Technical Model A Ford with 2.0l Pinto engine

[PetesPonies]

still wondering about toploader style 3 speed from truck anyone??

[PetesPonies]

OK . . how about this?? What you see is a 2.0 Pinto engine bellhousing and a Jeep T90. Its short and the shifter comes out of the top. True, it is made to have a transfer case on the rear of the trans . but maybe??? Perhaps there is a similar trans for the 2wd Jeeps?? Like the postal Jeeps and such? Anyone heard of these being used?






Found this . . . . A T96. Some versions had a floor shift right out of the top and easy to convert one to that way of shifting.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s....php?p=7110490

[need louvers ?]

I see what you're saying with that trans, but if I was going to sadle myself with a three speed, I'd stick with a '39 Ford type topshift. No need to make it any harder to do than it has to be. But in going with the S10 5speed from a four wheel drive and one of Crazydaddio's adaptors, you end up with the shifter in the same place as what you show, an aluminum cased trans that is a bunch lighter, a closed driveline, but more importantly a nicely spaced collection of gears that will let this engine use it's power most efficiantly.

[PetesPonies]

some of the adapters are just to much money, IMO.

[1oldtimer]

Great thread, I just picked up a '28 Tudor with a 2.0, C4 and a chevy luv rear. This set-up is pretty doggy off the line and up any hill on the freeway. I was planning on going back to the banjo rear and poss a manual trans. I did score a header and the edelbrock 1x1 intake/carb combo for it though.

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[pitman]

Pete. that is one cool tranny, how did they ever fit a reverse in that thing?
Here: take a walk on the wild side. I used an M5 trans, w/20% overdrive 5th.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...?albumid=19989

[fordcragar]

Originally Posted by 1oldtimer

Great thread, I just picked up a '28 Tudor with a 2.0, C4 and a chevy luv rear. This set-up is pretty doggy off the line and up any hill on the freeway. I was planning on going back to the banjo rear and poss a manual trans. I did score a header and the edelbrock 1x1 intake/carb combo for it though.

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Stock Pinto's were doggy as hell with the C4. If you hop up the 2.0 a little, you might like the C4. Otherwise get rid of the C4 and put a T-5 in it; which should be a fairly easy swap with the rear that you have.

[1oldtimer]

Originally Posted by fordcragar

Stock Pinto's were doggy as hell with the C4. If you hop up the 2.0 a little, you might like the C4. Otherwise get rid of the C4 and put a T-5 in it; which should be a fairly easy swap with the rear that you have.

The rear end seems to be geared too low (numerically) for the motor. The rpms on the freeway seemed to low for any power, until it down shifted. Do all the T5's have to run a hydraulic clutch?. I want to get some parts in my hands BEFORE I touch it......it's really hard not to tear into it yet, but the roadster show swap meet it this weekend .

[fordcragar]

Originally Posted by 1oldtimer

The rear end seems to be geared too low (numerically) for the motor. The rpms on the freeway seemed to low for any power, until it down shifted. Do all the T5's have to run a hydraulic clutch?. I want to get some parts in my hands BEFORE I touch it......it's really hard not to tear into it yet, but the roadster show swap meet it this weekend .

I'm not sure what the gear ratio of low is, in the C4, but I would imagine somewhere in the middle 2's. The low gear in the T-5 is going to be somewhere in the middle 3's to low 4's, depending on what transmission you end up with. I suppose that the T-5 swap would help, but you have to take into consideration what final ratio you want to end up with before you just start swapping parts.

[PetesPonies]

Anyone have any thoughts on this??

I think I have a plan and would like to know if you see a short fall to this. I will be mounting a later flat head type bellhousing ( like this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/flywheel-clu...a35e8c&vxp=mtr ) to my 2.0 Pinto engine. I will be doing this with a custom 3/8" steel plate I will make. It will bolt to the 2.0 and the bell will bolt to it. Then I will bolt a '32-up 3 speed to this bell. I will use a flywheel which matches that bell ( '49-'53) and drill it for the 2.0 crank. I'll have the balance done on flywheel. I will have to make I shaft to hold the pedals, but I have seen many that are available or that people have made. I will shorten the enclosed driveshaft as needed, but keep it closed and bolted to the transmission.This seems like it will work and give me the things I find important. The 3/8" plate will also be used for the engine mount as I will fab up mounts that use this plate as well. Seem like it will work??

[fordcragar]

Originally Posted by PetesPonies

Anyone have any thoughts on this??

I think I have a plan and would like to know if you see a short fall to this. I will be mounting a later flat head type bellhousing ( like this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/flywheel-clu...a35e8c&vxp=mtr ) ......................................

The link doesn't work.

[PetesPonies]

like this . . .

[V4F]

there should be info out there as it was a common replacement yrs ago ........

[PetesPonies]

Steve, its common to install a '34 transmission onto a 2.0 Pinto??

[V4F]

im not sure , but ive seen the auto & 4 speed used . the open drive shaft is an ez set-up . the motor will lay on its side a little . im not real familiar as i did not like the conversion . just my opion . ....... steve

[V4F]

http://ahooga-archives.com/messages1/467.shtml .. try this for a start .........

[PetesPonies]

If you read above, I have a plan. I want to use the closed drive shaft with a custom plate to mount the trans to the engine. Engine will sit straight up. From flywheek housing back, everything will look stock.

[V4F]

ok , try the "shay" relica . it uses what you want to do .......
http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars...into_118952658

[PetesPonies]

Steve, we are not communicating. The Shay is not at all what I want.

[dwaynerz]

i always thought a 2.3 with associated 5 spd manual behind it would make for a nice power plant/long distance cruiser set up, especially in an a or pickup.