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Old 05-20-2010, 07:31 PM   #1
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Default Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Thinking about doing it - wondered if anyone has.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:37 PM   #2
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

What's it from? I've converted '55-'57 Chevy 283 air cleaners to paper filter; they're quite easy.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:29 PM   #3
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

i did made a post about it on the hamb
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:45 PM   #4
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

I did with a 50's Caddy/Olds air cleaner .Took about ten minutes .I used a base from a 70's Chevy truck .Used just the top of the Caddy/Olds cleaner for the look.It was totally hidden that i converted it .I was using a 4 barrel Qaudrajet carb so the base went right on with no issues ...
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:50 PM   #5
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Yep...........did 2 early 50's Cadillac and Olds oil bath type.

Used a chrome aftermarket 'Mickey Mouse base to fit a Holly 4bbl and a big old 4"x13" paper filter.
Worked like GM designed it to be.
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:49 PM   #6
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Easy to do. Just depends on what you are looking for. Many repops look like this doing the same thing. Just wanted to use more of what came on the car.

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Old 05-20-2010, 10:04 PM   #7
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

In did a killer, big, 'early '50's Ford aircleaner. Had to cut some crap oout of the inside & rework some inside to get a filter to sit level. I'll post pics Sunday when I get home.

The Cadillac or later Chevy pieces are easier. Mainly just change the base like mentioned above.

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Old 05-20-2010, 10:31 PM   #8
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

I've done it twice on f1 truck oil bath cleaners. On one I used a k&n filter and the other a napa gold paper filter. Cut off the top part of the oil bath and made a plate to cover the filter which gave me something to tighten the lid down onto.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:56 PM   #9
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Did a big ford Y-block air cleaner years ago with a aftermarket 14"drop base and a 4" K&N filter. Also, hole sawed two three inch holes in the face and inserted exhaust tubing into the holes, (approximately 4and 8 o'clock as viewed from the top) and using Flexible ducting made a cool air intake system. Painted the whole thing black wrinkle and it looked absolutely brutal, worked very well too!
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:16 PM   #10
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Yup, every one I have come across, except on "correct" restored cars.
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:39 AM   #11
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Here's my question for all of ya. How restrictive are the old oil bath air cleaners?
I mean I have one on my 53 Buick with the 263. It's HUGE. If I ditched it for a smaller paper filter would I be helpin or hurting my inline?
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:20 AM   #12
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

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Here's my question for all of ya. How restrictive are the old oil bath air cleaners?
I mean I have one on my 53 Buick with the 263. It's HUGE. If I ditched it for a smaller paper filter would I be helpin or hurting my inline?
I would assume switching to a paper filter would increase the restriction - minimal though. The oil baths basically have zero restriction - its just the direction of the flow that causes the separation of the particles into the oil.

Just my 2 cents
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:47 AM   #13
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

So if this is the case, why are people converting oil bath filters to paper?

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I would assume switching to a paper filter would increase the restriction - minimal though. The oil baths basically have zero restriction - its just the direction of the flow that causes the separation of the particles into the oil.

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Old 08-04-2010, 11:50 AM   #14
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Oil bath are cleaner ... wonder why they call it that ... well guess what, I found out a little later when I removed one from my original engine ...(damn, what the ... Ohhhh, OIL bath) and that's exactly what I got .... an oil bath.
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:55 AM   #15
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Efficiency - how well does it clean the air. Paper filters would trap alot more dirt and much smaller dirt particles than the oil bath ever would. When I clean out my oil bath I generally only get large particles (flies). There is a bit of "scum" there but I'm sure a lot of fine dirt is going straight thru.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:00 PM   #16
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Ah, ok. I was debating replacing my stock cleaner for something possibly better. I was told by an old mechanic that oil bath was the way to go..

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Efficiency - how well does it clean the air. Paper filters would trap alot more dirt and much smaller dirt particles than the oil bath ever would. When I clean out my oil bath I generally only get large particles (flies). There is a bit of "scum" there but I'm sure a lot of fine dirt is going straight thru.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:24 PM   #17
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Oil bath air "cleaners" do not remove all of the small stuff that a paper filter will catch. It only takes out the bigger particles that don't go around sharp corners very well.
The smaller particles that still stay airborne after a sharp turn will still be in the intake air.
"zig-zag" cleaning only removes the easy stuff.

Paper filters work best, but do restrict a bit more, so use as big an element as you possibly can.

Before you decide to do a "compromise" and use a K&N style gauze filter because they advertise low restriction, just remember they also let in the small particles. No matter how much dirt they can show that sticks to the oiled-gauze, there are still large holes that the fine dirt goes right through.
Tests have shown they (K&N style gauze) let in SEVEN TIMES more dirt than a paper filter.
I am pretty sure a K&N gauze filter must be better than an oil bath zig-zag "cleaner", but neither one is nearly as good as a paper filter.

The biggest paper filter you can get is the best way to go if you are concerned about engine life and keeping out the fine grit that quickly chews up the cyl walls and rings.

If you are willing to sacrifice engine life for a slight "edge" at the track, you can use just about anything.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:39 PM   #18
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

I did it to my 53. I just welded a sheetmetal ring into the bottom to keep a paper element centered. Found a tall enough element for the lid to seal.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:13 PM   #19
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

Kept the origional look....works great...this is on my 53" Merc...K&N Filter
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:24 PM   #20
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Default Re: Anyone ever convert an oil bath air cleaner into a filament air cleaner?

"Tests have shown they (K&N style gauze) let in SEVEN TIMES more dirt than a paper filter."

...but tests have also shown that K&N filters are just as good as or better than paper with the correct oil on the filter and whatnot....the debate is endless....
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