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Roadsir · 02-12-2012, 05:37 PM

Since I have started working on the '34 in earnest I thought I would start a build thread. I need to catch up to a few other builds on the HAMB and this has car has been sitting on the back burner way too long.

Last month I took the car down to the shop and it looked like this.

Last Sunday I pulled the body, stripped the chassis and laid it up on the work table. I really did not like some of the work I did on the original X member, so I am starting with a new X kit from Jim Wiemer, taking out the 4 bar rear and changing to a ladder bar rear.

I started by squaring up the X member kit on the table and tacking some support braces in place in areas that I didn't think would interfere with the cross tubes, and tranny crossmember.

Next I scribed a centerline on the table, and two additional lines parallel to it that were the same width as the middle of the x member. On these centerlines I tacked two 3x3 pieces of square tubing that act as a jig to center the X on the Table.

Then I centered the frame on the table and tacked it in place, and started to trim the X member with a cut-off wheel, first the lower legs, and once they were trimmed the X dropped down over the 3x3 tubing. Then I trimmed the upper legs and it fell right in place centered off the 3X3 tubing.

Here you can see the 3X3 tacked to the table and the rectangular cross braces tacked to the x member.

Now I can play with the final placement of the center cross bar, ladder bar crossmember and the tranny crossmember before I weld them in place.

I got the x member dropped down and tacked in place. I need to make a plate for the one lower rear tube to attach to.

Next will be to get the rear set-up with the ladder bars.

And then after that, I change the front over to an I beam and hairpins, and get the 392 HEMI mocked up with the 4 speed. I think I might be able to use the existing motor tabs I made for the BBC, but I may add a tube under the oil pan.

redlineracer42 · 02-12-2012, 05:42 PM

Lookin Good! Redliner approved!

Roadsir · 02-12-2012, 05:48 PM

I hope it launches like your stude

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Originally Posted by redlineracer42

Lookin Good! Redliner approved!

damnfingers · 02-12-2012, 06:21 PM

Subscribed...hope you make it worth my while!

Roadsir · 02-12-2012, 09:07 PM

The pressure is on

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Originally Posted by damnfingers

Subscribed...hope you make it worth my while!

60 ford · 02-12-2012, 09:15 PM

Going to be an awesome car, good luck with your build.

Tman · 02-12-2012, 10:54 PM

Looks good man, glad to hear of the progress!

Uptown83 · 02-12-2012, 10:59 PM

Look forward to your progress. I love 33/34s!

brady1929 · 02-13-2012, 06:47 AM

Looks awesome

**fab32** · 02-13-2012, 07:53 AM

Never like to see a BBC replaced but since your installing a Hemi.........all is forgiven.

Keep the updates coming.

Frank

48 Chubby · 02-13-2012, 08:31 AM

This one is headed in a whole new direction.
A better direction.

Roadsir · 02-13-2012, 07:20 PM

Thanks, I'll try to get some pics of the motor next weekend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fab32

Never like to see a BBC replaced but since your installing a Hemi.........all is forgiven.

Keep the updates coming.

Frank

**1950-mercury** · 02-13-2012, 07:29 PM

Lookin good!!! Keep up the good work!!!

SinisterCustom · 02-13-2012, 07:40 PM

Good looking project!!!!

Roadsir · 02-19-2012, 08:37 PM

New Update. Yesterday and today I worked on getting the ladder bar set-up tacked in. This took considerable more time than I anticipated as I had to change how I had the frame tacked to the table in order to make room for the ladder bars.

I also discovered my X member was "racked" just a little. So I broke the tack on the driver side and use a strap to pull it forward slightly. This cleared up measurement error I was finding.

That allowed me to get the ladder bar x-member in place. I clamped the bars to the steel stock and piece of railroad tie, to hold them perpendicular, and used a piece of 1" steel tubing underneath the front of the bars to set their height.

After checking the wheelbase, and a hundred more diagonal measurements I tacked everything up.

New Axle and Hairpins should be here tomorrow. I hope to get that tacked up during the week and get the rear housing tacked in place as well.

damnfingers · 02-20-2012, 12:33 AM

Nice work!

**GaryB** · 02-20-2012, 12:47 AM

it's gotta be the angle of the shot,but that 2nd pic looks kinda wacked. frame looks good

Roadsir · 02-20-2012, 10:39 AM

Yeah, its the lens doing some funky stuff.
Got to see if the UPS guy drops the axle and hairpin off today..
s

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Originally Posted by GaryB

it's gotta be the angle of the shot,but that 2nd pic looks kinda wacked. frame looks good

Roadsir · 02-21-2012, 09:28 PM

New Axle and Hairpins showed up today on UPS. I went with So Cal hairpins. They have the integral cast stainless bat-wing, shock mount, panhard, and I got one of their forged axles. Nice stuff.

I adjusted the bars so they were the same length on both sides and installed them on the existing spring.

I have the frame at a rake that is at ride height, and I got the spring partially compressed. With this I have 6 degree caster. I'll probably get another degree at full compression.

I got the bars squared up, stopped short of tacking them tonight. I'll need to trim the 4 bar brackets off as well.

T Hudson · 02-22-2012, 09:54 AM

Next will be to put the ford or dodge shock mounts on the frame. Looking sharp bro.

02-12-2012, 05:37 PM	#1
Roadsir Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Home of Schells, Grainbelt, Hauenstein Beer! Posts: 1,651	Project - Hemi Powered 1934 Ford Five Window Highboy Since I have started working on the '34 in earnest I thought I would start a build thread. I need to catch up to a few other builds on the HAMB and this has car has been sitting on the back burner way too long. Last month I took the car down to the shop and it looked like this. Last Sunday I pulled the body, stripped the chassis and laid it up on the work table. I really did not like some of the work I did on the original X member, so I am starting with a new X kit from Jim Wiemer, taking out the 4 bar rear and changing to a ladder bar rear. I started by squaring up the X member kit on the table and tacking some support braces in place in areas that I didn't think would interfere with the cross tubes, and tranny crossmember. Next I scribed a centerline on the table, and two additional lines parallel to it that were the same width as the middle of the x member. On these centerlines I tacked two 3x3 pieces of square tubing that act as a jig to center the X on the Table. Then I centered the frame on the table and tacked it in place, and started to trim the X member with a cut-off wheel, first the lower legs, and once they were trimmed the X dropped down over the 3x3 tubing. Then I trimmed the upper legs and it fell right in place centered off the 3X3 tubing. Here you can see the 3X3 tacked to the table and the rectangular cross braces tacked to the x member. Now I can play with the final placement of the center cross bar, ladder bar crossmember and the tranny crossmember before I weld them in place. I got the x member dropped down and tacked in place. I need to make a plate for the one lower rear tube to attach to. Next will be to get the rear set-up with the ladder bars. And then after that, I change the front over to an I beam and hairpins, and get the 392 HEMI mocked up with the 4 speed. I think I might be able to use the existing motor tabs I made for the BBC, but I may add a tube under the oil pan. Last edited by NUROADSIR; 03-04-2012 at 07:02 PM. Reason: update title

02-12-2012, 05:42 PM	#2
redlineracer42 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Stude a monga U.S.A. Posts: 1,169	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Lookin Good! Redliner approved!

02-12-2012, 06:21 PM	#4
damnfingers Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,242	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Subscribed...hope you make it worth my while! __________________ Damnfingers I’ve been listening to my gut since I was 14 years old, and frankly speaking, I’ve come to the conclusion that my guts have shit for brains.

02-12-2012, 09:15 PM	#6
60 ford Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mitchell Ind Posts: 1,811	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Going to be an awesome car, good luck with your build. __________________ My Altered Wheelbase 62 Falcon Build http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=474111

02-12-2012, 10:54 PM	#7
Tman Old School HAMBer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beautifull Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 28,308	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Looks good man, glad to hear of the progress! __________________ Open for business, website in developement www.compulsionrodandcustom.com

02-12-2012, 10:59 PM	#8
Uptown83 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 576	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Look forward to your progress. I love 33/34s!

02-13-2012, 06:47 AM	#9
brady1929 Old School HAMBer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mesa, Az Posts: 4,015	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Looks awesome

02-13-2012, 07:53 AM	#10
fab32 Alliance Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bay City, Mi. USA Posts: 13,372	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Never like to see a BBC replaced but since your installing a Hemi.........all is forgiven. Keep the updates coming. Frank __________________ "What we got here is failure to communicate"

02-13-2012, 08:31 AM	#11
48 Chubby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Christiana,TN Posts: 1,014	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. This one is headed in a whole new direction. A better direction. __________________ We has met the enemy, and he is us.

02-13-2012, 07:29 PM	#13
1950-mercury Alliance Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 536	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Lookin good!!! Keep up the good work!!! __________________ "Remember once you crush 'em their gone forever"

02-13-2012, 07:40 PM	#14
SinisterCustom Old School HAMBer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: METHaway, WA Posts: 8,142	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again. Good looking project!!!! __________________ Pinstriping by Josh

02-19-2012, 08:37 PM	#15
Roadsir Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Home of Schells, Grainbelt, Hauenstein Beer! Posts: 1,651	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again.(2-19-12 update) New Update. Yesterday and today I worked on getting the ladder bar set-up tacked in. This took considerable more time than I anticipated as I had to change how I had the frame tacked to the table in order to make room for the ladder bars. I also discovered my X member was "racked" just a little. So I broke the tack on the driver side and use a strap to pull it forward slightly. This cleared up measurement error I was finding. That allowed me to get the ladder bar x-member in place. I clamped the bars to the steel stock and piece of railroad tie, to hold them perpendicular, and used a piece of 1" steel tubing underneath the front of the bars to set their height. After checking the wheelbase, and a hundred more diagonal measurements I tacked everything up. New Axle and Hairpins should be here tomorrow. I hope to get that tacked up during the week and get the rear housing tacked in place as well.

02-20-2012, 12:33 AM	#16
damnfingers Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,242	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again.(2-19-12 update) Nice work! __________________ Damnfingers I’ve been listening to my gut since I was 14 years old, and frankly speaking, I’ve come to the conclusion that my guts have shit for brains.

02-20-2012, 12:47 AM	#17
GaryB Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Reno,nv Posts: 3,333	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again.(2-19-12 update) it's gotta be the angle of the shot,but that 2nd pic looks kinda wacked. frame looks good __________________ Don't need no stink'in radio

02-21-2012, 09:28 PM	#19
Roadsir Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Home of Schells, Grainbelt, Hauenstein Beer! Posts: 1,651	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again.(2-21-12 update) New Axle and Hairpins showed up today on UPS. I went with So Cal hairpins. They have the integral cast stainless bat-wing, shock mount, panhard, and I got one of their forged axles. Nice stuff. I adjusted the bars so they were the same length on both sides and installed them on the existing spring. I have the frame at a rake that is at ride height, and I got the spring partially compressed. With this I have 6 degree caster. I'll probably get another degree at full compression. I got the bars squared up, stopped short of tacking them tonight. I'll need to trim the 4 bar brackets off as well.

02-22-2012, 09:54 AM	#20
T Hudson Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,283	Re: Finally..I'm working on the '34 again.(2-21-12 update) Next will be to put the ford or dodge shock mounts on the frame. Looking sharp bro. __________________ If I call you a tool, don't assume you are useful.

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