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Old 01-18-2011, 06:12 PM   #1
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Default maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

Here is my dilemma....every time I go to working on anything and get to a point I need a bolt to connect parts together I have to guess what size jump in the truck and go to lowes to find the right length and right size bolt or god forbid nut this results in lots of trips or lugging in the part to fit a bolt to.....The smart thing would be to pic up extra why I’m at the hardware store but it never happens......My question is I have seen someplace where I can by a metal case with sliders that have nuts and bolts already in it or a set of metric or standard....I’ve checked harbor freight and northern tools and googled it but still can’t find a set of different size bolts just to outright buy......yea I’m lazy like that but having to guess on size and length is a pet peeve
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:17 PM   #2
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Grainger or Mc Master Carr, They should have kits.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:19 PM   #3
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These guys may be able to help

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Old 01-18-2011, 06:19 PM   #4
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

I had a teacher that would buy nuts and bolts a box at a time and put them in his cabinet, that way if he needed another one down he just checked his "stock"
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:21 PM   #5
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

A search done here, on fastener qualiti(es) will turn up some helpful info too. It's worth buying the good material, over the less reliable stuff.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:21 PM   #6
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

Bolts from HF would be as soft as butter.

Go to an ACE hardware and just buy yourself a nice selection of grade 5 or 8's

I was lucky enough to come across a huge box of bolts at a garage sale once. I have not sorted them but tehyre ina 5 gallon bucket and i will dump it on the floor if i need a bolt from that and then sift through it then use a shovel to scoop em up and back into the bucket. And at another, a box of all kinda of sbc bolts.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:22 PM   #7
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

Thanks for the links and sugestions.....yea I could buy by the box but I have yet to find a local place that sells by the box and for grade 8 it would be madness to buy them
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:29 PM   #8
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

Do you have a Fastenall in you area? They will come to your shop as often as you want or need and they have the shelf with the drawers your looking for. Aveeco is another company, they do trim clips and body shop stuff.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:31 PM   #9
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Bolts from HF would be as soft as butter.

Go to an ACE hardware and just buy yourself a nice selection of grade 5 or 8's

I was lucky enough to come across a huge box of bolts at a garage sale once. I have not sorted them but tehyre ina 5 gallon bucket and i will dump it on the floor if i need a bolt from that and then sift through it then use a shovel to scoop em up and back into the bucket. And at another, a box of all kinda of sbc bolts.
Yea I had one of those mine was a coffe can and I let my brother use it and never got it back....
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:33 PM   #10
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I do have a [/I]Fastenall I just thought you had to have a commercial account to buy from them
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:39 PM   #11
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Try an auto parts store. Around here O'riley's has plastic boxes metric or standard with five or ten of each common size nut bolt and washer. Also o-rings, cotter pins, ect.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se...ts=15&sortBy=1
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:39 PM   #12
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Check them out sometimes all an account requires a good credit report and a bank reference.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:46 PM   #13
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My favorite bolt supplier

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Old 01-18-2011, 06:53 PM   #14
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If you have a caterpillar dealer close by, you can buy grade 8 bolts inpacks of a dozen in all different lengths at half the price of any other bolt dealer. These are USA made high spec bolts.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:05 PM   #15
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Fastenall will take cash or charge card if you stop in and pick up anything.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:09 PM   #16
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

Check out Graingers (ackland grainger for us Northern folk) once every other month or so they have either a Grade 5 or Grade 8 kit on sale. Comes with 1000's of fasteners and a metal storage bin. Usually runs around $400 but I figure its worth it. If I am building from the ground up I can see at least $250 on one vehicle.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:11 PM   #17
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Got a Tractor Supply near you? All normal sizes, Grade 2 (or whatever garden variety is), grade 5 & grade 8. Nuts, bolts, washers, lockwashers. All bulk, by weight.
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Got a Tractor Supply near you? All normal sizes, Grade 2 (or whatever garden variety is), grade 5 & grade 8. Nuts, bolts, washers, lockwashers. All bulk, by weight.
yeah,TSC is a great place for bolts..bought 2 1" number 8 pitch nuts for the rear of the quarter midget...total cost----- .80...yeah eighty cents..they sell by weight according to scrap prices....very few places even stocked a nut this big..and no one else had it in a 8 pitch.. one really coarse sucker
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:28 PM   #19
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I have a Fastenall account. Cash. No surprise bill at the end of the month. Not quite wholesale pricing at the level I buy but it is cheaper than retail.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:37 PM   #20
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

Boltdepot.com is where I got a set. Not cheap, but shipped right to the door. I didn't buy the slider rack, but should have. It's on my bday wish list for next month.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:51 PM   #21
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

At the building supply center I run, I made sure I started carrying all sizes of grade 8 and 5 coarse and fine. It makes working on my projects very easy.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:17 PM   #22
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

Several years ago I got sick & tired of running out to buy a couple of bolts every time I turned around, so I took a hundred bucks, visited my local Auveco dealer and bought nuts, bolts and lockwahsers of various lengths in both fine & coarse thread and in grade 5 & 8, by the box. When my stock runs low, I replenish it. Makes life a lot easier.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:27 PM   #23
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I've got two of these cabinets full of bins of bolts. Everytime I have to buy a bolt I get a whole box.. The ones I dont immediately use I store in the bins.. After about 3 years I seldom have to "go to the store" to get a bolt anymore. One christmas I asked for "bolts" from santa. My wife, sister, and all my friends got me gift certificates at the hardware store and I bought about 200.00 worth of bolts.
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

i always see the bins being sold at the swop meets and flea markets, start with a nice bin with lots of spaces put the basic stuff [1/4 through 1/2 nuts washers and some 3/4" through 1.5" bolts] and keep adding to it
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:44 PM   #25
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I do have a [/I]Fastenall I just thought you had to have a commercial account to buy from them

Nope, just money , I have saved hardware from last 10-12 parts cars it's a cheap way to accumulate and also gives you the oddball bolts, studs, etc.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:46 PM   #26
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On my trips for hardware, I always buy at least twice what I need (sometimes 5x). I still have to make trips to the store, but not as many or as often.

Whole boxes are too expensive for me.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:19 PM   #27
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

A lot of the ag supply stores have "bulk bolts" you buy them by the pound and can mix and match. The local place has grade 5 and that is good enough 90% of the time.

Figure out what you want to spend at the time and fll a sack or box up with the number of pounds of mixed bolts that it takes to reach that dollar amount.

Cat equipment has a good assortment of grade 8 bolts but you need to know what you want.
Lawson fasteners "True Torque" bolts are probably the best in the regular market but you pay dearly for them. But worth hunting out for critical applications.

Again around this area which is primarily a farming area I have seen AG equipment dealers have great deals on bolt bins with bolts in their parts departments.

Learn the sizes. All fasteners are measured by the size of the shank and not the size of wrench they take no matter what the guys in the Army tell you.

a simple size chart for standard bolts is

1/4 inch takes a 7/16 wrench
5/16 takes a 1/2 wrench
3/8 takes a 9/16 wrench
7/16 takes a 5/8 wrench while some 1/16 nuts use a 11/16 wrench.
1/2 takes a 3/4 wrench

Bolt length is measured by the length of the round part and the head isn't included.

Those are the ones we reach for and have to figure out every day.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:42 PM   #28
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they have those cheap plastic gages that tell size of bolt and nut. and the nuts it will even tell if it's fine or coarse. you can also just measure the bolt diam and use a thread gage, little trickier to do on nuts.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:52 PM   #29
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When it comes to subjects like this,everybody has a preference based on past experience. I like this place: http://www.sherco-auto.com/sap.htm
Get on his weekly email specials list. You'll see why
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:59 PM   #30
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Bought an oddball sized #14 pan head (phillips head) machined threaded (25) for 3 dollars at FASTENAL last week. Oh yeah-- they had to special order them. Would of bought more in different lengths if I knew they were that affordable. Try 90 cents a piece at the hardware store. If they even have them.
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:17 PM   #31
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What about bolt kits designed for specific applications maybe ARP etc.?
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:24 PM   #32
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As far as trying to figure out exact size nut/bolt, I bring out my tap & die set, figure what fits and then I "Test"all the loose ones and place them all in a bin with a quick label, Also if you compare $ for a few items vs. a box , its a lot cheaper per box.
considering the price of gas these days
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Kind of funny this came up this week. My buddy I share the garage with and I have been reworking our bench stock trying to do some organizing and make the search a little easier. We have a lot of bench stock ( thanks XYZ Company that my buddy works for ). We thought the project through and finally decided on this bench, We used old blue bins that were yard sale stuff. We built the bench from wood and made a specific place for each size. We put a hole in the work top to make getting everything back in the bin easier.
Just finished it tonight
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My wife worked at an aircraft factory for 11 years. If they dropped a bolt or nut or washer they figgured it was cheaper to get another one rather than pick it up. At night when they swept the floor she would put them in a container and when it got full she would take them home. I still have two cans full and i just used several today on my project 53 ford. I dont know how they grade them but are at least grade 8.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:58 PM   #35
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Rule Co at 6th and Rockford will sell to you, C&H at 6523 E Independence will also. I am sure there are others.
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http://www.pai-net.com/

^^^^These guys are phenomenal ^^^^^
You need to register to shop but they have exactly what your looking for and a whole bunch of other stuff too. Local for me but they ship & have a few satellites.

Around here there is another local bolt Wharehouse. Its freaking huge retail free zone but they will sell direct to the public in any quantity IF you know exactly what you want. They have any single threaded thing ever created by man. The prices are insanely cheap . ABOUT 70% of H DEPOT, LOWES, ECT.

M.E. MARTIN is the name & nobody in the public knows they sell bolts . The ship plenty of stuff too.
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When I was running my shop I never bought hardware in anything less than 100ct. box lots and had 3 of those segregated specialty storage bins to put them in. Now that I'm retired I only go to buy fasteners about twice a year and make a list before I go and replentish anything I'm low on, still in 100 ct boxes.

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Got a Tractor Supply near you? All normal sizes, Grade 2 (or whatever garden variety is), grade 5 & grade 8. Nuts, bolts, washers, lockwashers. All bulk, by weight.

i buy all my bolts from tractory supply , went there last week for some i think they were like $1.50 a pound. you just cant beat that.
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We put a hole in the work top to make getting everything back in the bin easier.
Just finished it tonight
brilliant. I'm stealing that.
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I have drawers full too, I was lucky enough to get boxes full when they cleaned out the other hanger at work, they threw out bags and boxes full of AN and stainless steel nuts and bolts, as well as screws etc. If you look on a certain auction site, a lot of people sell assorted grab bags of different hardware, often from cleaning out stock or unused stuff. Another idea, if you have an old fashioned type yard near you, offer them ten bucks for all the hardware you can pick up on the ground or laying around loose in cars. it just gets buried in the dirt and no one ever uses it.i
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Nope, just money , I have saved hardware from last 10-12 parts cars it's a cheap way to accumulate and also gives you the oddball bolts, studs, etc.
That's the ticket! Whenever I part out a car, I save every nut, bolt and washer. I've got a lifetime supply!
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Got a Tractor Supply near you? All normal sizes, Grade 2 (or whatever garden variety is), grade 5 & grade 8. Nuts, bolts, washers, lockwashers. All bulk, by weight.
Ditto Tractor Supply, and around here we have 2 other farm supply store chains; one's called Farm 'n' Fleet the other Fleet Farm. Both carry three grades of hardware by the pound. You can set yourself up with a starting assortment pretty cheaply.

My only gripe is they only carry coarse thread btp, fine thread is in small packages or by the piece.
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we have an atwoods farm supply place that sells grade 5 and 8's by the pound, when ever i start running low will go load-up
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Here is my dilemma....every time I go to working on anything and get to a point I need a bolt to connect parts together I have to guess what size jump in the truck and go to lowes to find the right length and right size bolt or god forbid nut this results in lots of trips or lugging in the part to fit a bolt to.....The smart thing would be to pic up extra why Iím at the hardware store but it never happens......My question is I have seen someplace where I can by a metal case with sliders that have nuts and bolts already in it or a set of metric or standard....Iíve checked harbor freight and northern tools and googled it but still canít find a set of different size bolts just to outright buy......yea Iím lazy like that but having to guess on size and length is a pet peeve
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some farm/tractor stores sell bolts & etc by the pound . much cheaper this way. around here we have Tractor Supply and Farm and Fleet stores
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I do the same thing with bolts as well as brass fittings and any plumbing parts. Buy in quantity, store the rest. I have my own hardware store now!
I also get wiring heat shrink by the roll, and terminals in bulk.
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

Try Rule co., kinda downtown Tulsa, We buy a lot of fasteners there for work.
Also i think Eagle nut and bolt is around 51st. and 101st
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:25 AM   #48
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Default Re: maybe OT but Nuts and bolts..............

I save all nuts, bolts, special fasteners from all my parts cars over the years, I must have $10K in SAE and Metric hardware, special engine brackets and oddball mounting bolts, rarely do I have to buy, I consider it "free to me" just use thread restorer tools to clean, not tap and die.
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