamped into it and is nice and clean. I'm cutting 1/4 to 3/8 metal. any suggestions?
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:35 PM   #2
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I'm having trouble with my new Harris cutting torch. Whenever I try to fine tune the tip to begin a cut, the torch begins to pop. The closer I get to having the cones nice and sharp, the faster the pops become until it finally blows the torch out. If I add just a light pressure on the lever with my thumb I can get the popping to stop. I've got the acetylene set at 5-7lbs and the oxygen at 40lbs. The tip has 6290-0 stamped into it and is nice and clean. I'm cutting 1/4 to 3/8 metal. any suggestions?
Check for air leaks.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:39 PM   #3
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Tank settings sound good. Try opening the acetylene knob on the torch a little more before you turn on the oxygen.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:19 PM   #4
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Check the seal on your tip.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:30 PM   #5
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Try another tip.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:34 PM   #6
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I would turn the Oxygen down to 20lb. If that tip is size 0 I would step up to a 1. Find a chart that tells you tip size and gas pressure settings for different metal thicknesses. The main thing is to keep the tip perfectly clean.
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:44 PM   #7
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yer suckin air someplace, tighten all the fittings.
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:28 AM   #8
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Had a shop teacher fill a balloon with acetylene, at six or seven pounds the balloon exploded. To be safe lower he acetylene to lower then 5 pounds. Not trying to be a wise guy, it is a real safety issue over five pounds.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:43 AM   #9
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Dirty tip.
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:59 AM   #10
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Check for air leaks and Mabey less oxy
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:13 AM   #11
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Definitely too much oxygen. 20 should do it for cutting. Do you have a tip cleaner? If not they're cheap and a must-have. A clogged/dirty tip will also contribute to the popping.

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Old 07-21-2012, 06:35 AM   #12
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i had a new tip do that changed it out it was fine
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:36 AM   #13
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Check the nut that holds the tip. It needs to be tight. Check to make sure that there isn't anything on the inside of the nut or tip preventing it from sealing.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:45 AM   #14
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buy a tip cleaner and use it to clean the tip. Use the proper size to run down in all hole in the tip to file burrs and sh*t out of there. Gas welding 101
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:48 AM   #15
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Check for air leaks, tight fittings.
I've always used 5 and 15 on the tanks for up to 1/2" mat'l just the way I was taught in HS metal shop a loooooong time ago
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:29 AM   #16
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3 psi acytelene and 30 psi O2.

Are you sure you are giving the torch enough acytelene before you add the oxygen?? That is usually why they backfire like what is happening to you. You want to be working in the smoke range with cutting but not to low. A good way to get the right amount is to light the acytelene and keep turning it up slowly on the needle valve on the torch until ALL the black smoke (carbon) clears, THEN turn it back a half turn on your needle valve into the smoke range.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:39 AM   #17
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The tip is new, plus I've cleaned it repeatedly just to make sure. Whats confusing me is that I can add a light pressure on the level and the popping will stop. I've tightened everything I can find and will adjust presures as per the chart HOTROD428 posted. Plus, I'm buy another tip this afternoon just cause.........I appreciate all the help and advice. Thanks guys.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:18 PM   #18
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The tip is new, plus I've cleaned it repeatedly just to make sure. Whats confusing me is that I can add a light pressure on the level and the popping will stop. I've tightened everything I can find and will adjust presures as per the chart HOTROD428 posted. Plus, I'm buy another tip this afternoon just cause.........I appreciate all the help and advice. Thanks guys.
I would say that the tip isn't getting a good seal between the cutting hole and the pre-heat section. When the fuel gets into the cutting hole, it burns when it gets out of the tip and the fire goes back into the tip causing the popping. When you press the handle to put oxygen through the cutting hole, the fire can't go back into the tip to cause the popping sound.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:47 PM   #19
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I would say that the tip isn't getting a good seal between the cutting hole and the pre-heat section. When the fuel gets into the cutting hole, it burns when it gets out of the tip and the fire goes back into the tip causing the popping. When you press the handle to put oxygen through the cutting hole, the fire can't go back into the tip to cause the popping sound.
That'd be my best guess too. I've got Smith, Victor, and Airco torches but not familiar with Harris and their tip setup. If there are gaskets on the tips, I'd check to see how they look. Usually the retaining nut doesn't have to be all that tight to seal, but, especially on a Smith torch, if someone ever cranks down on the nut like a gorilla just one time then the gasket gets deformed and overtightening is the only way it'll ever seal in the future.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:03 PM   #20
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Had a shop teacher fill a balloon with acetylene, at six or seven pounds the balloon exploded. To be safe lower he acetylene to lower then 5 pounds. Not trying to be a wise guy, it is a real safety issue over five pounds.
Acetelene becmes very unstable when released to the atmosphere at greater thatn 15 psi. I don't believe you could see the difference between 3 and 7 psi.

The later replies suggesting an internal restriction or bleed from the preheat to the cutting orfices make the most sense.
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