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Old 05-05-2010, 08:13 AM   #1
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Lance Reventlow's mother was the Woolworth Heiress. As a result, Lance grew up with the financial advantages that most of us can only dream about. At the age of 18, his mother bestowed upon him a huge home in Beverly Hills and more money than any 18 ...

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Old 05-05-2010, 08:22 AM   #2
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LOVE the Scarab- just picked up a Strombecker model off of Espay.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:37 AM   #3
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beautiful..

I'm proud to say my family helped fund the construction of those cars,
my mom would buy our underware at Woolworths.
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Loved th scarab since I was a wee tyke digging through a mouse eaten copy of Hot Rod.

BTW, Ducati made the Desmo work to this day.
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Desmodromic valve gear,...click on the pic, it moves!
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Now stay out of the woolworths!
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:31 AM   #7
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The shape is fantastical. Love the look of the early grand prix cars with long hoods.

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Old 05-05-2010, 09:54 AM   #8
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Now stay out of the woolworths!


I was thinkin' the same thing... and "DO NOT SEEK THE TREASURE... we- thought- you- wuz- a toad..." LOL
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Ducati Motorcycles used or used Desmo Valvetrain....
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Thee look of that car grabs me as much today as it did back in the day!
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:04 AM   #11
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Neat freakin O!
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:18 AM   #12
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I've always loved that car and have always wondered what else he would have come up with had he not been killed.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:27 AM   #13
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I also grew up reading the old Hot Rod, SCI, and other mags that featured this car/guy. How Was he killed? I never heard the end of the story.
Desmos are awesome!!!
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:36 AM   #14
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In the early day's, the Hot Rodders and Tea Baggers didn't mix that much. As time has passed, we tend to appreciate the ingenuity and engineering that went into creating a car like the Scarab. There are other examples where the two came together. The Cobra comes to mind. I have a soft spot for sports cars and love to hang it out in the twisty hills around here.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:12 AM   #15
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Reventlow was killed in a plane crash in '72. Although he was a pilot, he was not flying the plane that crashed.

The first racing application of desmodromic valve gear was in the Mercedes-Benz F1 cars of the mid-'50s, and they were extremely successful. I'm sure there were other, earlier uses, but the M-B engines undoubtedly inspired Lance to use the system.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:18 AM   #16
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Incredible...That car looks a little dated but still is beautiful. The enigne is out of the world.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:19 AM   #17
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Wow. Thanks again Ron. Always been a fan of the Scarab. The animation looks like an early rotary. Slim
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Two companies now make reproductions, one in metal and the other in 'glass.
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:34 PM   #19
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The Chuck Pelley illustration reminds me a bit of the Pete Brock/Kas Kastner Triumph TR250K. Great stuff Ron, thanks.

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Lance was one of the last persons to talk to James Dean. He was going to the same race and met up with Dean at Blackwell's corner. They set a dinner date but of course Dean never made it.
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:07 PM   #21
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Does Augie Pabst still have his Scarab...?

I believe that his was powered by a Small Block Chevy...(?)

I haven't seen it at Elkhart Lake in quite a while.

and for the Woolworth fans... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1C2g...next=1&index=8
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:33 PM   #23
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That was a great read that led to more reading. Thank you.


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Thanks for the photos and a bit of history on these cars.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:19 PM   #25
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Very Cool! Beautiful cars!
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Ron, you are so fortunate to have had the wisdom to acquire that Scarab. Thank you for sharing this with us. vic
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:43 PM   #27
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Loved the Scarabs from the first magazine shot I saw in '58.

Saw Chuck Daigh win at Meadowdale, Ill. also in 1958.

The whole Scarab operation was pure class throughout.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:57 PM   #28
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LOVE the Scarab- just picked up a Strombecker model off of Espay.
I wish I still had the one (the Stombecker model) I was given when they were first released! I always loved the lines of the Scarab, and for a knowledge-hungry kid way back when, it gave me the chance to learn about desmodromic valve systems.

Thanks for an excellent article.
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Does Augie Pabst still have his Scarab...?

I believe that his was powered by a Small Block Chevy...(?)
All of the Scarab sports racers (front engined) were Chevy powered. The Desmo engine was only used in their F1 car.
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Those cars are to the 50s what a LeBaron Speedster was in he 30s. Pure sex appeal. Every decade has one and they're truely timeless, don't you think? For the 60s it was the GT40 for me. Just as pure and clean today as it was then, so too is the Scarab. Thanks for the visit and glad to see it here. Our youth should really get to know and appreciate where it all comes from.
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All of the Scarab sports racers (front engined) were Chevy powered. The Desmo engine was only used in their F1 car.
The Scarab was the first really successful use of the SBC in competition with Ferrari, Jaguar, Aston, Maserati and such in sports car racing. It was easily the equal of the bigger Ferrari sports racers, and the "battles" in the L.A. Times Grand Prix in the late '50s were what made its rep. If memory serves, when Lance turned his attention to Formula One and the desmo engine, the Chevy-powered Scarabs were taken over by Augie Pabst and his Meister Brauser Racing Team. They were again very successful, and I believe at least one Scarab still is campaigned in vintage racing today.
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Proud to say that my Uncle Warren Olson was one of the kingpins in the design, construction, maintanance and overall organization of the Scarab race team from beginning to (sadly) the end. All those who were affliliated with the team were brilliant. And Lance was a true gentleman....as were they all.
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The Scarab is without a doubt, the ultimate front engine sports racer. Performance aside, they have a certain rightness about them.

All three of the original front engined Scarabs are currently actively vintage raced.

Rob Walton owns what I will call chassis #1. This car is the left hand drive car which Reventlow converted this car to street use in the early 60's.

Augie Pabst owns chassis 2 which is a RHD drive car. Augie also owns the mid-engined 1962 Scarab. Pabst did not own the Meister Brau team. Harry Heuer was the team principal, with the cars funded by the Peter Hand Brewery of Chicago. Augie was the lead driver in 1959 and 1960, left the team, and got the cars final win in 1963. Augie is getting older, and has not raced the car for the last two years, although it has been at the track. If he should choose to not drive, I would think we will see his son Augie III in the car as he is very competent behind the wheel.

The Collier Museum in Florida owns chassis 3 (RHD, identified by hood scoop), which was badly wrecked in 1962, subsequently repaired, then burned in a garage fire. It was restored, then re-restored in recent years with a new frame and body. This car was originally delivered with a 4 cylinder Offy engine, and replaced with a SBC almost immediately.

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Proud to say that my Uncle Warren Olson was one of the kingpins in the design, construction, maintanance and overall organization of the Scarab race team from beginning to (sadly) the end. All those who were affliliated with the team were brilliant. And Lance was a true gentleman....as were they all.
I have a signed letter from your uncle on RAI stationary in my Scarab shrine at home. He and his lovely bride, Miss Simone are very nice people.
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Hahaha - I thought the same thing.
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BRE Datsun legend John Morton in the Collier Museum chassis #3 at Road America, 2008

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Augie Pabst III in the 1962 rear engine Scarab. This was the final car built by RAI. It ran an aluminum Buick originally, and now has SBC power.

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Augie exiting pit lane at Road America in chassis #2, about 1993.

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All this and all I get is nostalgic for O/T motorcycles. Ducati have way too much of my money, it was a 'stage' I guess? 916 996 998.............(I dont want to admit to the other).
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I was able to be involved with doing a little work on the anniversary Scarab a few years back, those cars are beyond cool. I am surprised you don't see more of the recreations out there.
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That guy sure had a great life going up to the end...and he was married to Jill St. John to boot...she was always a fav of mine...Ho Hum...

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Info on Lance

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Desmodromic valve gear,...click on the pic, it moves!
pretty neat image.... cool

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Ducati Motorcycles used or used Desmo Valvetrain....
they still use them... and quite succesfully.

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All this and all I get is nostalgic for O/T motorcycles. Ducati have way too much of my money, it was a 'stage' I guess? 916 996 998.............(I dont want to admit to the other).
I'm more of an air cooled 2 valve guy, missing my sport a little these days, though the Guzzi is fun... Nailheads and Ducs, do you like hot redheads as well?
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There was a single seater Scarab "restored" locally about 10 years ago, but I don't know what was original about it.
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Wasn't Jim Hall also involved with this Scarab stuff? I think the car he called Chaparell I was a front engine Scarab.
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Wasn't Jim Hall also involved with this Scarab stuff? I think the car he called Chaparell I was a front engine Scarab.
In 1961, Dick Troutman & Tom Barnes who were involved with building the original Reventlow cars came up with a next generation design, that you could loosely call, an "updated" Scarab. But Reventlow had no involvement with it. Jim Hall ultimately bankrolled the construction of those cars, which became the Chaparral I. As you can see, there is a fair bit of resemblance, although they lack the grace of the Reventlow cars. I'd call the Chaparral I something of a half-brother to a Scarab.

The Chapparal I cars were fast and won their share of races. Harry Heuer of the Meister Brau team drove both, and in comparing the two cars, has been quoted that "the Scarab never tried to kill anyone".



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In the early 1980's, Lance's half-brother Richard Reventlow commissioned Dick Troutman to build a 25th Anniversary edition, shown below. I assume Richard had the car built because no originals were available for sale. With very few updates, the car is identical to the 1958 models. Richard sold the car to Ron Kellogg who owned it for quite a few years. It later passed to Bob Sirna who puts it on track with Tony Delorenzo at the wheel. Perhaps Ron can provide some more details on the car and his time with it.

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Loved the Scarabs from the first magazine shot I saw in '58.

Saw Chuck Daigh win at Meadowdale, Ill. also in 1958.

The whole Scarab operation was pure class throughout.
Do you happen to have any photos from Meadowdale '58?
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Hello Flatheadguy, you have got to be proud of your Uncle Warren Olsen, & Aunt Simone, they were much more then a major factor, they really ran the whole Scarab operation, Warren ran the shop, and hired & fired as needed, Simone did so much, she handled the books for the company, they both ran the Europe racing program, I sent them many photos to let me know who the people were, and recieved the names of almost everyone shown, a real class act, and nice people, that I have found so many over the years owning some of the very special cars & things over the years, and thanks so much to Ryan allowing me to show some of this history to all of you, as I do get a kick from the nice comments over the months, you all might be surprized how my family had to put up with because of my love for the automobile in any form, met some of the great drivers, and believe me, funds were not really there, but instead of buying a new Ford or Chev for 3 grand, I'd buy a used 300SL for that same amount, and my wife would go shopping, or deliver our daughter & son to school, and it was a thrill driving some of the great cars, and owning some great racing cars on a budget, was a lot of fun, and guess I should write a book one of these days, once I have the time, but who cares about a car guy who has owned a bunch of cars, and by the way all you guys I have found are very pure in your love of the history of the automotive world, so as long as you don't get bored, I'll try and get something interesting each month for all to enjoy, as I get more out of this then you get from reading and looking at the stuff I put out for all to see.
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Ron, there is no way that you can get more pleasure out of posting your wonderful bits of nostalgia and the accompanying photos than those of us HAMBers who love history and can't wait to relive it. If so, it is most likely illegal and the federales will soon be coming to your house to haul you away!

Now that you have baited the hook, you've got all of us here on the HAMB anxiously waiting for your next installment of the Kellogg Chronicles. More please...

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Hello Flatheadguy, you have got to be proud of your Uncle Warren Olsen, & Aunt Simone, they were much more then a major factor, they really ran the whole Scarab operation, Warren ran the shop, and hired & fired as needed, Simone did so much, she handled the books for the company, they both ran the Europe racing program, I sent them many photos to let me know who the people were, and recieved the names of almost everyone shown, a real class act, and nice people, that I have found so many over the years owning some of the very special cars & things over the years, and thanks so much to Ryan allowing me to show some of this history to all of you, as I do get a kick from the nice comments over the months, you all might be surprized how my family had to put up with because of my love for the automobile in any form, met some of the great drivers, and believe me, funds were not really there, but instead of buying a new Ford or Chev for 3 grand, I'd buy a used 300SL for that same amount, and my wife would go shopping, or deliver our daughter & son to school, and it was a thrill driving some of the great cars, and owning some great racing cars on a budget, was a lot of fun, and guess I should write a book one of these days, once I have the time, but who cares about a car guy who has owned a bunch of cars, and by the way all you guys I have found are very pure in your love of the history of the automotive world, so as long as you don't get bored, I'll try and get something interesting each month for all to enjoy, as I get more out of this then you get from reading and looking at the stuff I put out for all to see.
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After Reventlow was done with the front engine sports cars, he sold one of them to Jim Jeffords of Milwaukee for $17,500. Jeffords found a backer in the Stephani brothers who owned Nickey Chevroley in Chicago. They painted the car purple, and dubbed it the "Nickey Nouse". Here is Jeffords on the treacherous Meadowdale Raceway track in 1959. When the Stephanis cooled on the expense of racing the car, it was sold to Harry Heuer and the Meister Brau racing team, where it raced until 1963. This is the car Augie Pabst bought in the late 70's, and has vintage raced since.


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Also from Meadowdale is this beautiful postcard from July 1959. Jeffords is on the pole. Augie Pabst is in the red #7 Ferrari in the middle of the front row. The Scarab Jeffords is driving is the same car that Chuck Daigh decimated the field with the previous September.

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OK. This must explain why a guy writing letters to the editor of Car and Driver used the pen name, 'Rent Snatchlow'.
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[QUOTE=Warbird7;5203079]Augie Pabst owns chassis 2 which is a RHD drive car. Augie also owns the mid-engined 1962 Scarab. Pabst did not own the Meister Brau team. Harry Heuer was the team principal, with the cars funded by the Peter Hand Brewery of Chicago.

Warbird, thanks for filling in the blanks in my faulty memory bank. Now that you mention the names, I recall them also. I wish I had seen those Times GP races...
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Augie Pabst owns chassis 2 which is a RHD drive car. Augie also owns the mid-engined 1962 Scarab. Pabst did not own the Meister Brau team. Harry Heuer was the team principal, with the cars funded by the Peter Hand Brewery of Chicago.

Warbird, thanks for filling in the blanks in my faulty memory bank. Now that you mention the names, I recall them also. I wish I had seen those Times GP races...
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Hey Warbird7 we must have bumped into each other over the years as I've been a track bum during those years.

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Do you know "Bluto" from the HAMB as well? He raced Brooks Stevens vintage cars at Road America.

It's been a long time since I've seen these cars at Road America and to me they're the sexiest race cars in the world!
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I thought Californian Don Orosco owned a Scarab. I think..........could be wrong about that...thought I saw it some years ago at Riverside.


.....also thinking Dutch did all of the lettering, striping, etc. for Reventlow on the original cars.




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I thought Californian Don Orosco owned a Scarab. I think..........could be wrong about that...thought I saw it some years ago at Riverside.


.....also thinking Dutch did all of the lettering, striping, etc. for Reventlow on the original cars.
Orosco owned the Reventlow LHD car. He sold that car to Rob Walton about a decade ago. But, I believe Orosco had a replica built that he has since vintage raced, and probably still owns.

Yes, Von Dutch did paint work on the Reventlow cars. The story told in the Scarab book was that he would come in at night and work. In the morning there would be beer cans, masking paper and all sorts of debris scattered all over, but the cars would be beautiful. He would mix the paint until he got a color he liked and was quoted as saying "That's a nice blue". From then on the color of the RAI cars was called "That's a nice blue".
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cool.......thanks for Dutch story.


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Orosco owned the Reventlow LHD car. He sold that car to Rob Walton about a decade ago. But, I believe Orosco had a replica built that he has since vintage raced, and probably still owns.

Yes, Von Dutch did paint work on the Reventlow cars. The story told in the Scarab book was that he would come in at night and work. In the morning there would be beer cans, masking paper and all sorts of debris scattered all over, but the cars would be beautiful. He would mix the paint until he got a color he liked and was quoted as saying "That's a nice blue". From then on the color of the RAI cars was called "That's a nice blue".
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I agree... thanks for filling in the blanks!

Hey Warbird7 we must have bumped into each other over the years as I've been a track bum during those years.

I did some crew work for Bill Paul with his SCCA GT-1 car as well as pushed Paul Newmans Datsun into the pits while his crew was scoping out the girls! Hahaha!

Do you know "Bluto" from the HAMB as well? He raced Brooks Stevens vintage cars at Road America.

It's been a long time since I've seen these cars at Road America and to me they're the sexiest race cars in the world!
We probably have crossed paths at the brat stand. I don't know Bluto, but I remember an older man, Bob Shaw who ran the Excaliburs. Is he the same guy?
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Here is an unusual piece of Scarab memorabilia. The Peter Hand Brewery produced a lot of promotional pieces with the race cars. One of the best is this lighted sign. It has a tinfoil covered wheel that when illuminated, it appears to pour beer into the glass. The two Meister Brau Scarabs were photographed at Meadowdale Raceway. I had heard about these and nearly wet myself when I finally found one at an antique mall.

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thanks all for the history lesson...they noticed across the pond what could be put together in he states...glad they live on....
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I was Lucky to be a So.Cal. car guy at that time and got the chance to see these cars race and hang around going Google Eyed as they were being built! A great time to be a Car Kid in So. Cal.
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Warbird7-That sounds like Dutch! I used to hang out at his shop when he was in Woodland Hills/Calabassas and I gave him the gas tank for my Motorcycle to paint. I ask him to just do it in Silver with a single Black Stripe around the bottom edge.
Well,when I went to pic it up it had the black stripe but at the top rear was a very elaborate Pin Stripe pattern and when I ask him "Why" he pointed out where a very Small nat had landed in the paint and he didn't want to sand it down and start over so he did the elaborate Pin Striping to HIDE it. No Extra Charge! Boy I wish I still had that tank today!
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Some more Scarab memorabilia. The ashtray artwork appears to have been lifted right off the Strombecker model box. I'm sure there were other ashtrays with interesting sport cars, but I've never found them.

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Warbird,

Just got my Strombecker Scarab tonight in the mail. It's pretty complete- just need one knockoff and I'm good to go!

Will post pics in a day or two.
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Warbird7-That sounds like Dutch! I used to hang out at his shop when he was in Woodland Hills/Calabassas and I gave him the gas tank for my Motorcycle to paint. I ask him to just do it in Silver with a single Black Stripe around the bottom edge.
Well,when I went to pic it up it had the black stripe but at the top rear was a very elaborate Pin Stripe pattern and when I ask him "Why" he pointed out where a very Small nat had landed in the paint and he didn't want to sand it down and start over so he did the elaborate Pin Striping to HIDE it. No Extra Charge! Boy I wish I still had that tank today!
That's a great story!
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Another good one was the '58 Times GP at Riverside. The epic battle at the start of the race was between Phil Hill in a monster 412 Ferrari and Chuck Daigh in the RAI Scarab. After the opening laps, Daigh realized he had the Ferrari in hand and began to play with him. Daigh, the California hot rodder eventually went up and touched the Ferrari with his knock off. This upset Hill greatly where he later told Daigh, "Aggressive driving is one thing, but you're too f-ing much!"

Hill eventually vapor locked and fell from contention. Daigh went on to win the race. He had some kind of a score to settle with European Roy Salvadori who was driving an Aston or some kind of European turd boiler. Daigh waited until the right moment flashed by him on a straightaway and by his description, "just flat blew his ass off", something like 30 mph faster. That was the kind of domination that kept the car competitive for years to come.

Chuck Daigh in my opinion was the ultimate as he was a was a first rate mechanic and a really talented driver on top of that. He was very underrated.
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^^^^^
awesome story...Meister Brau must have been a better brew back in those days to have their livery on such a fine automobile. The cheap shit my father-in -law was drinking in the early 90's was pure swill.




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Here is an unusual piece of Scarab memorabilia. The Peter Hand Brewery produced a lot of promotional pieces with the race cars. One of the best is this lighted sign. It has a tinfoil covered wheel that when illuminated, it appears to pour beer into the glass. The two Meister Brau Scarabs were photographed at Meadowdale Raceway. I had heard about these and nearly wet myself when I finally found one at an antique mall.

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awesome story...Meister Brau must have been a better brew back in those days to have their livery on such a fine automobile. The cheap shit my father-in -law was drinking in the early 90's was pure swill.
The Heuer family lost control of the brewery just before 1970. I'm sure the product may not have stayed the same. Certainly the Miller stuff in the 90's would be far removed.

Although he is humbled by the level of interest in the cars today, Harry Heuer was quite the wild man back in the day. Young Harry borrowed money to fund the purchase of a Bocar sports car to race before the Scarabs became available. The bank ultimately got wind that "their" car was being raced and called Harry on the carpet. He went before the company board of directors, who refused to fund his race team. Harry twisted arms and finally got their support by threatening to sell his shares in the company to the NAACP for pennies a share. Knowing he was dead serious, the board caved and agreed to fund the race team.
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Warbird7-That sounds like Dutch! I used to hang out at his shop when he was in Woodland Hills/Calabassas and I gave him the gas tank for my Motorcycle to paint. I ask him to just do it in Silver with a single Black Stripe around the bottom edge.
Well,when I went to pic it up it had the black stripe but at the top rear was a very elaborate Pin Stripe pattern and when I ask him "Why" he pointed out where a very Small nat had landed in the paint and he didn't want to sand it down and start over so he did the elaborate Pin Striping to HIDE it. No Extra Charge! Boy I wish I still had that tank today!
Thanks for you experience and input on such a cool thread.

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This is a fantastic education on the cars I've enjoyed seeing at Laguna Seca so much for the last 15 years. So glad to see them on the HAMB. That, and you're all making me want to go trudge through another BS Levy book on the general era, although that takes a fair amount more willpower with each book in the series...
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they still use them... and quite succesfully.
that would explain the characteristic Duc rattle... never really expected to find an answer to _that_ question on the HAMB... Thanks guys
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We probably have crossed paths at the brat stand. I don't know Bluto, but I remember an older man, Bob Shaw who ran the Excaliburs. Is he the same guy?
Probably bought you a Brat and didn't even know it after the races... we were usually pretty wasted!

I know Bob Shaw and his Excalibur... wasn't him and I'll let "Bluto" introduce himself to you since he does love the anonymity of being a Road Racer on the HAMB!
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Always cool to see how many HAMBers inhabit this little corner of the hot rodding world. Big motors in chassis that handle have to be the ultimate for a lot of us. Basically, it's what CanAm was all about.
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The first racing application of desmodromic valve gear was in the Mercedes-Benz F1 cars of the mid-'50s, and they were extremely successful. I'm sure there were other, earlier uses, but the M-B engines undoubtedly inspired Lance to use the system.[/QUOTE]

just A little older than the mid 50's

Fully controlled valve movement was thought of in the earliest days of engine development, but devising a system that worked reliably and was not overly complex took a long time. Desmodromic valve systems are first mentioned in patents in 1896 by Gustav Mees, and in 1907 the Ariès is described as having a V4 engine with "desmodromique" valve actuation, but details are scarce. The 1914 Grand Prix Delage used a desmodromic valve system
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Hello Flatheadguy, you have got to be proud of your Uncle Warren Olsen, & Aunt Simone, they were much more then a major factor, they really ran the whole Scarab operation, Warren ran the shop, and hired & fired as needed, Simone did so much, she handled the books for the company, they both ran the Europe racing program, I sent them many photos to let me know who the people were, and recieved the names of almost everyone shown, a real class act, and nice people, that I have found so many over the years owning some of the very special cars & things over the years, and thanks so much to Ryan allowing me to show some of this history to all of you, as I do get a kick from the nice comments over the months, you all might be surprized how my family had to put up with because of my love for the automobile in any form, met some of the great drivers, and believe me, funds were not really there, but instead of buying a new Ford or Chev for 3 grand, I'd buy a used 300SL for that same amount, and my wife would go shopping, or deliver our daughter & son to school, and it was a thrill driving some of the great cars, and owning some great racing cars on a budget, was a lot of fun, and guess I should write a book one of these days, once I have the time, but who cares about a car guy who has owned a bunch of cars, and by the way all you guys I have found are very pure in your love of the history of the automotive world, so as long as you don't get bored, I'll try and get something interesting each month for all to enjoy, as I get more out of this then you get from reading and looking at the stuff I put out for all to see.
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