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Old 05-17-2012, 02:52 PM   #1
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Default 1937-38-39 Chevy Car's on S-10 Frames

1937-38-39 Chevy CAR's riding on Chevy S-10 Frames. I am pretty sure this conversion has been done. Need some info before I try it. So, show some pics and give me some words if you have seen or have done this conversion.

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Old 05-17-2012, 02:55 PM   #2
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:07 PM   #3
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Why would you want an S-10 frame? Do they ride that good?
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:14 PM   #4
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there is a boatload of aftermarket help for these cars. no need for a frame swap.

several years back there was a 37 (?) done with the chassis from a Syclone or whatever it was called, the turbo S-10 pickup. a very well built high quality car, but it looked like ass because of the modifications needed to cover the front of the frame that will go right through the front fenders otherwise. had a goofy grille as I recall.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:32 PM   #5
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I used a 70 nova (Camaro) sub frame grafted at the firewall..about a 2"x3" butt/meeting and went from there....Frank Kunkel
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:35 PM   #6
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WELL !!!,, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME GUYS WILL NEVER GET IT ?????
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:36 PM   #7
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I wish every S-10 ever built would be melted down...
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What's wrong with the stock frame?
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:51 PM   #9
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Yeah porknbeaner, zman, et al. where are you when we need you?

Anyway...I don't think you're gonna be able to get the right patina on that S10 frame like all the traditional hot rods had...
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:55 PM   #10
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I wish every S-10 ever built would be melted down...


good thing I drive a Sonoma.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:03 PM   #11
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I wish every S-10 ever built would be melted down...
S-10's should be left S-10's
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:14 PM   #12
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Please dont do this.... My 38 chevy coupe rides on the frame that chevrolet put it on if you want to update the suspension, call chassis engineering they sell a very nice product for every suspension part for this car (and many others). Great people to deal with. I think youll be happier in the long run.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:36 PM   #13
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second problem [the first is wanting to do it] is, the steering box sticking out the frame as mentioned. you might be better finding, i think 2000 or newer? used a rack or use a dakota frame they use a rack.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:39 PM   #14
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We still on the hamb?
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:49 PM   #15
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S 10s are meant for this, not for cars.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:56 PM   #16
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1937-38-39 Chevy CAR's riding on Chevy S-10 Frames. I am pretty sure this conversion has been done. Need some info before I try it. So, show some pics and give me some words if you have seen or have done this conversion.

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Old 05-17-2012, 06:02 PM   #17
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If you are really serious about that...you don't deserve to own a 37-39 Chevy!!!

Why the hell would you even think about doing that, what possible advantage?
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:03 PM   #18
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I would always use an original frame where possible but I do not understand the hate for the poor S10 - rides decently, drives like a late model and it's an easy swap. We did one in my back yard and here's the result. If you ignore the street roddy two tone, home brew running boards and fake 'brands and imagine this in a single color with wide whites and smoothies or chrome reverse then it ain't that bad....







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Old 05-17-2012, 06:26 PM   #19
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The rear floors will need reworking. You'll lose over 6 inches in height.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:53 PM   #20
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Yes they do. Plus you get PS, Power Disc Brake's, a tough steering box and a frame that is stout with relatively new design and engineering standards. Have you welded on a 1939 Chevy "top hat" frame lately?

I rest my case.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:01 PM   #21
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Finally, I got a negative reply that make sense. Thank You tb33anda3rd . You are so right. The "front steer" steering box is a major problem if you want to maintain the stock look on the outside while going for a modern performance underneath. Food for thought.

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Old 05-18-2012, 01:29 AM   #22
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Have you welded on a 1939 Chevy "top hat" frame lately?
1939 no (not yet), 1937 (and most other years) yes. We are building a 1937 in the shop, right now. MII front, triangulated 4-link in the rear. Power steering and power brakes are not on the list for this one, but they could easily be. We just finished a '41 and a '52.

There have been zero issued with the welds, so far. I doubt there will be any.

I have welded on over 40 "top hat" frames. Did not have any issues with those either.

What sort of problems are you having?

Oh, and the S-10 front suspension is of a designed penned in, and put into production in the early Sixty's, hardly modern, or performance. At least the MII is from the 70's.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:14 AM   #23
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This is mt 37 chassis, all Chassis Engineering stuff.
No need to weld anything, top quality stuff that fits.
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If you do it I want to buy the original frame. Hey I'll find an s-10 frame and trade you even.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:27 AM   #25
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I have an S10 chassis under my 37 buick, works great but turned out it was much more work than if I had updated the rear end and done a front clip swap. Use a manual steering box or a 605 PS box to gain room up front. This was my first chassis swap and it worked as intended, just was not the time saver I thought it would be. If your frame is solid I would clip it and update the rear axle, that is what I am in the process of doing with my 47 cadillac. Front clips from a G body can be had for $100-$200 and a good used rear axle about the same price. Do what you want, it is your car.

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Old 05-18-2012, 07:41 AM   #26
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The S-10 frame swap costs hundreds, the aftermarket suspensions for stock frames cost thousands. For all of you that ask "why?", this is the reason people continue to want to do this.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:23 AM   #27
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This is mt 37 chassis, all Chassis Engineering stuff.
No need to weld anything, top quality stuff that fits.
Are you saying everything is bolt-on? cross member, spring, control arm housing etc? Say it ain't so. Or am I just we-tod-did.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:29 AM   #28
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I don't think you are retarded but yes everything is bolted on.
Had to weld a spacer and gusset to the crosmember for the tubular A arms but if you use stock Mustang arms you don't need to.
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Personally, I don't really see what you gain by putting a car body on a truck frame. Better ride? Better handling? Not really.....
Save money? Maybe.....but it also lessens the value of the car to most people.
My biggest peeve is usually a decent buildable car gets all hacked up trying to fit it on the chassis, then the owner gives up on the project because it was more work than he planned. Leaving a hacked up car that nobody wants.....
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:26 PM   #30
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Why do people think the S-10 frame swap is a good idea 2 reasons there cheap and easy to find.

I considered it once, went as far to strip an s-10 to the frame ( that was fun ) looking at the 2 frames side by side, I just could not bring myself to do it, for the work involved and the fact I could very easily ruin my car, I could not do it, I found upgradeing my old frame was easier, cheaper and dosent hurt the value of my car in the long run.
What eats your lunch ( cost ) is the small things.

lets say you had a s-10 frame, what would you keep what would you change.

Change
brake pads
rotors
bearings
spindels ( drop spindels )
springs ( maybe airbags )
tie rods
centerlink
upper/lower bushings
ball joints
steering box (stock one is to big to clear )
brake lines
rear axle ( to narrow )
all body mounts
new front frame mounts/ core support
wheels and tires
fuel lines
motor mounts
trans mount
bumper mounts
bumpers
gas tank and filler location
shocks front and rear

So what are you really keeping
upper/lower control arms
frame
rear springs and hangers

See my point? now figure in all the custom cutting up of your body to make it fit.
This is just what I learned from my experiance. Im glad I didn't do it.

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Old 05-19-2012, 12:14 AM   #31
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Here's a link to my '37 Chevy build. I'm using all Chassis Engineering bolt on stuff on it.

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The S-10 frame swap costs hundreds, the aftermarket suspensions for stock frames cost thousands. For all of you that ask "why?", this is the reason people continue to want to do this.
False economy.

Is your labor free? I get paid for mine.

This affects a frame swap project, two-fold.

Time: I can install a MII front end in one day, a rear-spring kit in a half-day. Done-and-done.

A frame swap would take weeks-to-months of my time after work, and I am a pro car builder. Depending on your skill level, you could be at it for a LONG time.

Money: Over the frame-swap period of time, I would have earned enough extra cash to buy the MII stuff, anyway (and my family and friends would not have suffered).
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i cant wait to start my frame swap on my 52 buick!!! putting a s10 stub in! oh its going to be so wonderful, i vast market in aftermarket parts that are high quality and not expensive, replacement parts readily available at any parts store! s10 front frame stubs are the same as doing a mustang II but cheaper! huh who would have thunk it! so its not traditional parts, but it goes with traditional/custom hot rod theory, if you can find something that works well and improves the car and makes things easier on the wallet then why not, if you engineer everything right there is actually minimal cutting, honestly when doing this all you need is the stub from firewall forward to just a little front of where the control arms are connected to the frame, the rest can be fabricated. with all this bad mouthing the guy for thinking out side the box and trying to build a decent car with more modern stuff, don't scold him, question him but don't try and deter him away for doing that will make him abandon it because everyone said he shouldn't cant or wont. give him a kool man cant wait to see what it looks like. this forum is a shame, no wonder i dont come here much. best of luck with the build man, if ya want a lot of useful info and see some awesome s10 frames check out www.s10forum.com lots of useful info and some guys that will gladly help ya and give ya a lot of great knowledge
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