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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: cheyenne, wy
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anyone used this stuff? im thinking of putting it down on the garage im buying. i was wondering how long it takes to cure. i close friday morning, and could start as soon as closing is done. would it be dry by saturday morning? temperature should be in the 50-60's. thanks.
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Hey Trey...I work at Home Depot, and spend quite a bit of time in the paint department. We sell the Rustoleum product, but I haven't had many customers purchase it or give me any feedback. Here's a link to the info about it on Rustoleum's website, and it includes the drying time:
http://www.rustoleum.com/Project.asp...0&ddp=30&SBL=1 In addition to the Rustoleum garage floor paint, we also carry a product by Behr. It's actually a one-part epoxy coating, so there's no mixing necessary. I have sold a fair bit of this stuff, and feedback has been really good so far. Once again, here's a link to more info: http://www.behr.com/behrx/act/view/p...ings&catId=5#9 Sorry I can't give you any impressions from the user end, but I don't even have a garage at the moment. Over time, I've learned to use customer feedback and choices as a pretty good barometer of a product's quality, and the Behr seems to do pretty well.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Murdock, Fl.
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Yes I used it. A few hints -
Keep plenty of rollers available, because it will begin to set up on the roller, and cause you to have trouble pushing it over the floor, which in turn makes for a crappy finish. Change rollers every 100sq. ft. or so for the best finish. And make sure the floor is cleaned by using acid, if it's been used and stained. The can will have the drying info, but IIRC you could walk on it in 12 hrs, and it was somewhere around 7 days for driving on it. It is a very good coating, and has held up well in my garage. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than the stuff in the restoration books. I got mine at Home Depot for around $50.00 a can. Here's info on it... http://garage-toys.com/epoxyshield.h...OVMTC=standard A little additional - I used a waterbased epoxy on the other side of the garage, and it isn't nearly as tough as the Rustoleum. if you want the best protection used the Rustoleum. Mutt
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: jersey
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i paint full time,but never used that product,,but on garage floor when you think its clean enough.Start over and clean again.I would think rustoleum makes a good product though.Like in any painting though READ THE CAN .
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: cheyenne, wy
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what kind of price does the behr paint have? i cant find it on the home depot site.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I've used the Valspar & Rustoleum 2 part epoxy floor paint in my shop and it's held up well for three years, and i've abused it... I used a one part epoxy on the floor of my old motorcycle shop, didn't hold up near as well...
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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I used it in my shop, it has held up great except for one small area that I spilled acid on it.... shit..... other then that love it .
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NC
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>>trey]anyone used this stuff?<<
I used it in my shop,and am glad I did. For one thing,it makes sweeping the floor 10 times easier. Eliminates all that cement dust crap. Also makes wiping up oil or gas spills real easy. Battery acid will eat it alive,though. Cheapest place I found to buy it was at Lowes. i>> i was wondering how long it takes to cure. i close friday morning, and could start as soon as closing is done. would it be dry by saturday morning? temperature should be in the 50-60's. thanks.<< Do yourself a favor and paint it after closing on Saturday. Your experience may be different than mine,but it didn't go as far with me as it was supposed to go,and it took longer to dry than I expected. I guess you could cut it with something,but I didn't try. Give it all night Saturday and all day and night on Sunday,and it will probbly be dried when you come to work on Monday. I put mine on with a roller,and spread the "sprinkles" across when it was tacky. You don't have to use them,but they do reduce the glare a little,and they are supposed to keep the floor from being so slippery.
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Indiana
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hows it hold up to welding sand grinding sparks??
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Trey...I called over to work today (I'm off temporarily with an injured back), and we've got the Behr garage floor paint for $24/gallon. It's possible that a Home Depot in your area might have it at a slightly different price (may be higher in a more metropolitan market...I'm out in the sticks), but it shouldn't be more that $2-$3/gallon higher.
Hope that helps a little...
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: cheyenne, wy
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thanks for your help mike. ill check into that.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Monmouth County, NJ
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please dont use Behr. they sell it at home depot cause its cheap. in paint u usaully get what u pay for.
Im a painter by trade and a 2 part epoxy or the rustoleum epoxy that u mentioned is the best, (wear a respirator/gloves!) however, epoxy should only be used over bare concrete or previous epoxy. its not recommended to be applied over pre-existing latex/oil paint. if u have pre existing latex/oil paint on the floor then I recommended using oil base. (if the floor is allready painted and u cant tell whats on there, then pm me.) clean the floor thoroughly. i forget what acid we use but i think its called muriatic acid (*Wear gloves)...u can find it at a paint store or h-depot. paint has a dry time and a cure time. these are affected by air temp and humidity. 50-60's are good but overnight it may get cooler and slow down the drying. depending on the weather- if u painted a floor fri afternoon, i wouldnt drive a car with hot tires on the floor until after the cure time, which could be up to 48-72 hrs. maybe longer? so do it on a sat. read the label carefully for recommended dry/cure times. good luk and pic a cool color. Quote:
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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thanks for all the info on that. id like to use the behr, because i can have it tinted. is it possible to have the rustoleum tinted too? not that its a big deal to me, it would just be fun i guess? i think i will wait to do it though. i want to make sure i have time to clean it really good, and i want it to have time to cure. this isnt the kind of thing i should be rushing into, as much as i like to rush everything. so ill go with the rustoleum in a week or two. the floor isnt painted, but has a lot of oil stains. ill have to do my best to clean it. the acid you spoke about, is that the same thing that masonry workers use?
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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yes, muriatic acid is what masonary workers use to clean cement. it is probably the most caustic chemical that is commercially available, yet still sold to the public. a degreaser should be used for excessive oil or grease stains. the Behr 1 part epoxy is an acrylic/epoxy blend. i have never used it so i couldnt tell u how good it is. the Behr add says its good for resisting hot tire and oil etc. so as long as it has a warranty on the label, then they have to correct any problems u may have with it ie: (peeling)
rustoleum comes in two colors only. gray and tan, but their warranty/gaurantee is excellent and to me seems like the better product. however, whichever product u wind up using, the cure time for automobiles is 1 week. foot traffic 24 hrs. i know this seems like a long time and not conducive towards running your garage, but from my expierience, half of what the manufacturer recommends is usually sufficient. so figure 3-4 days for cars. do it on a holiday maybe? the end result will be very pleasing if u can figure out when to do it. Quote:
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I find it interesting that in one post you tell him to not use the Behr because it's "cheap", but then in your next post you admit that you've never used it. Guess I can't figure that one out. Frankly, Behr paint is, as a rule, a premium paint product. I've sold countless gallons of all types of their paint and heard nary a word of complaint. I wasn't trying to knock the Rustoleum product in any way, just trying to tell the guy that there was another option. The tintabilty (is that a word?) of the Behr makes it more appealling to a lot of people that I talk to. Plus, as you said, it's got a great warranty, so you're covered if there are any problems.
Trey, best of luck with your garage floor. In my opinion, you probably can't go wrong either way. If there's anything else I can try to get an answer on to help, don't hesitate to drop me a PM.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Coon Rapids, Minnesota
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Just a word of caution on any of the epoxies...if you have a moist garage floor (moisture from below) they will not last. Its not the products fault, its just not designed for that kind of an environment. I have an unfortunately located garage (its sitting in the lowest spot in my yard) and the Rustoleum lasted about 2 years. I'm planning on stripping what is left and going with Armstrong VCT tile sometime this summer.
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