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Old 07-12-2010, 05:20 AM   #1
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Default Shoebox Fords- "Continental Kit"

What is the story on - "Continental Kits" for Shoebox Fords?

* I don't see many of them
* Were they orig.options or are they custom /fabricated to fit from other cars?

*** Who sells them and what have you done-show pics

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Old 07-12-2010, 06:40 PM   #2
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Old 07-12-2010, 07:50 PM   #3
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There needs to be a D.A.R.E program for continental kits gone wrong.

Cars that never need to be within 5 feet of a conti kit:

'49-'51 Merc
'49-'51 Ford
'55-'57 Chevy

And thats just a start!
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the only way i like conti kits is when the car has extended quarter panels with kit in between....
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:00 PM   #5
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gee...where is the love ?
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:10 PM   #6
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I am interested in seeing these pics as well
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:19 PM   #7
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yea they dont look so good! but if you like it? do it.
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:25 PM   #8
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in not a big fan off them but I would have to disagree with one car on the earlier post. They do look okay on 56 chevys imho
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:37 PM   #9
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The Barris Shop built this one... with extended quarters... they really are needed when you want to use a Conetinental Kit.





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Old 07-18-2010, 11:07 PM   #10
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I have one that was on a 50 ford convert. I am going to post soon...
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:31 PM   #11
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:41 PM   #13
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Check this one >

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Old 12-16-2010, 10:23 AM   #14
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Her's the pic and the shoebox looks better without connykit
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:27 AM   #15
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Her's the pic and the shoebox looks better without connykit
Just say no to the continental kit on a shoebox!
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:39 AM   #17
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My 50 Crestliner has one, believe to be Ford option. Have to run air shocks to use rear view mirror. I have often thought about taking it off. Probably will when and if it gets new paint.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:30 AM   #18
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Old 12-16-2010, 01:08 PM   #19
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O.K. I'll offer one up. I do agree with Rikster, these do look a lot better with extended quarters. This was my intention whenever I put this one on. But other projects got in the way and since this is the only one running and driving; I haven't done anything yet. I do like the Barris car.
Thanks for posting it Rikster.
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Old 12-16-2010, 01:12 PM   #20
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Lighten up, fellas, he's in Pennsylvania - can't help it. My dad and uncles in Northeast Ohio all thought continental kits were awesome on some cars, including shoebox Fords. It's an Eastern thing; you wouldn't understand.
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Old 12-16-2010, 01:23 PM   #21
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Oh MY Gaaawd! the stock set ups are ugly as sin. destroy the cool lines of a shoebox. the Barris car looks marginal OK. maybe, just maybe, with extended quarter panels and Packard tail lites, etc. would have to be a radical full custom to make it work. some longer body styles look good with continental kits, so I ain't against them entirely.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:49 PM   #22
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:01 PM   #23
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Heres the continental kit on the '49 I'm currently looking at. Not a fan, hopefully someone else is and I can use the funds for tires.
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they look like poop without extended quarters.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:20 PM   #25
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That was the first thing that "had to go." Coronado kits arn't any better looking either.
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:53 PM   #26
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Heres the continental kit on the '49 I'm currently looking at. Not a fan, hopefully someone else is and I can use the funds for tires.
To me, it looks like a spare tire with a cover attatched to the trunk. No bumper bracket extensions, no wide gravel pan. Could be wrong. Take a sideview and post it.
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:47 PM   #27
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I doubt that FoMoCo ever produced them as a factory option, but they were a common dealer-installed feature in the early '50s. My mom bought a new '54 Merc with one; the day she turned it over to me, I took it off.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:59 PM   #28
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well, I lived in a semi-affluent neighborhood as a grade-schooler (lots of nuclear engineers) in the early 50s. Half the newer cars in the driveways had continental kits and wide white walls. Very popular, I always assumed they came from the dealer that way. When I became a budding hotrodder (as opposed to taildragger) we referred to connie kits as "manure spreaders" and as with 50Fraud, if we acquired a car so equipped, those things came off quicker than a prom dress.

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Old 12-16-2010, 09:40 PM   #29
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Here is one from West Virginia, belongs to a friend.
I'm not much of a Conny Kit guy either but it must be a East coast thing!
Here is a '54 Olds and a '59 Impala both from WV.
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i,m not a big fan of the connie kit but i,ve seen cars that look good with them and cars that look bad so i posted some east coast cars with them see what you think and as someone post even barris put them on some cars
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:07 PM   #31
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Damn those Continental folk what were they thinking!

This is what I expect to see when continental kits are mentioned, either a picture of the car you are driving or musical notes and/or daddy-yo-poodle-rock-a-silly images painted on.

Each to their own I guess.

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Old 12-16-2010, 10:55 PM   #32
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wow, that '56 looks like it might have started out on the right track. but, the mural belongs on a "look at me" rich guy's motor home. wrong skirts, etc-oh well
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I've never owned a car with one on it, but my all-time favorite kustom (the Ernst Chevy) had one and I love it on that car. It is definitely an Ohio/Penn/WV/East Coast thing. I saw a LOT of cars with them at shows and swap meets growing up in Northeast Ohio, and have only seen one or two since I moved to the midwest.
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all i have a lil info on them. its after market and was never an option with the purchace of the car. i believe the kits are made in Pennsylvania. thats all i know
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definately the only way they would look right is if the quarters were extended. Leaving the quarters stock would make me want to vomit at the car...
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As an admitted fan of continental kits, I think there is no absolute rule on them. There are however, some cars that just don't look good with them. The Shoebox Ford and 49-51 Merc are prime examples, but again, with the extended quarters it can look quite attractive.

Though 55-57 Chevs generally look like crap, it's really only the 57s that always look terrible. The Barris convertible 55 looked stellar with the kit on it. I've seen several 56s that look great too. I think the car's rear bumper and tail light configuration, in addition to the car's overall proportion will dictate when the kit is appropriate.

Mid-50s Fords and Oldsmobiles look superb with them.

I'd also say that when a car has a disproportionately long hood to trunk ratio, the kit can be an effective tool in bringing the length into symmetry.
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Minus the lame mural, this is perfect. It just goes with the look as a whole. If you're not going for a smooth and subtle style, this is 100% appropriate. Here, the builder has Merc trim, lake pipes, dual antennas, Packard lights, flipper caps, bubble skirts... the kit just works with the style and everything coordinates. Definitely East coast.

Continental Enterprises is the main supplier of quality kits that I know of. Seems every time I see one at a swap meet, there is something cobbled together about it. The new ones aren't cheap, but if you're going to do it, you better do it right.

Which leads me to my #1 kustom faux pas: Van trim rings on passenger car continental kits. Absolutely awful. On par with mung, genocide, and stabbing babies with a pitchfork. Don't do it. The correct ring is narrow and has a constant radius. The van rings are wide, and flat across the middle. They are immediately recognizable, and let everyone know you're a cheap fuck that couldn't get the right shit. Atrocious.
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I agree, without the quarters extended it just looks out of place. The barris car looks perfect, and I hate continental kits on these cars.
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[QUOTE=57JoeFoMoPar;6176943]Minus the lame mural, this is perfect. It just goes with the look as a whole. If you're not going for a smooth and subtle style, this is 100% appropriate. Here, the builder has Merc trim, lake pipes, dual antennas, Packard lights, flipper caps, bubble skirts... the kit just works with the style and everything coordinates. Definitely East coast.



I agree with what you say except for the bubble skirts. IMHO keeping with the cars lines they should be Turnpike Cruiser style
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I think if there is a way for you to extend the fenders like in the first 4 pics it would look great or if you can recess the kit into the trunk in the last pic.
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Late 50's 60's continental kits, cruiser skirts and duel antenna's were the thing
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I have mixed feelings. I think they're cool on some cars, but I have no desire to own one. I have good friends that have them.
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My close friend, Ron, owns this '57 Ford retractable...it's a recent build...and always gets a crowd around it at any show...



I like Connie kits on some cars (and it definitely was an east coast influence that extended into the Midwest where I grew up), not every car lends itself to one...especially '57 Chevy's...they just don't look correct...

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Any more pics????
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Is it...??? I don't have a clue...still works tho, doesn't it...???

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Is it...??? I don't have a clue...still works tho, doesn't it...???

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Yeah, it's a van ring. See how wide it is and how flat it is across the center? It just looks like it was ganked off of an 85 Chevy van. If you look at the kits in the above pictures, the ring is much narrower, with a more constant radius. If you use the correct ring, you may not be able to carry a radial tire back there, might need to be a bias ply.

Yes, the van ring works. It's shiny, physically covers the tire, etc., but it doesn't look right. That 57 is a real stunner, and is clearly not a low-buck car. Would spending an extra $200 on the correct ring really blow the budget on that build?

Wearing stripes and plaid will physically cover your ass from the elements, but that doesn't mean you don't look ridiculous.
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:16 PM   #50
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Heres a Continental kit !!!!!
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Yeah, it's a van ring.

That 57 is a real stunner, and is clearly not a low-buck car. Would spending an extra $200 on the correct ring really blow the budget on that build?
No, it's not a low-buck car...and if it were mine, an extra $200 wouldn't make a bit of difference...but as I said in my OP, the car belongs to a friend of mine so I can't speak for him.

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Wearing stripes and plaid will physically cover your ass from the elements, but that doesn't mean you don't look ridiculous.
Hmmmmmm, I like stripes and plaid...oh well, I think I said somewhere in one of these posts that I never follow a crowd.

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Old 02-02-2011, 06:54 PM   #52
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Heres a Continental kit !!!!!
that shit is out of control! looks like a damn diving board
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I like any shoebox Ford
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:08 PM   #54
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When thje spare tire cover sits straight up and down- Dosen`t look good. They look better when they are slightly tilted.
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:59 PM   #55
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The first one is for ROGER. The last one-add another set of taillights, it detracts from the conntinental kit.
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:46 PM   #57
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them are differnt thats for sure
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:53 PM   #58
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You thought you `ve seen it all.
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:20 PM   #59
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Thats got to be an "East Coast" car.
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:29 PM   #60
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:03 PM   #61
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:51 AM   #62
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no, nada, nope zilch,zero,negatory, neva, NEVER EVER on a shoebox

and about 99.99% of all the other cars
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you want superfly? get a 76 caddy and paint it purple!
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There were way more cars in the early to mid 50's with continental kits, than there were guys, and especially girls with tattoos. I never owned a car lowered in the back.....I probably had the 2nd car in town that was lowered in the front only, as that was the "latest fad" after I bought my first car.
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This thread hurt my eyes!
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #66
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Combined with skirts and swept-back dual rear antennas any car can look like a tuna boat.

Worst connie kit I ever saw was on a '63 Galaxie ragtop. The faceplate had chrome eagle wings with a '54 Ford hood emblem in the middle. Stainless skirts, dual antennas with raccoon tails and the optional wire wheels covers on the front completed the look.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:12 PM   #67
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To the OP.... This Coachcraft Shoe was a magazine cover car in the early fifties. (Photos courtesy Rikster.)



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I know it's an East Coast thing, and I'm born and raised in Brooklyn NYC but I just have NOOO love for the connie kits...at all...
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"Which leads me to my #1 kustom faux pas: Van trim rings on passenger car continental kits. Absolutely awful. On par with mung, genocide, and stabbing babies with a pitchfork. Don't do it. The correct ring is narrow and has a constant radius. The van rings are wide, and flat across the middle. They are immediately recognizable, and let everyone know you're a cheap fuck that couldn't get the right shit. Atrocious."


Finally somebody has pointed out the gross error of these reproduction continental kits...the van cover...! totally wrong Thanks Joe.
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My close friend, Ron, owns this '57 Ford retractable...it's a recent build...and always gets a crowd around it at any show...



I like Connie kits on some cars (and it definitely was an east coast influence that extended into the Midwest where I grew up), not every car lends itself to one...especially '57 Chevy's...they just don't look correct...

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Yeah, it's a van ring. See how wide it is and how flat it is across the center? It just looks like it was ganked off of an 85 Chevy van.

Yes, the van ring works. It's shiny, physically covers the tire, etc., but it doesn't look right. That 57 is a real stunner, and is clearly not a low-buck car.
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"Which leads me to my #1 kustom faux pas: Van trim rings on passenger car continental kits. Absolutely awful. On par with mung, genocide, and stabbing babies with a pitchfork. Don't do it. The correct ring is narrow and has a constant radius. The van rings are wide, and flat across the middle. They are immediately recognizable, and let everyone know you're a cheap fuck that couldn't get the right shit. Atrocious."


Finally somebody has pointed out the gross error of these reproduction continental kits...the van cover...! totally wrong Thanks Joe.
FWIW, obviously, the "van ring" connie kit cover didn't make any difference to the "new" owner...FWIW, this '57 Ford Retractable fetched $72,000 at Barrett-Jackson's Florida auction back in the spring. "Cheap fuck" indeed...!!! Go tell it to the guy that bought it...!!!

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The Barris Shop built this one... with extended quarters... they really are needed when you want to use a Conetinental Kit.






This is a beautiful car! I dont see how you could improve on this one! Jim
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AND, 2 years too late to the party:



FWIW, obviously, the "van ring" connie kit cover didn't make any difference to the "new" owner...FWIW, this '57 Ford Retractable fetched $72,000 at Barrett-Jackson's Florida auction back in the spring. "Cheap fuck" indeed...!!! Go tell it to the guy that bought it...!!!

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Haha, hey man, never said the car wasn't beautiful, just that the trim ring is faux pas. For a mere $200 (adjusted for 2 years of inflation) the car could be totally fixed! Speaking from personal experience, the van ring is a necessity if you're going to haul a radial back there. Personally, I'd rather have the right trim ring and keep a bias ply as a spare than drive 99.9% of the time with a weird trim ring. So my move was to totally remove the kit, which I think was a good idea.

The "cheap fuck" comment was more directed to the very common practice I've seen of cobbling together kits from spare parts, different makes, or scrap metal. The nice, correct repro kits from Continental Enterprises and the like are VERY expensive, so especially on the East Coast, we see people try to take the inexpensive path. It doesn't work.

If someone coughed up $72K for that ride, that's a good deal for them. You couldn't pay someone to build it for that much.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:53 PM   #73
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I'm looking for a Coronado kit for our 53 Victoria. If anyone has one available please let me know.

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If you have a shoebox coupe you gotta have a conny. Try continental enterprises, kelowna b. C. Canada phone250 763 7727
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If you have a shoebox coupe you gotta have a conny. Try continental enterprises, kelowna b. C. Canada phone250 763 7727

I agree, they have the best kits in the country, I have used a few of theirs, on 56 fords, 56 merc, and recently on a 58 bonneville convertible, all fit and looked perfect! I would highly recommend them to anyone! Jim
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Back in the 50's there were way more continental kits on customs than there were chopped tops.............way more. Not my favorite, but that's the way things were, in the midwest anyway.
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They were fairly common around here "back in day", especially on taildragging shoeboxes, with loud rapping mufflers and asphalt-scraping club plates. Often they were adorned with devils, flames, skulls, pinstriping decals, or the car's name, like "Dreamboat", "Peggy Sue", or something. We thought they were cool. We liked the fake Caddy fins, quad headlites, and grills made out of cheesy cabinet knobs too. You could get all the kustom stuff you wanted at Almquist back in 1962.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:22 PM   #79
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I just took off the kit that I had on my 51 Shoebox, if any one is interested pm me, its black laquer with a chrome outer cover and front and back black laquer tire cover and all hardware CHEAP>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Shoeboxs are to flat sided to carry off the long back end ...in my opinion...
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I don't mind them sometimes. Depends on the build
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