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Old 05-29-2012, 07:57 AM   #1
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Default Sacrificed on the Altar of Speed...



In the late 1920s, Stutz Motor Car Company sales were dropping and company president Frederick Moskovics needed some good press from a fast driver to bring buyers back. Crackerjack Indy winner Frank Lockhart was just that person. He had already set a...

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Old 05-29-2012, 08:01 AM   #2
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wow and .. wow
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:06 AM   #3
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I remember reading about this when I was a kid. Never saw any 'video' or newsreels though. Thanks for the memory tickle.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:09 AM   #4
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Wow, tender where the design flaw was on it? I bet it was all in the shape that caused it to become unpredictable at speed?

It's a beautiful car though and glad someone cloned it so we could appreciate it again.

Good JJ entry!
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:31 AM   #5
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Growing up in Fla and spending many hours on Daytona Bch thats crazy to think he ran over 200mph on that surface in 1928. Those guys had Big Stones! Interesting history. Thanks.

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Old 05-29-2012, 09:21 AM   #6
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Sad to see a brilliant driver give the ultimate sacrafice in the name of the sport he loved. ~sololobo~
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:41 AM   #7
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Looks like he might have made it if he hadn't hit that dune, which flipped the car.
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:46 AM   #8
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frank lockhart was a household name back then , right up there with bebe ruth. its funny how generations forget .
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:20 AM   #9
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Holy,Thanks for that post.
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Awesome race car and a great driver, very sad both left us way too soon!
Thanks for posting.
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Lockhart was 25 when he was killed and never finished out of the top 5 in 22 board races,winning 8 of them.Some of his records stood until the 1990s.The big question mark is what legacy would he have left if he hadn't died that day and had a full career.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:57 AM   #12
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Um Jay?

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Old 05-29-2012, 11:25 AM   #13
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Tman--Don't bust my stones! That article is 4 years old, and it was time to bring her back up anyway! =-)
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:37 AM   #14
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Tman--Don't bust my stones! That article is 4 years old, and it was time to bring her back up anyway! =-)
I know but I had to!

The re-creation is pretty cool.
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Gotta love those Miller 91's.
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Tman--Don't bust my stones! That article is 4 years old, and it was time to bring her back up anyway! =-)
This "stuff" is a finite resource, were going to see it again (and again) from time to time.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:43 PM   #17
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I'm wondering if trying that on the salt flats would have been better than the beach? Tragic loss of a great racer.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:02 PM   #18
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In his biography "Challenger", Mickey Thompson talks about Lockhart's influence on his mentality, the small car vs. the big aero engine monster, the lone visionary vs. a huge organization.

It been a while but I recall Thompson seemed to think that a clam shell cut one of Lockhart's tires, leading to the fatal crash.

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Old 05-29-2012, 09:09 PM   #19
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I am surprised no one has mentioned this, and I am paraphrasing this story 3rd, 4th or 5th hand, so I may have it a bit wrong, but I have read several times that after the practice run of 198mph, the team was pressured by newly-signed sponsor Mason Tires to make a run with Mason Tires on the car for publicity sake. One major problem-the Mason tires in question were not speed rated and had never been tested at anywhere near the speeds Lockhart was running. A tire soon exploded and Lockhart's fate was sadly sealed.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:00 PM   #20
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All new interesting addendums to the story.
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