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Can you clear bare metal and it last?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tattooedLew, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. tattooedLew
    Joined: Aug 3, 2009
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    tattooedLew
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    from Mesa Az

    Im in the process of chopping my 1950 ford and the metal work is pretty amazing and I wana show it off. Is there anyway to just clear over the bare metal and it hold up?
     
  2. dontlifttoshift
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    I cover all my bare metal with black paint, it works really good.

    to answer your question no, you can't clear it. Soak it with gibbs and it will be fine until you are ready for paint.
     
  3. kustoms36
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    yes !ppg flex and flat nice flat clear...
     
  4. Yes, we have a local car done with rattle can clear, and its held up for a couple of years.
    Its not garanteed to last for ever, but you can do it.
     

  5. tattooedLew
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    from Mesa Az

    What kind of rattle can clear
     
  6. 345winder
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    looks good,,but after a while starts rusting from underneath .....even after properly PRE-treated....at least down here in the humid south...
     
  7. metalshapes
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    You are in Az.

    I am too...

    I scuff up the bare metal on my Roadster once every 2 or 3 years.
    ( Bare metal, no clearcoat, gibbs, WD40 or anything else )

    I use the 3M fiber discs they sell to clean mating surfaces from old gasket material.
    ( to be sure it doesnt remove too much metal )

    That has acctually been a more trouble free "surface treatment" than the black paint on my wife's Falcon, which had several re-sprays that baked off in the sun ( in 6 to 12 months...)


    Someday my Roadster will have paint...
     
  8. tattooedLew
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    from Mesa Az

    I live in arizona but im a pdr tech and am at a hail storm in tn. i brought the car here to finish it while i work here. im from this area originally
     
  9. Engine-Ear
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    Krylon is pretty good stuff...it's always weird applying clear to bare metal b/c you can't get a 'feel' for the coat thickness... Good luck with it. (BTW, you'll know if it's on too thin after the first rain!!) ;)
     
  10. TexasLinc
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    I do hail work too, for a general contractor that does apt roofing projects mostly.

    Raw metal Is the shit!
     
  11. 1951Streamliner
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    I heard that getting too many oils on the bare metal can cause problems later on when its time for paint.
     
  12. 117harv
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    POR 15 makes a product called Glisten, it can be brushed or sprayed on all bare metal surfaces and is UV resistance. I was told it dries faster in humid weather...wth. Has anyone used or had any experience with it?
     
  13. Plasti-cote.
     
  14. rusty addiction
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    I used VTH (if memory severs) high heat clear for engines. Said on the can that it could be used on bear metal that was sanded or blasted. Sanded the ugly read off a cherry bomb, used 100 grit in a straight line for the brushed look, painted the ends to match the bike, and cleared it. 5 years later it’s filthy dirty, but not rusty.
     
  15. rusty addiction
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    heres a pick (I hope)
     

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  16. badshifter
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    Well, we're waiting <stamping feet>. Where are the pics! Show it off here to us on the HAMB!
     
  17. use an adhesion promoter like bulldog or SEM and then spray it with a good quality clear like PPG's DCU2021 or DC3000 just make sure the metal is very clean prior to spraying
     
  18. mj40's
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    A local guy powder coated his clear. The body work is terrible and I don't care for the car much myself.
    [​IMG]
     
  19. tattooedLew
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    from Mesa Az

    Ill post pics as soon as i can figure out how lol
     
  20. bigm
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    from Orange, CA

    Yep.
    Clean metal real good with a good wax & grease remover.
    Sand metal with 280 or 320 grit sandpaper.
    Mask, clean again and wipe down with a clean Tack-Cloth.
    Spray a coat of Mid-coat clear, follow directions and then spray
    2 to 3 coats of Clear coat.
    This should last like regular paint job.
    Forget spray can, damn near impossible to avoid "dry spots".
     
  21. resqd37Zep
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    Seems like that would be a pain in the ass when it comes time to remove it for real paint.

     
  22. The short answer is yes you can. Chris has had this '37 as a driver in Alice Springs in the Northern Territory for years and hey man, If you can make it in this extreme, hot and shitty and U.V. crazy place, you can make it anywhere. Go for it! Cheers, H.R.D.
     

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  23. chopperdave70
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    from kentucky

    Outside of clear powdercoating which isnt an option for most people I would recommend shark hyde, its generally used in marine enviroments and is awesome stuff
     
  24. MR. FORD
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    from Austin, TX

    Use Scotch-Brite, Gibbs, and keep up with it until it's paint time.
     
  25. ArtGeco
    Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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    from Miami

    I bought a gallon of this stuff.

    http://www.permalac.com/

    I bought the enviro friendly (EF) type
    cause it thins with acetone.
    I have been shooting everything
    with it for the past year or so. Even
    in Miami monsoon season and all
    of our humidity, it has held up great.
    I am also polishing raw steal and shooting
    it and leaving it in the elements. No problem.

    I learned about it from a custom fence/gate
    builder. He says he has used it for years and
    never seen any aging in the product at all.

    I would highly recommend it.
     
  26. Da Tinman
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
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    no need to remove it unless its been damaged, powder makes an excellent base for paint. Scuff it and prime/shoot it.
     
  27. psyclesinc
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    I used this chemical manufactured by Jasco. Its called Prep & Prime
    4-27-2011 017.jpg
     
  28. ratman
    Joined: Jun 15, 2006
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    Try this product. It work extremely well even here in rainy humid New Zealand.
    Hard wearing and very easy to redo. If you want to remove it just use petrol.

    http://www.nyalic.com/

    The Jimmy Keeys 34 has been going strong for several years now and he drives it in all types of weather
     

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