Technical Aug 2011 Banger Meet. Better late then never

[BCCHOPIT]

congratulation!!!! that is cool... thanks for the ride

[Tony Montana]

Sounds like a cool project! I'll be happy to help where I can - shoot me an email: tonymontana357@hotmail.com

Tony

Originally Posted by Nailhead dodge roadster

Does anyone here have experiance with the dodge "Fast Four" bangers from '27-'28? I know the montana dodge boys have ran them on the salt for the past few years so i'll be shooting them an email after this, but i am looking for others with some experiance. I have been kicking around a Dodge based speedster for a while, and the dodge blocks are 5 main bearing right from the factory. I know that they are fairly rare, and nothing exists as far as speed equipment goes, but they just sounds like i fun little engine to mess with.

[HotrodVon]

We have been happy with our Valasco billet 5 main in our racecar. A crank is NOT somthing to skimp on if your planning on making horsepower. A investment in a serious crank is a lot cheaper than blowing a complete engine to smithereens.

-Keven

[RichFox]

My engine is not a fast four. It is the pre 1927 standard engine, with one intake port, gear driven cam and different distributer location. For "Fast Four" info I don't believe you can do beter than the Montana boys.

[Tony Montana]

Thanks Rich!

I'm building one of those single inlet engines too, but it's the older (1924) 3 main block. Street motor for a fellow in Seattle: stock appearing but modern internals and some hop-up for added fun.

[TV]

I will have to agree with Jim, Valasco's cranks are about the same price as Moldex. But the delivery is much longer from Moldex, given the choice the moldex is the way to go. We have a Valasco and are happy, we broke his first one. So go figure.--TV

[HotrodVon]

Originally Posted by Crazydaddyo

There are a few guys running Scat 5 main billet cranks at Bonneville, so we will see how that works out.


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Who is running a SCAT 5 main?

Keven-

[noboD]

Originally Posted by RichFox

My engine is not a fast four.

Sorry Rich, I should have said a four that will be fast. Any news pics of the M&B setup?

[hotrodfil]

Originally Posted by daredevilcustoms

Almost done!
http://youtu.be/xQ9ibm3rRZo

Now that's sweet! Woke me up this morning! And here's the 'up next' link that came up when I played your video. Anyone know more details? It says Model T but the bell housing looks 'A'.



That's a sweet looking T your building there - what are the plans when you've finished it?

[jim galli]

Can someone here help me identify this head? I've heard them called a cheater head. Looks 100% stock but 7:1 -ish compression. Who made it? Any info available?

Thanks for any help.

[TV]

Originally Posted by jim galli

Can someone here help me identify this head? I've heard them called a cheater head. Looks 100% stock but 7:1 -ish compression. Who made it? Any info available?

Thanks for any help.

That looks like one of the new Donovan alum. 7-1 heads without the name.--TV

[Hapydz]

As quoted from OCG...
"See if you can get a couple ''Gross-jets" They don't get the old 'crud makes them leak'' problem as easiy."
Bluto;Since you posted this help tip for me, I have done serveral improvemnts to the roadster including setting the float levels and limits, changed out the electric fuel pump to the stock "B" fuel pump along with a bunch of none fuel related items. I tried a lap around the Crescent this evening , which is in very poor condition, and pulled into the shop only to find the same darn carb was leaking out of the throat and the screened (drain) at the bottom until I tapped the top of the carb with a screw driver handle. The engine runs just fine in the shop where I have run it up to 180deg without any sign of leaking. It seems to me that the jarring of the car when it hits a bump or crack in the pavement causes the float to jam the needle valve in the open position. If this makes any sense to you, do you think the "Gross-Jets" will cure my problem ? Thanks Jim.
Ron
p.s. The Zenith carbs and aluminum fuel tanks are new and crudless.
p.p.s. Anyone else have a solution (other than soften the springs? )

[Bluto]

Ron

I've only had one cup of coffee......

Couple things ..... have you put a level on things to make sure that is OK?

If you can turn each carb upside down and blow into the fuel inlet no air should pass the needle and seat

Did you shake and weigh the floats?

Are the needle and seat the same number on both? Look at the tip of the needle for wear

Switch the needle and seats, floats and see if it still leaks in the same carb..... 1st needles only then, then seats, then floats and make sure the float axles are not woren

Make sure the linkage isn't forcing one carb over full open

If everything above is correct then I'd switch to Groose jets

Please remember I'm not a Ford guy just a mechanic

If the problem is still there you Then machine o-ring lands in the carbs and isolate them by using Weber card spring washers. These ae=re a flat wound spring DON'T BIND THE SPRING BY CLOSING IT COMPLETELY!!!
I would wipe a little Hylomar on the o-ring. Permatex sells it in small tubes. Major auto parts stores sell it. Here I buy it in UK Gal cans

Instead of softer springs you can switch to softer mounts. There can be made with Devcon pourable rubber comes in several 'dops'

You should be able to rock the engine by hand. Make sure when your rocking the engine that the carb linkage isn't effected AT ALL!

Has you brain exploded yet ??

Get to work buddy and good luck.

[Hapydz]

Bluto; Thank God you didn't have two cups of coffee !!
Thanks for all of this , I really appreciate you taking the time.
I will let you know what the problem was ( I hope).
All the best.
Ron
p.s. "Just a mechanic" .....ya, right.

[RichFox]

My Dodge Bros engine has been slowed by a lack of cam timing gears. But that seems to be getting done at last. We fitted the starter yesterday. Lots of those small details to finish. I am going to let some surgery medical practitioner, practice on me, pretty soon. And I hear that I'll be down for a while. Sucks a lot.

[Crazydaddyo]

Good luck with the surgery Rich. I hope all turns out well.


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[fur biscuit]

Originally Posted by RichFox

My Dodge Bros engine has been slowed by a lack of cam timing gears. But that seems to be getting done at last. We fitted the starter yesterday. Lots of those small details to finish. I am going to let some surgery medical practitioner, practice on me, pretty soon. And I hear that I'll be down for a while. Sucks a lot.

out of curiousity, have you tried the guy here in the bay that makes the brass Model T timing gears? (Dan McEachern?) maybe he could whip out a set?

I am going back to get my masters, which i hope gives me default full access to the academy's maching shop, which has all the equipement for cutting gears, maybe up for cutting your own?

hope all goes smoothly with what ever you are up too.

[RichFox]

By the way, due to my first race car being an American Austin pickup with a Crager in High School. And my recent thoughts of rounding the circle. Look what I bought. Would this be cute running a Chevy 4 or what? Time will tell

[HotrodVon]

Neato little car Rich... Good luck with the "tune-up!"


Keven-

[noboD]

Rich, I understand DBs fit in baby pickup truck too. Good luck on the mend. There's a reason they call it practiseing medicine.