Projects Toymakers "EVIL" Twin Engine Dragster Build PT2

[Toymaker]

Well here we are in 2012 and if you've been following the Twin has made some passes at Eagle Field and been included in a Downtown Fresno photo shoot although not finished. This thread will be dedicated to "Fit and Finish" giving the Twin some much needed detail and distinguising it from the barn find look it unintentially has.

The team over at Hot Rod Coalition has a Feature on the Twin and I with the BEST photos before we tore it down to ready for the 2012 Season. Check it out here..............
http://www.hotrodcoalition.com/rockys-evil-twin/
http://hotrodcoalition.com

I also want to thank everyone for their support in the "Search For a Champion" Sweepstakes, we'll be notified Feb 23 if we made it to the "Finalist" runoff. For those who are seeing the TWIN for the first time here is the original thread links. Thank You, Rocky Phillips

Toymaker's Twin Engine Dragster Build
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=533613

Toymakers needs your VOTES to go Barnstorming!
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=656822

Here's where we were.....................



Here's to 2012

Twin Disc Clutch

15' Ring Slot Chute



Mounting the Body using Army Surplus Fasteners

[64 DODGE 440]

You have us salivating like Pavlov's dog Rocky. Looking forward to seeing your vision come together. Keep up the good work.

[Model A Mark]

Im onboard again roc.
look forward to your updates and feb 23.
your car is so badass.
so how have the ring gears held up so far ?

[D_Lazaris]

This will be good!!!!

[mctim64]

Can't wait to see the progress!

[farmer12]

Going to be awesome!

[Noland]

cool, always room for improvement. Awesome car. I always loved the craziness of twin engine dragster. Watched you build it very inspiring. Ill also be watching this.

[poofus1929]

Cool! Another thread to subscribe to.

[roseville carl]

Go get em Roc!!!!!

[BrerHair]

Wouldn't miss this for anything. Go Rocky!

[LongT]

Loved the video REALLY loved the sound. Good thread to watch!!

[dragsled]

Looks good Rocky , i might have to copy your body mounting idea, BTW you have a package on the way Tim jones

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by Model A Mark

Im onboard again roc.
look forward to your updates and feb 23.
your car is so badass.
so how have the ring gears held up so far ?

I though I had some pics of the ring gears..........HMMMMMMM........Well anyways there was no signs of wear, only some marking from one of the ring gears being a little bigger than the other 3 and basically bottoming out. Thank You Mark!

Originally Posted by dragsled

Looks good Rocky , i might have to copy your body mounting idea, BTW you have a package on the way Tim jones

I have plenty of the "Shake Proof" fasteners if ya need some. Thank You Tim!

[GaryB]

where do I vote?

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by GaryB

where do I vote?

HaHaHa, I forgot about that link. thanks Gary

[Motor_Psycho]

words cannot explain how awesome this is!

[OahuEli]

Woo Hoo! Round 2!

[nexxussian]

Glad to see continuing progress.

[kisam]

Waiting for an update!! You done yet?

[dragsled]

thanks Rocky ,I might take you up on the offer ,Haven't been able to find any out this way yet, My body will be about the same size as yours , How many did you use on yours Thanks Tim

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by dragsled

thanks Rocky ,I might take you up on the offer ,Haven't been able to find any out this way yet, My body will be about the same size as yours , How many did you use on yours Thanks Tim

I have plenty and have only used 4 to this point. I haven't decided on the mounting of the belly pan and still have to mount the T body.

[Toymaker]

A Little progress has been made with some details being addressed. I shortened the cowl to the angle of the engine plate then filled the gap between the eng plate and cowl with some 1/8" aluminum sign material, tuff stuff

To mount the plate I used Chevy VC bolt "load spreaders", I wasn't looking forward to more small tab making.

Here's the view from the back side.

I also have been fiddling with this and that.........here's the mods I made to the exhaust.


Finally found a tank, need to have some repairs, make some straps and clean it all up.

Before the night was over I had to try the T body fit after the front of the body was completed. The mounting of the T body is coming to me and although I'm not looking forward to the glass work I'm salivating at the thought of how low the body will make the car look when I figerglass in the Tonneau cover.

[poofus1929]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

A Little progress has been made with some details being addressed. I shortened the cowl to the angle of the engine plate then filled the gap between the eng plate and cowl with some 1/8" aluminum sign material, tuff stuff

To mount the plate I used Chevy VC bolt "load spreaders", I wasn't looking forward to more small tab making.

Here's the view from the back side.

I also have been fiddling with this and that.........here's the mods I made to the exhaust.


Finally found a tank, need to have some repairs, make some straps and clean it all up.

Before the night was over I had to try the T body fit after the front of the body was completed. The mounting of the T body is coming to me and although I'm not looking forward to the glass work I'm salivating at the thought of how low the body will make the car look when I figerglass in the Tonneau cover.

Very cool. I also have an original Moon tank that needs some work. If you fix yours post some tech info and pics on how you did it.

[GaryB]

that ole hotrod be lookin all kinds of baddasss,

[roseville carl]

Hey Roc I think I have a coupla extra straps that I used on my tank if you want them.................

[Lytles Garage]

TO COOL !! Can't wait to see you guys run at Riverdale!! .. Chris

[Toymaker]

Getting the details detailed..........painted the axle, hairpins, spindles, drag & tierod, steering box cowl extension, bellhousings and picked up the intakes and seat from the electroplater. The Moon tank just bneeded a patch which my son did then I wet sanded it with wd40 and 180 paper and finished it off with red scotchbrite, also wet with wd4o. Besides the history marks it turned out ok.

[poofus1929]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

Getting the details detailed..........painted the axle, hairpins, spindles, drag & tierod, steering box cowl extension, bellhousings and picked up the intakes and seat from the electroplater. The Moon tank just bneeded a patch which my son did then I wet sanded it with wd40 and 180 paper and finished it off with red scotchbrite, also wet with wd4o. Besides the history marks it turned out ok.

Sweet!! Starting to come together nicely. I sold my T coupe body last weekend. I need a new project. I'm thinking about building a Chassis Research K-88 styled dragster. Your build has inspired me.

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by poofus1929

Sweet!! Starting to come together nicely. I sold my T coupe body last weekend. I need a new project. I'm thinking about building a Chassis Research K-88 styled dragster. Your build has inspired me.

That'd be awesome!!!! I forgot to mention when I sanded my tank I put 2 layers of masking tape over the original Moon Sticker and it protected it from the sand paper and scotch brite. I was carefull when sanding around it but ran the scotchbrite over the tape and it held up.

[mctim64]

It's all looking very nice Rocky! T body looks cool on there.

[64 DODGE 440]

You are an artist Rocky, it's going to look spectacular with all of the bits painted and plated. The body will be the icing on the cake! You could save yourself a lot of fiberglass work and make the tonneau out of aluminum.

[41 Dave]

Rocky, Your rail looks really mean with the "T" body installed. Wish you all the best on your "Barn Storming Tour !" . Show them how we do it California.

Dave

[roseville carl]

Wow Roc those manifolds look Bitchin!!!!
the tank looks great and by the time you get through the ol Evil twin will be grinnin from ear to ear...............

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by mctim64

It's all looking very nice Rocky! T body looks cool on there.

Originally Posted by 64 DODGE 440

You are an artist Rocky, it's going to look spectacular with all of the bits painted and plated. The body will be the icing on the cake! You could save yourself a lot of fiberglass work and make the tonneau out of aluminum.

Originally Posted by 41 Dave

Rocky, Your rail looks really mean with the "T" body installed. Wish you all the best on your "Barn Storming Tour !" . Show them how we do it California.

Dave

Thanks guys! I won't be happy until the T body is done, I had thought of forming aluminum but as much as I dred the glass I think it would look better.

Originally Posted by roseville carl

Wow Roc those manifolds look Bitchin!!!!
the tank looks great and by the time you get through the ol Evil twin will be grinnin from ear to ear...............

Thanks carl, no more gas stains

Getting the frame cleaned up, I'm lucky my Bro-inlaw has mucho remnant sand paper. Only made it to the engine plate.

[Toymaker]

Another 2 hours and I'm almost done sanding the frame, then theres 4 uprights around the back and helmet bars before we can paint it.

Christmas in FEB, Santa Carl sent me theses clamps that are perfect to mount the Moon tank!

[dragsled]

Car is lookin good Rocky , get it all shiney for the world tour , BTW gonna look badass with the body , Tim

[roseville carl]

Keep on keepin on Roc!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PVTA Jay]

Any news yet on voting results? Hope I didn't miss the news, just got back in town.

[Toymaker]

We didn't make it to the next round in the Sweepstakes but I ain't giving up on my Travels See http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...656822&page=29
A couple other items I've had delivered to help out the cause..............




Thank You Tim and Derrick!

[roseville carl]

2 cool Roc!!!!

[roseville carl]

so OK what's up with the build?????? inquiring minds want to know......

[Toymaker]

Been busy @ work and my Grandson's 1/4 Midget has been spread all over the shop This weekend looks promising!

[afaulk]

Still keeping an eye on ya from Alabama. It's gonna look good!

[D_Lazaris]

I can't wait to see and hear it in person again! You driving past our tent at Eagle at 6am was the best alarm clock anyone could ask for!

[Toymaker]

Thanks friends! I haven't been able to get anything done, my wife has a siatic (SP) nerve problem and I came down with a cold

[Model A Mark]

Hey Roc, hope everything starts going your way soon,
Any chance of us seeing your Grandsons 1/4 midget ?

[poofus1929]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

Thanks friends! I haven't been able to get anything done, my wife has a siatic (SP) nerve problem and I came down with a cold

That sucks! I know the feeling. I didn't even go to the Pomona Swap Meet this last Sunday because of cold like symptoms.

[GaryB]

sorry about the health stuff,gets in the way everytime.looking forward to the progress on your toy.got any pics of the 1/4?

[Toymaker]

Thank You everyone, I'm very blessed and getting better, definately nothing to complain about. OK here's the "Phenom" My grandson, 5 yrs old practicing backing it in with the OLD 1/4 Midget. I put some water down so he could get a feel for being LOOSE......He loves it!


Here he is with the beginning of his Trophy collection.........Won the Heat and Main that day!

Here he is suited up........

Novice Training in a Friends car...............

Man I cannot believe we don't have any good photos of him in HIS car! Here he is on his Rip Rider

This is the best i can find of him in his car, coming off the scales!

[dragsled]

Cool shots, looks like a future fuel altered driver, if he likes the sprinter now

[vrod64]

Nice

Will have a fresh bottle of wax ready when ya come to lilttle river !

[RAVENS29]

lookin good!

[afaulk]

Rocky you're truly a bad influence! I love it.

[Dean Lowe]

Any kid who starts driving in a 1/4 midget, is gonna' turn out OK!

[GaryB]

not a bad way to start out,at all

[BrerHair]

The need for speed is in that boy's DNA! Fantastic!

[64 DODGE 440]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

Thank You everyone, I'm very blessed and getting better, definately nothing to complain about. OK here's the "Phenom" My grandson, 5 yrs old practicing backing it in with the OLD 1/4 Midget. I put some water down so he could get a feel for being LOOSE......He loves it!

That picture says it all...Next step, clay track winged sprints!

[Toymaker]

HaHaHa, "POPS" is pretty proud, when we go anywhere in the RV he asks if were going to Eagle FIELD or Bakers FIELD

[roseville carl]

Way too cool Roc!!!!!!!!!!

[Toymaker]

We're making progress with the Helmet Bars fitted, and working on the Uprights around the Drivers seat.............Pics to come!

[OahuEli]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

HaHaHa, "POPS" is pretty proud, when we go anywhere in the RV he asks if were going to Eagle FIELD or Bakers FIELD

So when you gonna build him a tiny twin engine ride like Grampa has? A couple little Tecumseh's on a mini-rail would be really cool!

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by OahuEli

So when you gonna build him a tiny twin engine ride like Grampa has? A couple little Tecumseh's on a mini-rail would be really cool!

Believe it or not I was joking about 2 engines in his old Quarter Midget and he was like "Let's do It POP" I had to back pedal out of that!

[OahuEli]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

Believe it or not I was joking about 2 engines in his old Quarter Midget and he was like "Let's do It POP" I had to back pedal out of that!

Lol, yeah, that may be too much for a five year old but it'd be cool build nonetheless! If I'd had something like that instead of my pedal car at 5 years old I'd still be on restriction!

[Toymaker]

Time for some progress photos, Eagle Field event is just over 2 months away and I have some Car Show commitments so I finished fitting the Helmet, Kidney and hoop upright bars.






Lining all the bars up was the biggest obsticle, nothing worse than looking at it and they are not simetrical, I started with a Tape measure, than used a level but ultimately went with eyeballing it

I have a hole saw joint cutter but I've learned to use the chop saw with success and I'm happy with the results. Here is a brief description of my method.

My friend Roseville Carl sent me these "T" clamps and I copied the mounts he made for his Digger. Tanks gonna be the icing on the cake, I may have to rename the car the Lembke and Phillips Twin


That's all for tonight, tomorrow I hope to have all the bars welded in and primer the beast!

[poofus1929]

Nice! Looks bitchin'

[dragsled]

Looks good rocky , I like the tank straps carl made , Now I know how I'm gonna do mine Tim

[BrerHair]

Cool tube cutting there Rocky. Never seen that. Cut it a hair long and grind to fit!

[roseville carl]

now get yourself a piece of 1/16 rubber and cut a 1/2 wide strip to put between the clamp and tank Roc.................

[Model A Mark]

your work looks real good roc.
sure was hoping to see yu role through texas with that thing.

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by dragsled

Looks good rocky , I like the tank straps carl made , Now I know how I'm gonna do mine Tim

He's pretty crafty for a guy that thinks the world is Flat!

Originally Posted by BrerHair

Cool tube cutting there Rocky. Never seen that. Cut it a hair long and grind to fit!

You'll be able to get the cuts so close that very little grinding is required

Originally Posted by roseville carl

now get yourself a piece of 1/16 rubber and cut a 1/2 wide strip to put between the clamp and tank Roc.................

Yep, this week my friend, did you get my message?

Originally Posted by Model A Mark

your work looks real good roc.
sure was hoping to see yu role through texas with that thing.

Don't give up hope yet, I'm looking at the Texas State Championships in October.

[Toymaker]

I finished the helmet bars with the tube between the uprights, then I was struggling with what to mount the Fuel Tank to and had been wanting to ad a diagonal so I combined the 2.

Here is the chassis in better light.....

We're rolling along NOW!

[64 DODGE 440]

Hey Rocky, what diameter tube did you use for the helmet bars?

[GaryB]

lookin good Rocky,your gettin rite after it

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by 64 DODGE 440

Hey Rocky, what diameter tube did you use for the helmet bars?

1" X .120" wall

Originally Posted by GaryB

lookin good Rocky,your gettin rite after it

Thanks Gary

[roseville carl]

Hey Roc I got the message but have enough C4 stuff already thanx anyway...........

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by roseville carl

Hey Roc I got the message but have enough C4 stuff already thanx anyway...........

I figured
Here are some good photos of Reilee in his 1/4 midget.

[roseville carl]

Think he needs to be happy....................hey Roc you need another grandson????

[Toymaker]

HaHaha, I'll wait on another Grandson, we're not done spoiling him yet
I mounted the Master Battery disconnect and insulated the Fuel Tank Straps but the BIG news is I'll be making an appearence at the Tucson 50th Anniversary Reunion May 5th. Looks like a GREAT Time............

See this tread on the HAMB http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ghlight=tucson
or go to http://www.sirace.com/reunion.html
What do ya think Carl?

[dragsled]

Let the barnstorming begin! F**K Champion ,Their plugs always sucked anyway, we only used them when we got them for free and that was just to warmup the car Let me know on the T shirts I have 5 grandkids ,plus one for me Tim Jones

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by dragsled

Let the barnstorming begin! F**K Champion ,Their plugs always sucked anyway, we only used them when we got them for free and that was just to warmup the car Let me know on the T shirts I have 5 grandkids ,plus one for me Tim Jones

Thanks Tim, Kool Hand Luke is working on the art now and hope to have shirts soon!
Remember the old seat that was 1/2 Military and 1/2 folding chair? I "Electro Plated" it and had my friends at Cal Fast upholster and it looks perfect! Sorry about the quality of photos but here it is.............
BEFORE

AFTER


Working on finishing the body and mounting it then we weld everthing and paint it

[GaryB]

fancy dancy seat there fella

[Toymaker]

Here's some photos my friends at hotrodcoalition.com took in downtown Fresno, thank you Anthony!
Drivers view..........

Nice overhead............

Some detail that told me it was time to clean it up

More on hotrodcoalition.com

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by GaryB

fancy dancy seat there fella

Thanks Gary!

[D_Lazaris]

Your making it too comfortable in there! Don't fall asleep on the line!!

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by D_Lazaris

Your making it too comfortable in there! Don't fall asleep on the line!!

HaHaha, Thanks D!

[64 DODGE 440]

Looks great Rocky. How's the fiberglass coming?

[roseville carl]

Seat is kool and the pics from Fresno are awsomeeee..............

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by 64 DODGE 440

Looks great Rocky. How's the fiberglass coming?

I think I'm gonna save the project for this winter The TWIN will be all new again in 2013

Originally Posted by roseville carl

Seat is kool and the pics from Fresno are awsomeeee..............

Thanks Carl!

[GaryB]

where do I vote?

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by GaryB

where do I vote?

On what Gary?

[Toymaker]

I'm no Tom Hanna but I'm pretty happy with the TWINS Body progress. Down to the last of my aluminum which a friend gave me off a trailer that had been damaged. Just made it

[Model A Mark]

damn that looks good roc

[oldblue53]

So what did you do for patterns? Posterboard patterns?

[51 Hemi J]

Rocky,

I love that drivers view - you should duplicate that with a dragstrip background. Maybe at the HAMB this year?

Such a killer build!

[64 DODGE 440]

You may not be Tom Hanna, but you are building one fine looking digger! Almost too bad that all of that aluminum will be covered up with the bucket.

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by Model A Mark

damn that looks good roc

Thanx Mark!

Originally Posted by oldblue53

So what did you do for patterns? Posterboard patterns?

Everthing 'cept the rear was done with measurements and bent 1 shot, the rear I made a cardboard pattern, cut the piece big and trimmed to fit.

Originally Posted by 51 Hemi J

Rocky,

I love that drivers view - you should duplicate that with a dragstrip background. Maybe at the HAMB this year?

Such a killer build!

We'll see ya there

Originally Posted by 64 DODGE 440

You may not be Tom Hanna, but you are building one fine looking digger! Almost too bad that all of that aluminum will be covered up with the bucket.

HaHaHa, I'll show off this body for a while, build and test some Alky/Nitro carbs then mount the "T" body

[roseville carl]

I vote no on the T it looks way too cool as is ........................JMHO

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by roseville carl

I vote no on the T it looks way too cool as is ........................JMHO

"O" Voye on the body, it's gonna be a transformer

[neilswheels]

This is very cool, don't know why i didn't look before, but glad I have now.

[dragsled]

Car is lookin good Rocky ,I had to laugh I was looking back through the posts , never saw the pic of the gloves I sent, got to protect Lee's fingers for the work between rounds Tim Jones

[Lytles Garage]

Looks good Rocky, we bent the hood on a Bonneville roadster on a piece of sewer pipe,use what ya got!! Chris

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by Lytles Garage

Looks good Rocky, we bent the hood on a Bonneville roadster on a piece of sewer pipe,use what ya got!! Chris

Thanks Chris! The chassis is fully welded and the body is done less some removal of paint and stickers (the aluminum was off a Nascar trailer my friend pulled at one time) that need to come off. After some paint and pick up the rear end housing that's getting powder coated I can start putting the pieces together. This week I'll start on the 350 that I'm putting in place of the 307 that resided in the LH side.

[dragsled]

Hi Rocky I was looking for something on the net today and found this pic thought you might like it Tim Jones

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by dragsled

Hi Rocky I was looking for something on the net today and found this pic thought you might like it Tim Jones

Thanks Tim, Fuller had those Buicks laid over!

This week/weekend has been good. I painted the chassis with rattle cans and @ .99 (lowes) it only cost $8 and I can touch it up.

My son jokes with me that I finally had something powder coated, the rearend housing cost $45, it looks Bitch'n and should resist the wear and tear of getting in and out.

After installing the rearend housing I had to fit the side panels.........

With that all done I put all the pieces together and added my (painted) aluminum drums.

Mounted the battery and assembled the front end and we have a roller!


Now I have to get the engines ready. When I pulled the heads off the 307 I found the EX valves had been "Kissin" the pistons, luckily no damage to the camshaft. I never thought that .480 lift would interfer but I'll be checking the 350 when I assemble it The goal is to have it together by next weekend for a local car show so I'll have more regularly! Rocky

[GaryB]

lookin good rocky

[poofus1929]

Sweet! Looking good. I rattle can a lot of stuff too. If you take your time it comes out pretty nice.

[mctim64]

WoW Rocky! That's looking real good!

[roseville carl]

Lookin good Roc..............

[D_Lazaris]

Very good! It's coming back together nicely!

[dragsled]

Looks good Rocky , I was wondering will the battery in the driver area pass tech at most tracks, Just curious Tim Jones BTW nice paint job, use the same place to get mine

[Toymaker]

Thanks everyone! The Battery is a "Dry Cell" so I think it's OK, but the car won't pass TECH at most tracks anyways I'd like to remove the battery all together and install Mags but $$$$$ prevents it! Can't wait to drive it again!

[afaulk]

Go Rocky!

[64 DODGE 440]

Nothing wrong with that rattle can paint job, easy touch up and essence of garage built hot rod. Really coming together nicely!

[landseaandair]

Hope to see this thing in running condition in Tucson. I did get to check it out at eagle field during the build phase, looks really sharp now.

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by 64 DODGE 440

Nothing wrong with that rattle can paint job, easy touch up and essence of garage built hot rod. Really coming together nicely!

That's exactly what I told Lee

Originally Posted by landseaandair

Hope to see this thing in running condition in Tucson. I did get to check it out at eagle field during the build phase, looks really sharp now.

We're planning on the Tucson Trip, sounds like it's going to be a blast!
Here's a pic of the front end all assembled.

Here is the 350 Stormy Byrd gave me (fresh rebuild) that is replacing the 307..........I'm getting excited!

[BrerHair]

Looks great Rocky! Bet you have sore fingertips.

[roseville carl]

Now just what do you think is going through Rockys brain in this photo Huuummmmmmmm...............

[Kenneth S]

Originally Posted by dragsled

Looks good Rocky , I was wondering will the battery in the driver area pass tech at most tracks, Just curious Tim Jones BTW nice paint job, use the same place to get mine

Any battery mounted in the drivers compartment has to be in fully incased in a battery box.

[Model A Mark]

Originally Posted by roseville carl

Now just what do you think is going through Rockys brain in this photo Huuummmmmmmm...............

^^ vroom vroom vroom ^^

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by BrerHair

Looks great Rocky! Bet you have sore fingertips.

Still Kinda "NUMB"

Originally Posted by Kenneth S

Any battery mounted in the drivers compartment has to be in fully incased in a battery box.

When the "T" Body is mounted I could mount it under the Turtle Deck.

[Toymaker]

Had some time and was wondering what class the TWIN would have been back in the day and read somewhere to use the SCTA designations as they reflect the early classes. So....AA is 501 and over, the TWIN is 700, runs Gas and plans are to be a modified roadster..............AA/GMR or AA/GD for now as a Dragster even though SCTA doesn't show a Dragster Category and Lakester doesn't work for me. With some more research and in time my goal is AA/FMR

[Toymaker]

Engines and Engine Plates are painted and put together, Chevy orange awt to set it off nicely!

Then the business end, had to position the replacement 350 on the LH side and after seeing some marks on the rig gears that showed me it was too tight I moved them apart. New clutch is really nice, too bad it's covered up

[D_Lazaris]

Looking great!!!

[poofus1929]

Looks bitchin'

[GaryB]

like the clutch.orange is sexy

[roseville carl]

Lookin great Roc, a little bit of color does wonders for the soul...........

[dragsled]

Looks good Rocky , Is the clutch your useing need to have the pack clearance set after useing it a few times , if it is I'm sure I have an extra set of the long 12 inch feeler gauges so you can set it more evenly, let me know and I'll find them and send them out Tim Jones

[nexxussian]

Looks Bitchin.

What's all the stuff on the floor in the foreground of the pic of the "business end"?

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by dragsled

Looks good Rocky , Is the clutch your useing need to have the pack clearance set after useing it a few times , if it is I'm sure I have an extra set of the long 12 inch feeler gauges so you can set it more evenly, let me know and I'll find them and send them out Tim Jones

Tim, I can remove some .015 shims for wear but I'll have to remove the bellhousing for that. Thank you for your offer though.

Originally Posted by nexxussian

Looks Bitchin.

What's all the stuff on the floor in the foreground of the pic of the "business end"?

HaHaha, you noticed the "Beer Can" shims I ran between the flywheels to get the engines further apart before reaming the dowel holes in the LH block.

Engines are in and now it's one piece at a time

[enloe]

Hell yeah this thing is a beast...

[roseville carl]

Ifn it don't use bigger hammer..................

[76cam]

Damn looked awsome before.But all prettied up it looks better!!!!!Nice job.

[Nobey]

I can't wait to hear it run Rocky.........

[the shadow]

rockey,
after looking at your intake the inner runners are shorter then the outeres so I figured you may have had a lean problem on one side? I was just wondering after you tore down the engine and did an inspection did you find the intake manifolds evenly distributed the fuel/air mix or did you find any indications of lean conditions on different cylinders? just curious
Paul

[vrod64]

Looks great Roc.

[mctim64]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

Had some time and was wondering what class the TWIN would have been back in the day and read somewhere to use the SCTA designations as they reflect the early classes. So....AA is 501 and over, the TWIN is 700, runs Gas and plans are to be a modified roadster..............AA/GMR or AA/GD for now as a Dragster even though SCTA doesn't show a Dragster Category and Lakester doesn't work for me. With some more research and in time my goal is AA/FMR

If you are thinking running in SCTA You need to come out and spend some time at Elmo with us this year, hell come on over to Bonneville with us in Aug. I've got room for one more crew member on Jake. It'll be a blast!

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by the shadow

rockey,
after looking at your intake the inner runners are shorter then the outeres so I figured you may have had a lean problem on one side? I was just wondering after you tore down the engine and did an inspection did you find the intake manifolds evenly distributed the fuel/air mix or did you find any indications of lean conditions on different cylinders? just curious
Paul

All the cylinders were real rich, so at this point it's hard to tell. The runners are equal although the logs are tilted, here is the measurements I came up ith when I made it.

Originally Posted by mctim64

If you are thinking running in SCTA You need to come out and spend some time at Elmo with us this year, hell come on over to Bonneville with us in Aug. I've got room for one more crew member on Jake. It'll be a blast!

HaHaHa, 1 day my friend.
Here is a relaease the folks at Tucson sent out for the TWIN.

[Toymaker]

Some Photos we took for the T-Shirt art....................

[GaryB]

lookin good Rocky

[alteredpilot]

hey rock...
PLEASE don't put vinyl lettering on that car.

let me know if i can help you avoid that proposition (hand painted lettering!!)

see you in a month!

[enloe]

That is so damn cool !!!!

[Tom S. in Tn.]

I understand the engines are counter rotating, but does it matter how the 2 engines are timed (indexed) to each other?
Thanx; Tom S. in Tn.

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by alteredpilot

hey rock...
PLEASE don't put vinyl lettering on that car.

let me know if i can help you avoid that proposition (hand painted lettering!!)

see you in a month!

HaHaha, No, other than a Sticker or 2 Hand Painting all the way!

Originally Posted by Tom S. in Tn.

I understand the engines are counter rotating, but does it matter how the 2 engines are timed (indexed) to each other?
Thanx; Tom S. in Tn.

In the beginning of the build we had much conversation and I decided to have the LH engine Fire 10* after the RH with both set at 32* BTDC timing. I have talked the the Johansen Brothers of "Twin Bear" fame and they tell me their father had done much testing on the dyno back in the day and found no advantages with firing every 45* compared to 90*.

Originally Posted by enloe

That is so damn cool !!!!

Thanks everyone for your enthusiasm!

[Toymaker]

I had plans on attending one of the biggest car shows around today but the weather had me worried and I didn't want to take the TWIN out in the rain. After I was sure of good weather I pulled the TWIn out of the shop to take a few photos. After the photos I fired it up and had some ignition issues, cleaned up the points, added a ballast resistor, set the dwell and timing and man all I can say is its sounds SOOOOOO much better with two 350's! I cannot wait to get the clutch pedal dialed in and drop the hammer on it!!


The plugs miss by this much!

Chromed the Brake Handle!

5 Spokes are forever!


Thought I'd never have a MOON Tank, especially with the Tr-Bar cap!






I admit it aint real sexy but it is how I think I would of built it in late 59!

[Von Hartmann]

Way cool. I can't wait to see it with the body mounted.

[Toymaker]

Well, good news and bad news..................I just went out and destroyed 2nd gear! But no worries becaue the TWIN will FRY the tires in direct! OH what a feeling!!!!

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by Von Hartmann

Way cool. I can't wait to see it with the body mounted.

Thank VON, I'm saving that part of the build for the winter

[64 DODGE 440]

That's just plain pretty! You did it right Rocky. I can see that car on the line at San Gabriel in 1959.

[OahuEli]

Man oh man Rocky the Evil Twin looks good! More videos in the near future?

[Lancer]

Looking great Rocky!

[GaryB]

damn, she cleaned up pretty nice.looks real good

[Kiwi Kev]

Thank you for building that awesome machine!

[gasserjohn]

if you are going to run hi gear only remove trans run direct drive >stronger/safer.....have stromy's backup girls push it back after burn out!!!

[poofus1929]

Looks killer!!

[nexxussian]

It sounds different huh?

Sooooo, what's it sound like (hint, hint )?

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by 64 DODGE 440

That's just plain pretty! You did it right Rocky. I can see that car on the line at San Gabriel in 1959.

Thanks Tom! Be ready for a 1st hand experience The greatest compliments I get are remarks like where did you find that

Originally Posted by OahuEli

Man oh man Rocky the Evil Twin looks good! More videos in the near future?

Yep, when Lee gets back in town we'll get some footage!

Originally Posted by Lancer

Looking great Rocky!

Thank You lance!

Originally Posted by GaryB

damn, she cleaned up pretty nice.looks real good

Thanks Gary!

Originally Posted by Kiwi Kev

Thank you for building that awesome machine!

Thanks Kev!

Originally Posted by gasserjohn

if you are going to run hi gear only remove trans run direct drive >stronger/safer.....have stromy's backup girls push it back after burn out!!!

HaHaHa, the direct drive is a goal but for now I'll just run high gear.

Originally Posted by poofus1929

Looks killer!!

Thank You

Originally Posted by nexxussian

It sounds different huh?

Sooooo, what's it sound like (hint, hint )?

More Video Soon!

[Outback]

What a buzz it must be! Lookin good!

[greaser]

Can't wait to hear the new evil hearts pounding out music. You done good!

[LeadSledMerc]

That looks soooo f'in good all cleaned up....awesome job!!!

Thanks for sharing all the pics and updates, it's been a fun ride watching your progress!!

[296moon]

Fantastic! even looks sexy with the scatter shield bulge!

[Model A Mark]

very nice roc, your a inspiration to us all.

[Cshabang]

god thats sexy...

[Royalshifter]

Bitchin as hell, Rocky hats of to you and Lee....can't wait see it in person.

[Lytles Garage]

This is exactly what Hot Rodding is all about ! The best part was when you started the project, and all the people who said it woud'nt work,or tried to change everything you did, they sure shut up when it smoked the tires for a 1000 feet!!! lots of people have started projects like this ,but give it up when something do'nt just bolt together. Love the car Rocky,super job making a bunch of parts you had laying around into a bitchen car. see you at Riverdale! Chris

[roseville carl]

HOT DAMN Roc that looks awsommmmmmmmmmmmmeee!!!!!!!!!!

[Toymaker]

Thanks everyone! the next project is to convert the 3 speed to an in & out box with reverse.....maybe

[INLAW MODEL A]

very cool!

[BrerHair]

Just can't believe how fast you've knocked this thing out Rocky! Fantastic! Sexy for sure!

[Toymaker]

Heres a little video testing high gear that's on my facebook
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/p...50736892664264

[Model A Mark]

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[Toymaker]

Try this Mark, my home page and search down a little.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001889946468

[OahuEli]

Got any regular video? I'm not on Facebook, I was but ex girlfriends showing up tend to rile up the missus. Lol!

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by OahuEli

Got any regular video? I'm not on Facebook, I was but ex girlfriends showing up tend to rile up the missus. Lol!

Hahaha, my friend is supposed to put the vid on YouTube. If that doesn't happen soon I guess I'll have to go out and do it again.................darn it

[Dean Lowe]

You are an inspiration Rocky. You had a dream to have drags at Eagle Field, and made it happen. You had a dream to build and run a twin engined dragster, and you've done it. You have a dream to take your twin on tour, and you are going to do it. Many talk the talk, you walk the walk. Hats off to you my friend.

And yes, the twin looks like the type of cars I saw at Pomona, San Gabe, and LIONS in the late 50's. You got it right!

[dragsled]

Car is just plain COOL!!! Good job

[Tom S. in Tn.]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

Well, good news and bad news..................I just went out and destroyed 2nd gear! But no worries becaue the TWIN will FRY the tires in direct! OH what a feeling!!!!

Originally Posted by gasserjohn

if you are going to run hi gear only remove trans run direct drive >stronger/safer.....

I wondered about that. Still certain about that u-joint?

I can't view the video either. How well does it run hi-gear?

Thanks for the timing information. I've wondered for several decades about multi-engine setups.
Tom S. in Tn.

[rcshaggy169]

I never get tired of looking through your threads, that car is full of badassery.
now the stupid question of the day, do i spy your throttle pedal on the left side? because of the drive line taking up real estate on the right?

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by Tom S. in Tn.

I wondered about that. Still certain about that u-joint?

I can't view the video either. How well does it run hi-gear?

Thanks for the timing information. I've wondered for several decades about multi-engine setups.
Tom S. in Tn.

The U-joint doesn't worry me and I had an idea running the power thru the 3 speed counter gear would be weak. When $$$$ allows I would like to take the Trans out and have a DD Shaft made. I'll get a video on utube soon and without cussing all I can say is it's a GD, BA, SOB to drive .

Originally Posted by rcshaggy169

I never get tired of looking through your threads, that car is full of badassery.
now the stupid question of the day, do i spy your throttle pedal on the left side? because of the drive line taking up real estate on the right?

Yep, the center section is on my right. Thanks for the props Shaggy.

Originally Posted by Dean Lowe

You are an inspiration Rocky. You had a dream to have drags at Eagle Field, and made it happen. You had a dream to build and run a twin engined dragster, and you've done it. You have a dream to take your twin on tour, and you are going to do it. Many talk the talk, you walk the walk. Hats off to you my friend.

And yes, the twin looks like the type of cars I saw at Pomona, San Gabe, and LIONS in the late 50's. You got it right!

Thank You Dean!

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by dragsled

Car is just plain COOL!!! Good job

Thanks Tim!

[mctim64]

It's all good Rocky! I was wondering about the funny sounds in the video but it was still cool. See ya at Famoso this weekend.

[Toymaker]

Here's last Sundays "Test Session".

[Model A Mark]

very cool

[GaryB]

very cool Rocky,be out there scare'in all those farm animals and small chillins

[landseaandair]

Yowza! That video just made my day.

[roseville carl]

That is wayyyyyyyy toooooo coooooooLLLLLLLLL

[poofus1929]

Bad f'ing ass!!

[Dean Lowe]

You're right Rocky. It sounds a lot stouter with two 350's!

[Toymaker]

Thanks Guys!

[GEISTERFAHRER]

How can you not watch that video and smile, Amazing great job

[davo461]

That vid is magic !!!!

[Tom S. in Tn.]

The audio on this computer is less than good, but it doesn't sound much like 2 different engines at all. They are in harmony. And those Strombergs are tuned perfectly.
I can't help repeating myself, but this car is just simply fantastic !!
Tom S. in Tn.

[enloe]

aaawwwweeeesssommmeeeeee!!!!!!

[vrod64]

Think you need to take the gal whos voice you hear to the drags. She sounds like she has had her nose stuck in too many paperback books reading them love stories.
Like the sound of those motors under a load.

[wrenchbender]

Rocky i gotta say we must have the same thought process build a super bitchin car in the garage and then make test runs right out on the road in front of the house! My neighbors probly love me the same way yours love you lol. Damn that digger is so badass i cant wait till the hamb drags to see that car in person and officially meet you. I just put a new motor in my afx dodge and done the exact same thing you done only no one brave enough to video for me lol. Take care and ill see you at the hamb drags.

[Toymaker]

Thanx again everyone!

Originally Posted by vrod64

Think you need to take the gal whos voice you hear to the drags. She sounds like she has had her nose stuck in too many paperback books reading them love stories.
Like the sound of those motors under a load.

The engines seem to be happy right now, I can watch it again and again and love the sound of the engines. I'm figuring out that the Twin Engine theory is more about Torque than HP and I can live with that! Thanks V!

Originally Posted by wrenchbender

Rocky i gotta say we must have the same thought process build a super bitchin car in the garage and then make test runs right out on the road in front of the house! My neighbors probly love me the same way yours love you lol. Damn that digger is so badass i cant wait till the hamb drags to see that car in person and officially meet you. I just put a new motor in my afx dodge and done the exact same thing you done only no one brave enough to video for me lol. Take care and ill see you at the hamb drags.

Not something I reccomend but I had to see if I had the power and clutch to achieve my goals. Thanks Bender, see ya in August!

[Toymaker]

This Saturday I'll have the TWIN in tow when I go to the ANRA Opener @ Famoso for a little show and tell! Check out anra.com

[Toymaker]

T-shirt art is in and I love it and my Mascot

[poofus1929]

Originally Posted by Toymaker

T-shirt art is in and I love it and my Mascot

Nice!! If you plan on selling these I will definitely buy one.

[mctim64]

Very Nice! I'll take two!

[roseville carl]

Bitchin Roc

[Toymaker]

Originally Posted by mctim64

It's all good Rocky! I was wondering about the funny sounds in the video but it was still cool. See ya at Famoso this weekend.

Tim, I think I know what you are hearing, when the clutch gets hot it wouldn't allow me to get it in gear with-out "Cramming" it into gear, I've since adjusted it. Thanks for the Shirt "Thumbs-Up".

[Toymaker]

Tonight I got out the shears and made up a couple of "Flash Shields" for the carbs. The holes you see in the tops are to tighten the carb top screws which double as the shield mounting.

[BrerHair]

Love the Rocky logo!

[dragsled]

Very cool artwork for the shirt. Who did it? BTW good to see you testing the car just like the old days , I also felt the highway in front of my place was my private testing ground back when i was running my cars, now all the roads around me are gravel , Could be some tricky driveing to test now

[OahuEli]

Originally Posted by mctim64

Very Nice! I'll take two!

Ditto!