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Old 12-21-2011, 09:40 AM   #1
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Default Fred Lavell's J2 Allard



Sometime early in 1951, Delvan Lee went into a buddy's dealership in Detroit, MI and took delivery of a bright blue and Cad powered J2 Allard. For the next three years, Delvan drove the shit out of the little sports car - winning hill climb events, p...

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Old 12-21-2011, 10:09 AM   #2
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Sent a note to one of the long time vets, hopefully he has some more info. Love that glass body!
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:01 PM   #3
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The registrar for the Allard club is here on the HAMB.Perhaps ,he has more info.
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My thoughts exactly!

I'm sure Colin (Allard Register) will eventually chime in here ... but in the meantime, here's a color pic of Lavell's re-bodied Allard J2 @ Bonneville:

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Old 12-21-2011, 08:20 PM   #4
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Wow! If there ever was a car I wanted to clone!
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:57 PM   #5
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That is a beaut!
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:23 PM   #6
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Default Re: Fred Lavell's J2 Allard

The grille area of this looks very much like an Astin Martin,
Did Allard have dealings with them or is it just a "borrowed" look?
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:05 PM   #7
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Default Re: Fred Lavell's J2 Allard

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The grille area of this looks very much like an Aston Martin,
Did Allard have dealings with them or is it just a "borrowed" look?
Slick Willy -

As stated in Ryan's Blog, Lavell's Bonneville car is not an Allard body ... but rather a fiberglass version of the 1953 Sorrell "SR-100" Roadster body (designed & built by Bob Sorrell).

Here's some pics of other Sorrell "SR-100" Roadsters:


The Denny Larson / Bob Sorrell Special (an SR-100 with a hardtop) on the salt in 1954 (photo by J.R. Eyerman)


Dick Lane's SR-100 Roadster on a Kurtis 500KK chassis with Jimmy 6 power (from CAR CRAFT Oct 1955)


Dr. Mark (mrbhotrod) Brinker's "Bob Sorrell / Chuck Manning Special" at the Petersen Automotive Museum
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:28 AM   #8
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Is this an Allard thread or a Sorrell thread?
Seems to me its both...


I've been looking for pics of Allard chassis.

Just to see what one looks like without its body.
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:33 AM   #9
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Is this an Allard thread or a Sorrell thread? Hemi-32 are you going to start a Sorrell thread?

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banjeaux bob -

Sorry if I offended you (or anyone else) with my "Off Topic" post.

I thought this thread was about the "Class D Sports Car" that Fred Lavell ran at Bonneville in 1955 & 1956 ... a Sports Car with a Sorrell SR-100 fiberglass roadster body ... mounted on an Allard J2 chassis ... running a DeSoto HEMI engine.

If need be, I can certainly delete the Sorrell SR-100 pics from this thread.
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:58 AM   #10
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...I've been looking for pics of Allard chassis.

Just to see what one looks like without its body.
Alex (metalshapes) -

Funny you should ask ... cuz' banjeaux bob posted quite a few pics of an Allard J2 chassis (sans body) in his 1952 Allard J2 thread ... this J2 even has one them funny looking 392ci engines in it!

Also checkout the Is an Allard J2X a Hot Rod?? Limeworks thinks so build thread ... cruzr and Limey Steve posted pics of the chassis throughout the entire restoration process.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:23 AM   #11
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Alex (metalshapes) -

Funny you should ask ... cuz' banjeaux bob posted quite a few pics of an Allard J2 chassis (sans body) in his 1952 Allard J2 thread ... this J2 even has one them funny looking 392ci engines in it!

Also checkout the Is an Allard J2X a Hot Rod?? Limeworks thinks so build thread ... cruzr and Limey Steve posted pics of the chassis throughout the entire restoration process.
Thanks for the links.

I've got some reading to do tomorrow...
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:51 AM   #12
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If need be, I can certainly delete the Sorrell SR-100 pics from this thread.
Heck No, keep them coming. That is a beautiful body. Do you have any links as to the history of Sorrell? I love the fiberglass sports car bodies of the fifties. Iíve researched a lot of different makes, but this is the first Iíve heard of a Sorrell. Where there any others with significant racing heritage?fficeffice" />>>
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:37 AM   #13
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Default Re: Fred Lavell's J2 Allard

1958 Echidna #66, the "Larson" car. Devin-Chevrolet special.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:08 AM   #14
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Default Re: Fred Lavell's J2 Allard

Thanks for the clarification, HEMI32, and the confusion!
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:30 PM   #15
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Default Re: Fred Lavell's J2 Allard

I'd say the Aston Martin borrowed from Sorrell,not the other way around
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:04 PM   #16
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I'd say the Aston Martin borrowed from Sorrell,not the other way around
I really doubt that.


And which Aston Martin sports racer looks similar enough to think anybody was borrowing?

I guess I'm just not seeing it...

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Old 12-22-2011, 02:10 PM   #17
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Default Re: Fred Lavell's J2 Allard

Never seen the Dick Lane car with the Jimmy. GREAT thread.
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:14 PM   #18
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Default Re: Fred Lavell's J2 Allard

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...I am really hoping for more info on both.This particular Allard AND Sorrell bodies...
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...That is a beautiful body. Do you have any links as to the history of Sorrell? I love the fiberglass sports car bodies of the fifties. I’ve researched a lot of different makes, but this is the first I’ve heard of a Sorrell. Where there any others with significant racing heritage?
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Never seen the Dick Lane car with the Jimmy...
banjeaux bob, BigBlockBuck, & falcongeorge -

I do have some '50s magazines with more info and pics of Sorrell bodies ... but have yet to scan any of those articles.

Perhaps HAMBer Geoffrey Hacker (G. Hacker) will chime in here ... Geoff's "Forgotten Fiberglass" website is chock full of Sorrell info & pics ... including these Blog entries:

* Fiberglass Explodes On The Scene – Petersen Motorama November 1953

* “Fiberglass Funnies” – Featuring A “Sorrell” Sports Car – Car Craft, February 1954

* GMC Under Glass: The Dick Lane Sorrell SR100 With A Kurtis 500KK Chassis Too! (1955)

* Fiberglass State of the Industry 1956: Trend Book 130

* Front and Rear Styling For The Fiberglass Body (Car Craft, March 1956)

* Fiberglass Buyers Guide (Car Craft, March 1956): Part 2 – The Sorrell SR-190 Coupe

* Fiberglass Buyers Guide (Car Craft, March 1956): Part 6 – The Sorrell SR-100 Sports Car
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:15 PM   #19
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Damn that metalshapes guy for posting pics of mid '50s Aston Martin roadsters in this thread! ... Where's a moderator when you need one to keep a thread "on-topic"?
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:34 PM   #20
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I love how these threads sprout and grow!
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