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Old 10-10-2010, 07:13 PM   #21
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Another hot rod with Chrysler axle,
T-modified by Jimmy Bs 1925 Chev, on Flickr
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:15 PM   #22
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In automotive engineering parlance, an axle of this construction where the axle end straddles the spindle is known as an "Elliot type". The style we are most accustomed to where the spindle straddles the axle is known as "Reverse Elliot". Many brands of automoblie used the Elliot type (Including Ford) in the twenties. Most switched to the Reverse Elliot sometime in the early thirties. The Dodge /Plymouth "wavy" axles of the thirties are Reverse Elliot (As are all the Fords from 1928). Further, I've not seen any Dodge/Plymouth that had a "spigoted" construction with a separate forging or casting attached to the outer ends of the tube. That system was usually peculiar to Elliot style and was definitely used by Franklin. Aand also by Harry Miller.



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This was a Hershey 2010 find for me, last one I had went with a dirt car I sold in 1985. They were used on dirt track race cars and some early Bonneville and Dry Lakes cars. We could start a thread of photos of cars with Chrysler tube axles, I post a few later today. Does anyone know what year and model these were under when new?
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:28 PM   #23
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hah well im even more confused now. lol i guess ill go with Chrysler then....
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:39 PM   #24
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In automotive engineering parlance, an axle of this construction where the axle end straddles the spindle is known as an "Elliot type". The style we are most accustomed to where the spindle straddles the axle is known as "Reverse Elliot". Many brands of automoblie used the Elliot type (Including Ford) in the twenties. Most switched to the Reverse Elliot sometime in the early thirties. The Dodge /Plymouth "wavy" axles of the thirties are Reverse Elliot (As are all the Fords from 1928). Further, I've not seen any Dodge/Plymouth that had a "spigoted" construction with a separate forging or casting attached to the outer ends of the tube. That system was usually peculiar to Elliot style and was definitely used by Franklin. Aand also by Harry Miller.
I'd have to agree. The first picture is a '28 Plymouth, Elliot type, but a forged axle. the second picture is a '31-'32, Elliot type, with a pronounced bend, but also forged. The third is a '32-'33 tube axle, but Reverse Elliot. These are the oldest factory pictures I have, but I'll check some 20's repair manuals tomorrow and see if anything else applies.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:40 PM   #25
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Thanks but that axle is crying out for some Lock Ring Dayton wires, and a 1930's Dirt Car chassis and body.
nice! sounds like a good project. too bad i didnt get to run into ya at hershey. hope you liked where i signed my name in the most obnocshis spot

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Old 10-10-2010, 07:42 PM   #26
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I'd have to agree. The first picture is a '28 Plymouth, Elliot type, but a forged axle. the second picture is a '31-'32, Elliot type, with a pronounced bend, but also forged. The third is a '32-'33 tube axle, but Reverse Elliot. These are the oldest factory pictures I have, but I'll check some 20's repair manuals tomorrow and see if anything else applies.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:19 PM   #27
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Tough to get a good photo of this FRANKLIN front axle on a top shelf in my basement.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:07 PM   #28
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I have one of these 1931 Chrysler Imperial front axles drum to drum, needs refurb. Jwillia100@aol.com
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:05 PM   #29
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Airflows also ran tube axles.


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Old 10-04-2012, 11:40 PM   #30
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Oooooooo... cool!

What about Art Chrisman's #25 dragster??

It had something like that, right?

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Old 10-05-2012, 02:05 AM   #31
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Took this from the Frank Kurtis thread, that is a Chrysler Tube axle on the Atlas Chrome Special. Bob
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:31 PM   #32
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I wanted to post some Atlas Chrome Special Pictures but still cant figure out the way to post as in go to folder and click. I need help. Thanks
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:35 PM   #33
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OITSOG,

Use the "Go Advanced" feature in the lower right, then "Manage Attacements" will allow you to add pics.
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:41 PM   #34
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Here are some never or rarely seen photos from the Atlas Chrome Special etc. I have the best collection of them and in fact just acquired a Studio Framed professional photo of the Atlas Chrome Special from 1934 . Any questions or interest email me at ftk454@aol.com
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:49 PM   #35
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Check out these photos of the Atlas Chrome Special. I own several photos of the engine and the building of this great car. Anything Frank Kurtis was awesome. Henry Puckett own Atlas Chrome Plating. I have never seen pictures of his buildings or Delivery vehicle other then mine.
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:53 PM   #36
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Damn OITSOG those pics are fantastic. The Atlas Plating cars are my all time favorites...
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:05 PM   #37
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I used a Chrysler axle on the modified I built around 15 years ago.



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Old 05-15-2013, 06:11 PM   #38
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# 25 Chrisman dragster has a Franklin axle, originally installed by Leroy Neumeyer.

The Doane Spencer roadster had a '34 Plymouth tube for a short time, with Model A transverse leaf.

The 'double-bend' on Plymouths was a 'hoop' in the center that jutted forward;
The hoop on Chryslers jutted down in the center. (scrub line nightmare with small front wheels/tires)

Correct about not being able to 'give these old racy axles away'...I have 2 of them on the classifieds right now, nary a question.

I have a 'tube axle sickness' also...Sure like that Franklin, '37Kid!
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:11 PM   #39
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Some of my favorites are of Ted Horn Frank Wearne and Wilbur Shaw sitting in the ACS Car signed to Henry the owner. Ted Horn was a hell of a driver from what I have learned.
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:08 PM   #40
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OITSOG, Thank you for posting the Atlas Chrome Special photos! Welcome to the HAMB! The current owner of the car is a HAMB member and should be posting sometime soon I would think. Bob
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