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Old 04-29-2011, 09:53 PM   #21
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

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frame swaps are rarely a good idea.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:45 PM   #22
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"So I got this free ford explorer chassis and I'm thinking about doing a frame swap in my...."

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Old 04-30-2011, 09:41 AM   #23
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

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Now, turn the front wheels and let's see if the tires hit the fenders or not. I know the tread on a '56 is 1 5/16ths wider with the same exact brake drums -

it doesnt hit the fenders..... the frame has DISC BRAKES.....
ill post up a pic when i get a chance to take it from the front..
thanks for the concern
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:49 AM   #24
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

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frame swaps are rarely a good idea.
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I'd bet the track width is 1 1/2 to 2 inch wider on the 56.

If it is, it will look like shit.

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I agree, after you get done with all of the modifications, you ruin a frame and a body.
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Personally, I'm not going to pat you on the back for messing up a 1956 Chevrolet SEAMLESS frame! There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 49-54 frame to start with, and you could have made updates to it; I see the 56 frame has tubular -arms, the only thing that gives it value now. That, and the T-post, fence pole, rear cross piece; now that's engineering. Butch/56sedandelivery.
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It looks really good, forget the grouches there just hasen't been enough sun lately to improve there additudes. keep with it it will make a nice car. If people don't try different things nothing new would ever happen.
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:51 AM   #25
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

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Personally, I'm not going to pat you on the back for messing up a 1956 Chevrolet SEAMLESS frame! There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 49-54 frame to start with, and you could have made updates to it; I see the 56 frame has tubular -arms, the only thing that gives it value now. That, and the T-post, fence pole, rear cross piece; now that's engineering. Butch/56sedandelivery.
tubular arm and disc brakes and a better frame for bags....

yes its a seamless 56 frame.....AND ITS MY FRAME AND MY CAR!!
for the price i got this frame (payed $150 yes i couldnt believe it either) with tubular and disc brakes I want you to go find me the updates you say i could have done for the same price of $150 let me know when you find them please.....

If you would know engineering you would see that the fence pole was just a temporary poor mans brace while the swap was getting done. if you dont like my t-post be a pal send me some money to buy more steel.....
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:52 AM   #26
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

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i agree
I disagree..... i just proved it....
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:54 AM   #27
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

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You should let me do it so it can be done right........
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:06 AM   #28
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It looks really good, forget the grouches there just hasen't been enough sun lately to improve there additudes. keep with it it will make a nice car. If people don't try different things nothing new would ever happen.
Thanks.........
I agree.. gotta try something different. just gotta have good planning for any project you do and not just go in there hacking chopping and crap welding everything.....

and yes there are many Grouches aka Haters out there..... they should start thinking outside the box once in a while...
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:14 AM   #29
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

very cool. does the frame lay before the body. would be cool to see that thing lay rockers!
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:18 AM   #30
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

I kinda hafta agree with the guy about the one piece frame, BUT, there are so many people making aftermarket frames out there, and there are so many stock frames that are going to the scrap metal grave sites, I think you did a service using the '56 frame where there was a need. (I'm a '56 Chevy owner and it did not hurt my feelings for you to use that frame.)

i just thought of something else, the guy you got the frame from had ALLREADY MOD'd it with the bags, if I remember correctly the spring pockets have to be opened up to fit the bags.....

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Old 04-30-2011, 10:19 AM   #31
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Sounds like "custom" to me! If it works, It oughta be great. That fence post is just a temporary "spreader" right?
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:36 AM   #32
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I have cutt so many cars up and i got a rash of shit for it but when I was done the ones that gave me shit couldnt beleave how they turned out!! Great Job !! Keep up the good work !! "Any one can Restore and Car Butt it takes a Real Man to Cut one Up"!! Words from a 65yr old Fart that lives in my town!!
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:45 AM   #33
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Looks good to me. The only problem I see is the scrub line violation, allowing the frame to contact the ground. I would suggest you reconsider this and put in some hard stops so if you lose air on the road your frame or body does NOT contact the ground. It will get real exciting really fast. Leaving a 1/2 nch of clearance to the ground would keep an inconvience from turning into a disaster. (I'd leave more than an inch if it were me). If you really need to set it on the frame at a show make the stops removable. But put them back in when you are on the road.

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Old 04-30-2011, 02:28 PM   #34
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tubular arm and disc brakes and a better frame for bags....

yes its a seamless 56 frame.....AND ITS MY FRAME AND MY CAR!!
for the price i got this frame (payed $150 yes i couldnt believe it either) with tubular and disc brakes I want you to go find me the updates you say i could have done for the same price of $150 let me know when you find them please.....

If you would know engineering you would see that the fence pole was just a temporary poor mans brace while the swap was getting done. if you dont like my t-post be a pal send me some money to buy more steel.....
You are absolutely right; it's your car, your frame, your project, and your money. Obviously, someone has spent a lot of time and money on the seamless frame before you came into it; tubular arms, setup to bag it, removed the trans mount horns, converted it to side mounts, and installed a rear shock bar. And you got it for almost nothing. BUT, to a tri-five lover as myself, it's just a terrible thing to see. Just terrible. And so were my "comments"; I'm sorry for that . It's obvious the T-post is just temporary, as well as the 4 X 4 wood post. Your original post was, "any ideas or COMMENTS are welcome". I've been blasted too. l currently have two 56 Chevrolet Sedan Deliveries, which brings my tri-five count I've owned to 15 I believe. I also have a 51 Chevrolet Business Coupe, that I have given to my nephew; along with the V-8/auto trans/56 Posi 4.88 rear that are now in the car; and essentially all the money and work to do it. I would have kept it a six cylinder, and had all the conversion parts to go to a 194-215-230-250-292 style six, and keep the original torque tube drive line (sold that to a HAMBER). But, it's not the way HE wanted to go. And you're going your way. So, keep it up, and finish it; don't abandon your project, like the former owner of your seamless frame did. I'm no grouch or hater either, just opinionated. Now, I have a spare 56, 2 piece frame I can't give away, but I won't cut it up. I also have a friend that deals in 55-57 Chevrolet cars AND parts; he cuts up entire cars all the time, and it makes me sick. I guess we all have different perspectives, and you got mine. Again, sorry. Send me a P.M., name and address, and I'll send you some $, no kidding. Butch/56sedandelivery.
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:22 PM   #35
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

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I agree...do it YOUR way!
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:28 AM   #36
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I like what you done. keep up the good work. you other assholes, shut the fuck up. Tired of hearing you all pissing all over a guy, trying to share his ideas with you. his car, leave your opinions in the toilet, where they belong..
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:50 AM   #37
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to me.... i think this is "real" hot rodding
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:06 AM   #38
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Just terrible. And so were my "comments"; I'm sorry for that .Butch/56sedandelivery.
It takes a big man to apologise Butch, good on you, that was great to see.

The '49 looks well, looking forward to seeing more!

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Old 05-02-2011, 01:49 AM   #39
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good job. good idea. If nobody ever chopped any thing up. There wouldent be hot rods.
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:20 AM   #40
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Default Re: 49 chevy coupe on a 56 chevy frame.....

I was totally surprised at the outcome- that's really great and it looks amazing. However, I stand by the idea that frame swaps are rarely a good idea. This is just one of those rare moments.

See.. the majority of people who frame or clip their cars don't really know how much work is involved, get in over their heads and fail. miserably.

So- that's certainly not a project I would have tackled personally... but then again, I'm a hack
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