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02-19-2011, 08:45 AM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
There were a number of these "hybrids" (as I refer to them) in the 50's, 60's and even into the 70's......
American V8's, European coachwork (mostly Italian). Chassis largely European but occasionally American..... Car--Engine--Body Dual-Ghia-Dodge-Ghia Facel Vega-Chrysler-Facel Gordon-Keeble-Chevy-Bertone Intermeccanica-Chevy-Cumberford Iso Rivolta-Chevy-Giugiaro/Bertone Iso Grifo-Chevy-Giugiaro/Bertone Bizzarrini-Chevy-Giugiaro/Bertone Monteverdi-Chrysler-Frua Shelby Cobra-Ford-Cobra Sunbeam Tiger-Ford-Sunbeam Cunningham C3-Chrysler-Vignale Bristol-Chrysler-Bristol MGB-GT V8-Rover(nee Buick)-MG Fina Sport-Ford or Cadillac-Vignale Cadillac-Cadillac-Pininfarina I'm sure there were others but these are the major cars.... Last edited by oldthudman; 02-21-2011 at 02:50 PM. Reason: misspell |
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02-19-2011, 09:15 AM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
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Intermeccanica also used Ford powerplants Allard- Ford and Cadillac powerplants Cadillac Allante Chryslers with Ghia bodies Chrysler TC Maserati collaboration |
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02-19-2011, 09:27 AM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
Perry Fina lived here in Connecticut, someone should write a book or at least an Automobile Quarterly type feature on his life. He had a shop in New York City that took delivery of every ALLARD that came into the country, he installed the engines, then they went on to the dealers. Perry was an early SCCA owner/driver, his NARDI is restored and racing in Vintage events now.
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02-19-2011, 01:52 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
A similar idea:ffice
 ffice" />Hudson Italia – Hudson - Carrozzeria Touring |
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02-19-2011, 04:28 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
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The "Thomas Special's" were built in numbers......18 total IIRC.....6 by Chrysler and another 12 by Ghia..... The D'Elegance, K310, C200, Fire Arrows II, III, IV, (I was a styling buck only), Desoto Adventurer I, & Adventurer II were all one-offs.....But all had Ghia built bodies. There were a number of other dream car/concepts after these but never had the impact of the first Virgil Exner/Ghia group.....Also there was a Plymouth coupe called the "Explorer" (IIRC it's in the Imperial Car Collection in LV, Nev) Very simlilar to the Dodge Fire Arrow Coupe...Painted a bright green...... Forgot the Chrysler "Falcon" (Ghia) sports car.......3 made. Was aimed at production but the deciders of such things backed out at the last minute I understand. My Granddad had a Dodge/Plymouth agency from the 40's to the mid 60's...Saw several dealer mags articles about the first bunch.....Always loved them..... Joe Bortz has found, restored, and sold a number of these Chrysler dream cars.....Wish they could find the Adventurer I... 
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02-19-2011, 04:48 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
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Right!......Did a Google..........says 26 Hudson Italia's were made.... Just recalled another one.....Studebaker Ghia-Aigle........Saw a mention of it on some car blog(???) 3-5 years ago. It's in some lucky fellows private collection........IMCDB has some pics of it from film frame.......Nice! http://imcdb.org/ Last edited by oldthudman; 02-19-2011 at 06:04 PM. |
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02-19-2011, 07:04 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
 Before the Cobra, Carroll Shelby, Jim Hall and Gary Laughlin had three 1959 Corvette chassis bodied by Carrozzeria Scaglietti in Modena, Italy. The three Texans hoped to put the car into production but the powers at GM didn't think that was such a great idea. Only three were ever built, their aluminum bodies styled after the beautiful Ferrari Tour De France. When FoMoCo came out with their thin-wall V8, Shelby served up the idea again and the rest is history.
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02-19-2011, 07:39 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
Let's not forget the Apollo GT...
Apollo GT - Buick - Intermeccanica |
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02-19-2011, 07:54 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
[QUOTE=fredeuce;6242682]What about the AC Cobra? Yet another and perhaps the most widely known marriage of "Foreign" and American automotive technology.
 hell yeah!! although i guess 66 is not old enough |
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02-19-2011, 09:09 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
These cars take my breath away.
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02-19-2011, 09:16 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
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02-20-2011, 06:44 AM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
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Beautiful!..........That's a new one on me......Right Shelby used the 60°V8 to in the original Cobra.......Sunbeam Alpine Tiger used it too.........Rover/MG/Triumph used the 60° Buick for many years....... Last edited by oldthudman; 02-20-2011 at 06:50 AM. |
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02-20-2011, 06:48 AM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
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No, I had Shelby Cobra, Ford.....The early Cobra and the later 427ci were definility different animals........ Last edited by oldthudman; 02-20-2011 at 10:00 AM. |
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02-20-2011, 09:59 AM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
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Saw an Apollo GT in Vegas (64 or 65 IIRC).......Think it was black.(too long ago).....Very attractive car as I recall...........The little Buick was a nice engine...60° V8, all aluminum....... Also saw a Morgan Plus 4 Plus (+4+) on the same street...(and the same time period) as well as a Lancia Florida......Not "hybrids" but interesting cars....... Last edited by oldthudman; 02-20-2011 at 02:39 PM. Reason: add to text+correction |
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02-20-2011, 10:54 AM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
Did anyone mention the TVR Griffith? Another American (Ford) V-8 powered furrin' sporty car.
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02-20-2011, 01:38 PM
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Yep!.....Your right...................Too, IIRC, the "Bristol" used an American engine at one time..... |
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02-20-2011, 02:23 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
Hudson italia, one my favorites
  
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02-20-2011, 03:00 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
Jensens had American V8s also.
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02-20-2011, 04:36 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
So many times I came close to buying a Muntz or an Iso but backed out. Kicking myself over and over and over...
Even an early fiberglass job would peak my interest nowadays, but the Cunningham would be my first choice. Quote:
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02-20-2011, 04:45 PM
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Re: Italian Body, American Bones.
How about a more common foreign body (British) with American bones (Ford 302)...
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