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Old 01-30-2011, 07:43 AM   #1
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Default Camaro Subframe to a 1951 Mercury

Im about to weld a Camaro Subframe on my stock 1951 Mercury Chassis...I've seen it done several times...But what I wolud like to see here is the nice solutions using the STOCK front clip...I've seen some sets around as you can tell looking in the following pictures!
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:16 PM   #2
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Default Re: Camaro Subframe to a 1951 Mercury

Nothing to add but some inspiration, keep going!
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:48 PM   #3
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Nothing to add but some inspiration, keep going!

Hahahhahaha thats nice...Thanks!
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:00 PM   #4
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Default Re: Camaro Subframe to a 1951 Mercury

Im about to put a camaro clip on a 51 chev fastback.... So im looking for ideas too.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:28 AM   #5
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Im about to put a camaro clip on a 51 chev fastback.... So im looking for ideas too.
I will try to put some pictures as soon as I start the work...
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:45 AM   #6
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Default Re: Camaro Subframe to a 1951 Mercury

...but what im looking for are pictures or information on Mercury Stock Chassis solutions like the ones I post the pictures...Does any one know what those guys did to their chassis on that pictures?
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:09 AM   #7
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ricardo rocha, Thats not a Camaro clip in your post they are custom made A-arms by me. They use 1st gen camaro parts only. They are not a bolt in kit they need to be installed by a very good builder who undestands suspension geometry well. Rick

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Old 01-31-2011, 09:13 AM   #8
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I put a 77 camaro on a 52 chevy car and wheel were very close i used stock chevy wheel 5 x15 with 205 75 15 tires.They now sell narrowed uppers and lower to fix that problem. Handled very good after that.I think the Mercury has more room for wheels and thats a good clip for the mercury.The one in pic look home made maybe stock car racing.
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:38 AM   #9
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ricardo rocha, Thats not a Camaro clip in your post they are custom made A-arms by me. They use 1st gen camaro parts only. They are not a bolt in kit they need to be installed by a very good builder who undestands suspension geometry well. Rick

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Great, Rick!

This is what I was looking for...English is not my first language, so I guess I wasn't expressing myself in a clear way...I will check your website...Do you think would be possible to ship A - arms like yours all the way down to Brazil?

Thanks once more,

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Old 01-31-2011, 09:46 AM   #10
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Default Re: Camaro Subframe to a 1951 Mercury

I put a rear steering Nova front subframe on the 51 merc I had about 30 years ago and we cut the stock frame just behind the stock suspension and slipped the Nova stub in between the rails. the back end of the stub fit up to the X member of the stock frame with just a bit of trimming and made for a solid frame. The stock core support bolted to the front crossmember that holds the sway bar brackets on the stub. It should still work close to the same with a front steering stub.
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:51 AM   #11
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I put a 77 camaro on a 52 chevy car and wheel were very close i used stock chevy wheel 5 x15 with 205 75 15 tires.They now sell narrowed uppers and lower to fix that problem. Handled very good after that.I think the Mercury has more room for wheels and thats a good clip for the mercury.The one in pic look home made maybe stock car racing.
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I put a rear steering Nova front subfra^^e on the 51 ^^erc I had about 30 years ago and we cut the stock fra^^e just behind the stock suspension and slipped the Nova stub in between the rails. the back end of the stub fit up to the X ^^e^^ber of the stock fra^^e with just a bit of tri^^ ^^ing and ^^ade for a solid fra^^e. The stock core support bolted to the front cross^^e^^ber that holds the sway bar brackets on the stub. It should still work close to the sa^^e with a front steering stub.
Yep...I like those ways too...Im up to do something like this to my Merc...Im just wondering if I can avoid cut and weld my chassis...I dont see any problem in doing this but sometimes is good to put some thinking in it before acting!
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:57 AM   #12
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ricardo rocha, Thats not a Camaro clip in your post they are custom made A-arms by me. They use 1st gen camaro parts only. They are not a bolt in kit they need to be installed by a very good builder who undestands suspension geometry well. Rick

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looks like your website is under construction...I really would like to know the price for a set like the one I see in those pictures (A-arms, Break Discs and etc...) and if you would ship it to Brazil...
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:07 AM   #13
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I have done the Camaro/Trans Am front clip before. It's easy to do as far as the joint to the stock Merc frame. I won't do another one as long as there are early rear steer Nova units out there. What I don't like about that unit is the tire track is to wide. Yes I know you can get narrowed A-Frames,,,but why? The early Nova is 3" narrower already. The other issues are the steering box is a Blister when trying to hang a rad. back where it belongs. You half to cut up the core support to clear. Also hanging a mount for the core support is a pain with the steering link right in the way. With the Rear steer unit none of these issues are there. Here are 2 shots of the T/A on a Merc. There is also a Nova on my 51 Ford chassis. It's a way better choice.
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Old 01-31-2011, 05:34 PM   #14
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Use a Jag XJ6 front end
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Old 01-31-2011, 06:15 PM   #15
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I subframed my 51 merc with a 73 omega (nova) it worked out great,,as Pist-n-Broke said the early rear steer subframes are the best to use the steering box lines back up to the column very well this way .. I bought a vedio from then Mr. Merc and just followed the steps ..Tommy Stediem (SPELLING NOT RIGHT ) made the vedio and it is right on perfect.. It was still a little wide and I used 1950 chevy steel wheels the off set was just right then !!GOOD LUCK !!
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:56 PM   #16
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I would like to know if is possible to import a Camaro subframe all the way down form USA? Does anyone here have a Subframe to sell to me?
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:22 PM   #17
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Default Re: Camaro Subframe to a 1951 Mercury

there are a couple of nice kits that will bolt on to the mercury front suspension also if you are interested. Fatman Fabrications, and Jamco. i have used the Fatman components, very easy to install, only setback is they machine your spindles to run a ford or chevy brake rotor, so you have to send them a set of spindles, jamcos i believe are a direct bolt on. the lowered upwrights on both kits i believe are about 2.5". this merc has the fatman components and air ride on the front
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:26 PM   #18
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Im yet to start on my Merc but Ive got a full Jamco kit including Discs.

Looks like nice stuff, hope it works out

Matts correct Fatman need your spindles thats why I went Jamco and I think I got an HAMB Alliance discount
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:40 PM   #19
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If given the opportunity, I'd do as per sldnmatt, simple, and effective, with great results, and no subframe or complication.

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Old 02-01-2011, 11:56 PM   #20
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Still waiting for Jamco for my front suspension. I think they are waiting for a volume run for the kits. I still want the kit though.
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