Motion Pictures Detroit Will Rise

[THR1LL3R]

Wow, he's truely living free. That's wonderful.

[notrod13]

if the wife and dog left me tomorrow that would be me .... no problem.

[nvr2lo]

I totally get, our wants in life are different from person to person. Sometimes simplicity, and peace are worth more then the "life". Halfpipe on one end of the shop, and my shop on the other. I would have to organize some thought,that would drive me nuts...

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from across the country and around the world, people make their minds up about what detroit is. or isnt. I grew up there and still live and work there. i raised one child there. its a good place filled with good people. pick the "worst" neighborhood and you can still drive through, talk to people and be treated with respect if you do the same. i have gone to pick up cars from areas with burned out buildings and gang tags every where and had total strangers apear out of the buildings to help load up. they like to see the hope of something old being saved. they have not given up. true detroiters never do. and never will.

[Lucky77]

Here's a few recent pics of the Packard plant. It's a really spooky place. I love automotive history and Detroit, but this place is gone. If you drive down Mt. Elliot you can see a multi story collapse. It's gutted, and usually on fire about 3-4 times per
month. Its sad for sure but I don't know how the Packard could ever be rehabbed?

[Saxman]

Originally Posted by farmergal

I understand the convenience of chinese-made products and the overall money saving reasons for doing it....but investors and corporate America is ruining this country for the sake of greed. I sure do hope Detroit can rise again from the ashes because, right now, this country needs a lot of help.

I'm not understanding the logic of this "Profit is Greed" type thinking. Without profits, Detroit would have never been great - no jobs - no innovation, no growth. Profit is what has allowed us to enjoy the standard of living and abundance we have enjoyed for the last 100 years. Profit benefits everyone. We would all like to buy better quality American products over some of the inferior products produced in China for the same price, but face it - the reason it's not possible is high labor costs, one of the world's highest tax corporate tax rates, and government over-regulation. We've killed the goose that layed the golden egg and it has nothing to do with investors or "corporate greed".

I would love to see Detroit rise again...but it ain't never going to happen in the current climate or with this type of thinking.

[49ratfink]

I'd be packing 2 glocks and a supply of 15 round clips if I lived there. got to be all sorts of low life thievin bastards coming around there at night.

[BStoltz]

Awesome building and a sweet story. Its cool to see a guy who seems to have found peace among all the decay and despair around him.... Unfortunately I dont think the plant has much time left as the demolition is scheduled to begin any day now according to this article. Sad to see it go

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/02/d...razed-finally/

[dustdevil]

Great video! I actually had the luxury of getting a tour of the plant last summer by a friend some may know "Kevin Carter". He did a wonderful job explaining where things used to be and how much it has decayed and been torn apart over the years. Mr. Wells was with us and video taped a lot of the tour. It would definitely not be something to go see unless your were with someone who knew what was going on. People were scavenging metal and I-beams while we were there. Lots of strange stuff in there. Like I said though, I'm glad I had the chance to see it and do a little adventuring. Someday it will be gone forever as a pile of rubble and no one will be able to appreciate what it was. Well done video.

[farmergal]

Originally Posted by Saxman

I'm not understanding the logic of this "Profit is Greed" type thinking. Without profits, Detroit would have never been great - no jobs - no innovation, no growth. Profit is what has allowed us to enjoy the standard of living and abundance we have enjoyed for the last 100 years. Profit benefits everyone. We would all like to buy better quality American products over some of the inferior products produced in China for the same price, but face it - the reason it's not possible is high labor costs, one of the world's highest tax corporate tax rates, and government over-regulation. We've killed the goose that layed the golden egg and it has nothing to do with investors or "corporate greed".

I would love to see Detroit rise again...but it ain't never going to happen in the current climate or with this type of thinking.

i think your misunderstanding me. Corporate america/individual investors are all about making as much money as they can by sending products to be made in China when they could very well be made here. Sure it would be a tad more expensive but you'd be employing Americans and feeding American families right here at home. Instead; they're sending their companies to China to be manufactured in factories with child labor and poor working conditions. On top of that; their workers who keep these products on the market are paid dirt cheap, live in the slums, and have virtually nothing to their name. Why? for the sake of you and I having cheaper products and for the sake of Corporate America filling their pockets at the expense of someone else's turmoil...they have no job elsewhere and its all theyve got.

You need to realize that this country started going down the shitter the minute jobs and businesses started going overseas and Detroit, MI is the finest example of that. If things were still made here; people would have jobs, we wouldnt have a high unemployment rate, and welfare would be much lower. Once jobs left, the American people became lazy; started living off the systems and the government holds their hand on everyone's asses now. The blue collar job to support your family isnt what the younger generations are taught to strive for, nope, everyone needs to go to college and get high paying jobs off of rediculous college degrees. You're taught to strive for as much money as possible and a lot of them are involved in corporate america who get their wealth from sending jobs to China. No one is willing to work with their hands anymore and its an entire cycle feeding itself.

When America starts taking pride in their products....whats MADE IN AMERICA; then maybe everyone will wake up. The foundation of a great country, a successful country, and happy people....is great products that are made here at home. When it's made here; the money stays here. You invest in your company, your employees, their families, your town, your state, your customers, other local vendors, and your country. when products are made here; the economy strengthens and the workforce is strong and proud. I am so jelous of perhaps the greatest generations that ever lived... from the 30's, 40's, 50's, and even into the 60's. When a blue collar job could get you a decent house, a nice family, a nice car, and money to enjoy life. I have friends straight out of college with over 70K in college tuition loans and they are JOBLESS after 2 years! I'm confident American AND detroit can live again; it just depends on where this country goes in the next few years

[divco13]

I lived in the Detroit area for 40+ years.
Detroit will allways be a Shit Hole !
The city of Detroit, is one of most corrupt city in America. There will no saving any of these wonderful buildings.

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[tb33anda3rd]

normal living conditions....in a world without woman.

[BigNick1959]

Originally Posted by farmergal

i think your misunderstanding me. Corporate america/individual investors are all about making as much money as they can by sending products to be made in China when they could very well be made here. Sure it would be a tad more expensive but you'd be employing Americans and feeding American families right here at home. Instead; they're sending their companies to China to be manufactured in factories with child labor and poor working conditions. On top of that; their workers who keep these products on the market are paid dirt cheap, live in the slums, and have virtually nothing to their name. Why? for the sake of you and I having cheaper products and for the sake of Corporate America filling their pockets at the expense of someone else's turmoil...they have no job elsewhere and its all theyve got.

You need to realize that this country started going down the shitter the minute jobs and businesses started going overseas and Detroit, MI is the finest example of that. If things were still made here; people would have jobs, we wouldnt have a high unemployment rate, and welfare would be much lower. Once jobs left, the American people became lazy; started living off the systems and the government holds their hand on everyone's asses now. The blue collar job to support your family isnt what the younger generations are taught to strive for, nope, everyone needs to go to college and get high paying jobs off of rediculous college degrees. You're taught to strive for as much money as possible and a lot of them are involved in corporate america who get their wealth from sending jobs to China. No one is willing to work with their hands anymore and its an entire cycle feeding itself.

When America starts taking pride in their products....whats MADE IN AMERICA; then maybe everyone will wake up. The foundation of a great country, a successful country, and happy people....is great products that are made here at home. When it's made here; the money stays here. You invest in your company, your employees, their families, your town, your state, your customers, other local vendors, and your country. when products are made here; the economy strengthens and the workforce is strong and proud. I am so jelous of perhaps the greatest generations that ever lived... from the 30's, 40's, 50's, and even into the 60's. When a blue collar job could get you a decent house, a nice family, a nice car, and money to enjoy life. I have friends straight out of college with over 70K in college tuition loans and they are JOBLESS after 2 years! I'm confident American AND detroit can live again; it just depends on where this country goes in the next few years

Right on FARMERGAL, you hit the nail on the head!

There is a big differance between profit and greed. Henry Ford became one of this countrys first BILLIONAIRS yet payed the highest wages out of all the auto makers in Detroit. That tired old argument that workers wages killed Detroit is plain old Bull Shit. Greed and indifferance did.

[blacktopbuddha]

thanks for turning this thread about one mans eerie serendipity and turning it into more corporate political bullshit rant

talk about Detroit and it's ruins, his sanity, our living space but come on put a fucking cork in it

[Larry W]

Graffiti and the Internet,not much more?????

[yetiskustoms]

Great video, sad history being lost

[Ole_Red]

wish I could have seen it in it's hey-day!

[Von Rigg Fink]

As far as that guys concerned , he's living in heaven.

If I had never had any kids or got married, or had any goals..that coulda been me


its all perspective

[hotrod1940]

Amazing how a simple story produces pages of political dialogue.

[Beau]

I'd live there in a heart beat. FREE rent and electricty? Deal me in. He has tons of equipment in there that appears to be unused for a long time.

I'd rather die there than in any group home or nursing home.