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Old 10-27-2010, 09:57 PM   #1
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Default Peoria IL 1965 Wild Wedge Altered - anyone remember this car?

I have been amazed at the information discovered on the HAMB, particularly involving old race cars. My father in law and I often talk cars, and I have been pushing him for information about his experiences in the early 60s. He did a fair amount of "un-authorized" racing with a 265 powered 55 chevy and later in a 326 powered LeMans. He also spent some time helping his cousin, Harley Doubet, who ran an Altered out of the Peoria IL area called the "Wild Wedge".

The car was powered by an injected 413 based Chrysler (corrected by Chuck, it was a 426 wedge), and apparently had a fair amount of success. He ran at Cordova, IL, Kahoka, MO, somewhere in Michigan (they were in the IL Air National Guard, and brought the car on some Guard duties so it may have been at a track near the base at Alpena, MI); presumably Milan MI, US 30 (Indiana) and I am also guessing it ran at Alton, IL due to the proximity, and possibly the eighth mile at Beardstown, IL.

They did run once at the Boondocks strip outside of Peoria on a match race against the National Championship winning Willys gasser of Selkirk and Bork, also out of Peoria.

The car was in the March 1966 issue of "All American Drags" magazine out of Chicago as well, and I would love to find a copy if anyone has any leads.

I am told that eventually Harley partnered with a person with the last name Pitchard or possibly Pritchard on the car around 1965-66.

Family responsibilities and the career at Caterpillar called my father in law out of racing. The 413 was set to be replaced by a Mark IV Chevy, tragically, Harley was killed in a shop accident while working on the car. My FIL remembers that the partner took over, but we haven't discovered any additional information.

The pictures posted were found on the web, on a photo account by a 'randyoldgeek', and are labeled as being from Kahoka, MO. The Selkirk and Bork car is shown, because you can see the transporter for the Doubet car in the background. It is pretty distinctive for the era, particularly since it is an enclosed trailer. I attempted to get more information from the person who took the pictures, but the account has been disabled and the pictures are no longer posted. If 'randyoldgeek' would like me to take the photos down, I will comply.

I am curious about the construction of the car as well, and the frame/roll bar look very similar to other Altereds I have seen. Logghe chassis?

My FIL is an all-around great guy, and the last time we spoke about the car he really got going with the memories, mentioning not only the car in question, but also seeing Selkirk and Bork, Myers and Hampy, the Greek and other midwest favorites. I would love to be able to share some more photos or memories of the car with him. If anyone has any more information, stories, photos, or the ultimate - information on where the car ended up, please let me know!

Thanks in advance!!
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:41 PM   #2
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I don't have any specific info for you as the cars were before my time. It's possible that Harley Doubet was connected up with Courtney-Doubet, a local IH dealer, or Doubet Window & Door, a (surprise!) metal window/door/awning manufacturer.

"Bork", I believe, was connected with Bork & Sons, a well-known local metal recycler in the '60s & '70s. The facility has since changed ownership and names several times.
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:54 AM   #3
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Thanks Homespun. Harley was the son of Ed Doubet, from the seed company of the same name, which is just outside Hanna City. I don't think the family is involved in the company any longer, but I am not certain.
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That 23T looks very much like a car I owned and raced here in S.E. Mich back around '79-'83. I will have to dig up some old pics.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:19 AM   #5
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:09 PM   #6
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Thanks model.A.keith!

motage, please let me know when you are able to round up your pictures!
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:31 PM   #7
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Did the car ever race at Rockford Dragway? (byron, IL. now car Byron Dragway).

If it did much, I might have it on video. A friend of mine is in a similar situation trying to find his grandfather's injection 426 wedge powered 32 bantam A/R.

the footage of it is around '66 there were T buckets in the footage along with the bantam.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:01 PM   #8
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Von Hartmann

It would make sense that he ran at Rockford as well, I will ask my father in law. Also he did mention that it ran in a different color as well, gotta find that out also.

BTW your artwork is excellent, the spray bomb helmets you did inspired my 15 year old to flake our garage fridge.

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Old 10-29-2010, 09:04 AM   #9
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The partner on the altered was Dennis Pitcher. [AKA "Buffalo".] His family owned the grain milling company in Peoria. Dennis is now deceased.
The chassis and such was built by Powers and Riley, out of Iowa.
[I used to spend time w/ Buff and Harley, and was there just before Harley was electrocuted w/ a welder.]

The gasser 57 was owned by Al Meers and Dick Hampy..
The other altered that was from the area was owned by Bill Johnson & Jack ??. Ran out of Bill's house/shop in E. Peoria. Was BBC powered.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:14 AM   #10
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Just typed a long reply only to get timed out or something! Awrgh!!!! I have some pics and some info. PM me I will call you. I hate effin around typing when I can still talk.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:26 AM   #11
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Motage, one way to do long posts is to type it in Word or some other program & copy & paste to the reply box.

Another way is to type it out in the reply box...but, before you hit send, highlight it and "copy" it..then hit the reply button. If you do lose the post, you can just paste it right back on and try again.

Love to hear it if you feel like typing it out again.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:29 AM   #12
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The partner on the altered was Dennis Pitcher. [AKA "Buffalo".] His family owned the grain milling company in Peoria. Dennis is now deceased.
Thanks Old Buzzard, that is great information! Any idea if they ran at Rockford?
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Just typed a long reply only to get timed out or something! Awrgh!!!! I have some pics and some info. PM me I will call you. I hate effin around typing when I can still talk.
Big thanks, PM sent.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:02 PM   #14
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Bump, thanks.
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It would make sense that he ran at Rockford as well, I will ask my father in law. Also he did mention that it ran in a different color as well, gotta find that out also.

BTW your artwork is excellent, the spray bomb helmets you did inspired my 15 year old to flake our garage fridge.
Hey thanks, I'm glad my art inspired somebody to do something cool and productive.
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I can tell you all about The Wild Wedge. Denny Pitcher and Harley Doubet were the original owners. I was the crew chief. Chassis was built by Powers and Riley from Dubuque, IA. Engine was a bone stock '63 Mopar 426 Max Wedge. Only non Mopar parts were the Enderle Injection and the Isky cam and kit. Long story as to why Harley bought out Denny (with my money) and the name on the doors became Harley Doubet. I have lots of pictures. Car did race at Rockford. After Harley died in a welding accident when we were building a new trailer, I rebuilt the car and raced it until it was sold. Car was later changed to a hemi with a torqueflite Trans. We ran it with a Donovan direct drive.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:16 PM   #18
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Hey... I know Denny Pitcher, I haven't seen him in several years though. Still working on cars - last I knew.
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Did the car ever race at Rockford Dragway? (byron, IL. now car Byron Dragway).

If it did much, I might have it on video. A friend of mine is in a similar situation trying to find his grandfather's injection 426 wedge powered 32 bantam A/R.

the footage of it is around '66 there were T buckets in the footage along with the bantam.
We did run Rockford several times. Here is a picture at Rockford in '65
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It would make sense that he ran at Rockford as well, I will ask my father in law. Also he did mention that it ran in a different color as well, gotta find that out also.

BTW your artwork is excellent, the spray bomb helmets you did inspired my 15 year old to flake our garage fridge.
The car was painted in metalflake red by Noel Mauer in Dubuque, IA and lettered in hand turned gold leaf by Fred Hazelrig in Peoria. This is the only color we raced it in, and sold it to Ray Bristol and Len Hendrich from Peoria. The last time I saw the car it was still the original color.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:01 PM   #21
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Chuck, thank you so much for replying to this thread, this is more information than I ever hoped to receive. And finding out the chassis was built by famous Iowans Powers and Riley, (builders of the reverser) is so cool. I sent you an email and hope we can speak next week. Thanks for posting the pictures, they are great!



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Old 12-31-2010, 07:28 AM   #22
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Just an update, thanks to all who replied, and special thanks to Chuck Burt, one of the original partners on this car! Chuck provided me with some GREAT pictures and lots of information, I will post pics soon.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:29 AM   #23
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FINALLY getting around to posting more photos:

All pics courtesy of Chuck Burt, one of Doubet's partners back then. Can't thank Chuck enough for his valuable info and great stories (I will add those eventually as well)

Peoria IL 1965



Peoria 1965 match race vs National Champs Selkirk and Bork gasser.



Peoria (later Boondocks Dragway) 1965. Photo by Bob Coyle



Rockford May 1965



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More photos from Chuck Burt:

Chuck in the trailer, very nice setup for the day!



Cover of All American Drags, a short-lived Chicago based publication. (The old Pellegrini Mustang, later Dick Lohr on the cover, also the Selkirk and Bork Willys, not sure what the slingshot is).









Nice detail shots of the FI:









Harley and Chuck:



Cover of Drag News!


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Old 02-18-2012, 12:32 PM   #25
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One more from Cordova...

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Very cool!!! Thanks for posting. My oldest brother ran at Rockford, (Byron), Dragway and Cordova, back in the mid 60's. My second oldest brother ran at Boondocks and Havana.

Does anyone know if this car still exhists? How about the Selkirk and Bork Willys? Seems like Selkirk and Bork also ran a 40 Willys, at one time? Last I knew there are some Selkirks still living over in Canton ILL.
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Very cool!!! Thanks for posting. My oldest brother ran at Rockford, (Byron), Dragway and Cordova, back in the mid 60's. My second oldest brother ran at Boondocks and Havana.

Does anyone know if this car still exhists? How about the Selkirk and Bork Willys? Seems like Selkirk and Bork also ran a 40 Willys, at one time? Last I knew there are some Selkirks still living over in Canton ILL.
Last time I saw the car was in '69 or'70. I was a field engineer for Ford based in St.Louis and Gene Bristol (one of the 2 partners that I sold the car to) called me and said that they were coming down from Peoria to race at the strip in in East St. Louis and wanted to know if I would come help them. I jumped at the chance. Bythis time, the car had a hemi and torqflite and the formerly solid rear axle was sprung. Have not seen or heard anything since then. I was 24 - 25 years old when the above pictures were taken. Gordie Selkirk was in his late 50's - early 60's. I doubt that he is still with us. Saul Bork was probably in his early 30's and could very well be still alive. Since I no longer live in Peoria, I am somewhat out of touch. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for jumping back in Chuck! I wonder the car is still around in some form.
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6 month bump! Thanks again HAMB.
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:21 PM   #30
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Glad you "bumped it" now only if we can see it run at Byron this weekend....
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Glad you "bumped it" now only if we can see it run at Byron this weekend....
Are you saying that the car has been found????
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I think it was wishful thinking by wingnutz, since the Meltdown drags are this weekend in Byron. It would be great to see it run at Rockford again. Or do you have some info wingnutz?
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I think it was wishful thinking by wingnutz, since the Meltdown drags are this weekend in Byron. It would be great to see it run at Rockford again. Or do you have some info wingnutz?
I would certainly fly out to see that.
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great pics and story guys! thanks for posting. sure would be kool if the ole hamb could turn up that altered.
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I think it was wishful thinking by wingnutz, since the Meltdown drags are this weekend in Byron. It would be great to see it run at Rockford again. Or do you have some info wingnutz?
Not found... just wishful thinking!

Many of the old drag cars have been dug up out of barns and garages these past years and not far from where they raced.

I have a "hoarder friend" that has Drag Willys coupes, Anglias, Henry J's all shoved in his barn and they'll NEVER see the light of day until his family sells it off after he dies... many have raced Great lLakes Dragway, US 30, Michigan, and a couple were competitive on the National circuit with records and trophy's.

What a waste sitting there when they could be on the tracks running exhibition or on an active show circuit.
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Not found... just wishful thinking!

Many of the old drag cars have been dug up out of barns and garages these past years and not far from where they raced.

I have a "hoarder friend" that has Drag Willys coupes, Anglias, Henry J's all shoved in his barn and they'll NEVER see the light of day until his family sells it off after he dies... many have raced Great lLakes Dragway, US 30, Michigan, and a couple were competitive on the National circuit with records and trophy's.

What a waste sitting there when they could be on the tracks running exhibition or on an active show circuit.
While it would be great to see the cars out on the track, your hoarder friend deserves a round of thanks for keeping the cars from being scrapped, plus if they are stored inside, so much the better. Although I hope they get sold before he goes, and not scrapped by the family after.

Perhaps he would let you take some pictures to share? I would be happy to come along!
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While it would be great to see the cars out on the track, your hoarder friend deserves a round of thanks for keeping the cars from being scrapped, plus if they are stored inside, so much the better. Although I hope they get sold before he goes, and not scrapped by the family after.

Perhaps he would let you take some pictures to share? I would be happy to come along!
I agree but his family would rather scrap them for the quick cash. So in a sense... it's like paying the cannibals to eat you last! It's inevitable what's going to happen and if he doesn't anticipate the outcome it plainly displays his ignorance and carelessness towards these historic pieces of Americana!

And I agree that he should let me in there with a camera before his demise so we all can enjoy what he has gathered over the years.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:10 PM   #38
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Keep working on 'em wingnutz, even if only a few get saved. Once the physical portions of history are gone, all that's left is memories.
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Bump -- any news?????
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:56 AM   #40
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Nothing to add, except a link here to results article from Cordova World Series results, '65? Wish they had more detail in the article. Cool to see the other names there that year like Bleeker, Ditmar, Selkirk and Wasson.

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Old 03-17-2013, 02:02 PM   #41
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I've nothing to add here of any substance, but I want to mention my appreciation of this thread for the memories it provoked. I knew Al Mears and Dick Hampy pretty well back in the day before I moved out of East Peoria. Lots of us car guys met at Mac's Cafe on Friday and Saturday late nights for bench racing sessions, and that included Al and Dick. Dick is gone now, but I understand Al is still with us, but back down south where he grew up. I can't remember how many times I helped get Al's gravel-filled spare tire out of his trunk on his '56 after he weighed in ... LOL!! Thanks again.
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Thank you Barry! I have the Hot Rod (1965-66?) with the Mears and Hampy 57 around here somewhere, I'll scan the pics If I find it.
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Hey Chuck, do you think this is the Wedge starting at about 0:30 in this footage from Peoria? Good profile shot at 0:36.


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I think you are right. We were the only altered running a direct drive, everyone else used at least 2 gears of a transmission. We left the line in a cloud of smoke like the dragsters. Other than the 2 rails, this is the only other smoke show on the clip, but I don't see the chute come out. I don't recall that we ever did not use the chute at Peoria because of the relatively short, slightly downhill, mostly gravel shutoff with a sharp right at the end. I would guess it to be 1965 and am 95% sure it is the Wedge. Wish they would have shown the chase truck following the car down, that would have nailed it.
Did anything ever come from the guy early in the thread whose father ran a bantam altered at Rockford and he said he had films?? The picture of the Wedge at Rockford is passing a bantam in the left lane.I had hoped that he might have come up with some footage.
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My dad is Denny Pitcher, he passed away a few years ago. He used to tell me stories about this car. I may have some pictures in storage, I will have to dig through and see if I can find anything. I would love hearing any additional info on this car as well.
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I would love to hear from you and see any of the pictures you can find. You can e-mail me at chuckb41@aol.com

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My dad is Denny Pitcher, he passed away a few years ago. He used to tell me stories about this car. I may have some pictures in storage, I will have to dig through and see if I can find anything. I would love hearing any additional info on this car as well.
Glad you found this thread! As a courtesy please do an intro thread in the new members section. Hope you can find some more pictures, that would be great and much appreciated!
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I think you are right. We were the only altered running a direct drive, everyone else used at least 2 gears of a transmission. We left the line in a cloud of smoke like the dragsters. Other than the 2 rails, this is the only other smoke show on the clip, but I don't see the chute come out. I don't recall that we ever did not use the chute at Peoria because of the relatively short, slightly downhill, mostly gravel shutoff with a sharp right at the end. I would guess it to be 1965 and am 95% sure it is the Wedge. Wish they would have shown the chase truck following the car down, that would have nailed it.
Did anything ever come from the guy early in the thread whose father ran a bantam altered at Rockford and he said he had films?? The picture of the Wedge at Rockford is passing a bantam in the left lane.I had hoped that he might have come up with some footage.
Thanks Chuck, I viewed quite a few old youtube videos during bouts of insomnia, hoping to catch a glimpse of the car. No luck yet beyond this one. Regarding the video from Rockford, VonH will post if he is able to see the tape again, there's only one copy known out there.
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Bump. Just heard from Harley's youngest son, also named Harley -- but not Jr. I hope that we can come up with more pictures and or videos for him and I still hold out hope that the car can be located.
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Wow Chuck that is cool that you heard from his son. Hope we can turn up more info.
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Does any one have any pics of Gordy Selkirk's 34 Ford coupe that he had. A friend of mine bought it from him in the early to mid 60's.
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Does any one have any pics of Gordy Selkirk's 34 Ford coupe that he had. A friend of mine bought it from him in the early to mid 60's.
Does your friend still have it?
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No, last known sighting of it was around Cedarville, Orangeville area in a basement garage and it was in pretty rough shape. Originally had a Olds motor, then a Pontiac and finally a Chevy.
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My wife went to high school in Matawan, Mi w/Gordy Selkirk's son, Reed. He sent the circa '61 b&w pic of the '33 Willys to her after Gordy passed away last month. Internet search of Selkirk & Bork team brings me back to the HAMB [ha! no damn surprise]. Gonna get in touch w/Reed & see what other info I can drum up on their cars.........
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.....UPDATE: Reed Selkirk [Gordy's son] found the '33 Willys & is very actively pursuing the current owner to purchase it.
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Cool g-man hope it works out.
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What a great post of guys tracking down the history and the people involved in a very cool car...glad I stumbled over this one! 426 MoPar wedge...incredible.
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(What a great post of guys tracking down the history and the people involved in a very cool car...glad I stumbled over this one! 426 MoPar wedge...incredible. "honeyman")

I will second that statement, just love these history posts and am amazed at the people connections that develop.

Chuckb41, can I ask you a question? A 426 wedge with direct drive setup were you running nitro in that beast? If so, do you remember percentages, cam specs, compression ratio, etc. What did it take to make that Altered run?

I am amazed at how a few young guys in that period could put a pretty involved car and combo together and run it reliably week after week? In todays world, it seems like everyone over complicates things. I feel like it was, in a way, much simpler back then to work hard and "just do it".
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i grew up in the peoria area and did a lot of unsanctioned raceing i remember some pretty serious cars from that area naramores king rat camaro, larry shepherds agitator, art hatfields 57 chevy, the gang from hanks standard in bartonville. anyone else remember some of these cars
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(What a great post of guys tracking down the history and the people involved in a very cool car...glad I stumbled over this one! 426 MoPar wedge...incredible. "honeyman")

I will second that statement, just love these history posts and am amazed at the people connections that develop.

Chuckb41, can I ask you a question? A 426 wedge with direct drive setup were you running nitro in that beast? If so, do you remember percentages, cam specs, compression ratio, etc. What did it take to make that Altered run?

I am amazed at how a few young guys in that period could put a pretty involved car and combo together and run it reliably week after week? In todays world, it seems like everyone over complicates things. I feel like it was, in a way, much simpler back then to work hard and "just do it".
We never ran the car on Nitro -- pump gas only and always Gulf Crest premium from a sponsor. I have no idea what the cam specs were. Isky was a sponsor and initially we filled out a complete spec sheet on the car for him and said "grind us a cam! He sponsored Powers and Riley and they knew he was lloking for a gas altered in the midwest to sponsor and set us up. Every time we ran the car, I would call Ed Iskederian the next work day morning and report where we ran, ET's and speeds, ambient temps, day, night, humidity, timing advance, etc. He would always ask what more we felt we needed.We were always answering "more mid-range torque. With a direct drive (no slipper clutches back then) there arrives a point where the tire ceases to spin and grabs the track. In a slingshot rail, the tires are right next to the driver and the solution was to tap the clutch at that instant when the tire grabs and the motor would bog down. Couldn't see the slicks on the altered, and thus we were asking for mid range torque. He would send us another cam and if it was better, we kept it and sent the previous one back. We started out running 10.30's in the high 130's. 3 or 4 cams later we were in the 10.0's and low 140's. The next cam out of the box raan 10.0's and 158 mph. We improved over that weekend by playing with timing, tire pressures, injector jets, and a temporary rear view mirror (to see the tire smoke) and got into the 9.9's and 160 mph. We continued reporting and several times, Ed would say "I have an idea" and a new cam would arrive. Some worked and some were worse, but we ended up running 9.7's at 163+ mph. The compression ratio was stock Stage 3 (10.5 - 11.0 to 1). Gotta remember that the Stage 3 was a race motor and built with goodies stamped with MoPar part #s (Forgetrue pistons, CSC crank, etc. Our biggest regular maintenence problem was the center main bearing inserts. It had the thrust surface controling end play in the crank. Dropping the hammer at 7 or 8,000 rpms would wear out the thrust surface in 3 - 4 weekends.
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